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Ranchoth
07-13-2014, 12:13 AM
Let me be clear, I don't begrudge Arnold Schwarzenegger for being an action star. He is a wonderful action star, and should rightly revel in it.

But still, for an art project of mine, and my own curiosity...has Arnie ever actually had a good touchy-feely, emotional, or "tearjerker" lines in a role of his?

(I'm pretty much abandoning all expectations of hearing about any heartwarming, gentle movie roles he might have had. As noted above, the man's not exactly "Field of Dreams" material.)

The closest I can think of is, naturally, the "I know now why you cry..." scene from Terminator 2. Brief and robotically subdued, but if that doesn't get you even a little, you have not even a heart of steel.

Aside from that, and maybe a couple of moments from the Conan films, I'm at a loss. But does anyone here more familiar with the Schwarzenegger oeuvre have any suggestions?

Bryan Ekers
07-13-2014, 12:16 AM
I think he gets a little misty when his family is killed in Collateral Damage but all I remember is the crazy-ass underground motorcycle chase.

Sage Rat
07-13-2014, 12:31 AM
I'm sure there's a few scenes where he acted like a real person in True Lies, Kindergarten Cop, and Twins but it's been too long since I've seen them to give an example.

Gray Ghost
07-13-2014, 12:55 AM
The bits in Twins where he realizes how much his brother means to him, were somewhat moving. Not Old Yeller or Burnt By The Sun, but not bad. It's been awhile though.

True Lies, for me, like all Bond movies, didn't affect me emotionally at all other than: this is really neat! The best Bond movie until Goldeneye, but really until the reboot, IMHO.

Mahaloth
07-13-2014, 01:13 AM
He gets pretty serious and has to act when he prays to God near the end of End of Days. He looks...like he is feeling something.

MeanJoe
07-13-2014, 09:12 AM
Dude... the look he gives Billy when they're making the run to the chopper in Predator? Billy decides to face the Predator so Arnie and the chick have more time to "get to da' choppa!" You can read the sorrow, respect, and gratitude in Arnie's head nod.

:D

The Other Waldo Pepper
07-13-2014, 09:18 AM
There is no greater display of sincerity imaginable than "Yah, but dey vere all bad."

In all seriousness, he does a passable gamut of emotions in KINDERGARTEN COP.

Ethilrist
07-13-2014, 09:37 AM
There is no greater display of sincerity imaginable than "Yah, but dey vere all bad."

In all seriousness, he does a passable gamut of emotions in KINDERGARTEN COP.

*collapses in bed* Dey vere horrible...

amarinth
07-13-2014, 09:38 AM
He falls in love with Emma Thompson in "Junior"

It's a really weird movie.

zoid
07-13-2014, 09:48 AM
There is no greater display of sincerity imaginable than "Yah, but dey vere all bad."

In all seriousness, he does a passable gamut of emotions in KINDERGARTEN COP.

It's not a toomah! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTO8_KNcuo)

cmyk
07-13-2014, 09:56 AM
There's that one scene in Jingle All the Way where... Umm... No...

Well, in Twins he, uh...

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say when you're an Austrian bodybuilder who's basically gargling his own testosterone, your emotional well might not be all that deep or close to the surface. So, that's a 'no' from me.

Hermione
07-13-2014, 10:02 AM
I, being among the minority who actually rather liked The Last Action Hero, was rather struck by the moment when Jack Slater realized he was a fictional movie hero. (In one of his movies, there was a rare Downer Ending when Jack failed to save his young son's life.)

He says something along the lines of, "How would you feel if you found out someone had made you up? Push your kid off a building, give you nightmares the rest of your life, but it doesn't count, you're only fictional?"

The Other Waldo Pepper
07-13-2014, 10:05 AM
Heh. I was thinking more of his 'roughing up the child abuser' scenes, and his 'bleeding out while being menaced by the villain at the end' scene, is all.

(Uh, in response to zoid.)

Bryan Ekers
07-13-2014, 11:08 AM
I, being among the minority who actually rather liked The Last Action Hero, was rather struck by the moment when Jack Slater realized he was a fictional movie hero. (In one of his movies, there was a rare Downer Ending when Jack failed to save his young son's life.)

He says something along the lines of, "How would you feel if you found out someone had made you up? Push your kid off a building, give you nightmares the rest of your life, but it doesn't count, you're only fictional?"

That movie had a lot of potential and some very funny bits about the absurdity of the action-movie premise. Personally, I think it was undermined by Austin O'Brien - spunky kid characters almost always gets on my nerves. I think if that character had himself been less of a cliché, the movie would have worked a lot better.

Miller
07-13-2014, 12:34 PM
That movie had a lot of potential and some very funny bits about the absurdity of the action-movie premise. Personally, I think it was undermined by Austin O'Brien - spunky kid characters almost always gets on my nerves. I think if that character had himself been less of a cliché, the movie would have worked a lot better.

Yeah, this. It was an amazingly fertile idea, and having Arnold himself in it was an amazing opportunity, but it was mostly squandered. One problem, I think, is that it was trying to parody the action hero genre, but seemed to shy away from parodying Schwartzenegger himself. Imagine if, at the end, the villain mistakes "real" Arnold for the movie character and goes after him - and Real Life Arnold just completely comes apart. On his knees, begging and blubbering. "Take my wife intead!" he says, shoving Maria in front of him, "She's almost as pretty as I am!"

Or, what if the premiere of Arnold's new Jack Slater movie was preceded by a short clip package showing all his iconic roles, and somehow the magic ticket gets loose in the theater then. As each Arnold role comes up on the screen, it steps out into the theater, and you end up with Jack, Arnold, Conan, and the Terminator all running around together at the film's climax.

drewtwo99
07-13-2014, 12:47 PM
I enjoyed Last Action Hero and found it to be a pretty good tongue-in-cheek action movie (wouldn't go so far as to call it a parody). His line about realizing that he's just a fictional character was actually pretty moving, and I remember how it impressed me when I saw it. His delivery of the line was pretty believable too. I don't know if it works as a standalone moment taken out of the context of the movie, but it probably does.

mbh
07-13-2014, 01:13 PM
I think if that character had himself been less of a cliché, the movie would have worked a lot better.

Still, the moment when he realizes the difference between "good guy" and "comic relief" is one of the funniest parts of the movie.

Lsura
07-13-2014, 01:22 PM
He falls in love with Emma Thompson in "Junior"

It's a really weird movie.

I think he cries in it too. But it's ok because he's pregnant.

Yeah, it's a weird movie.

aceplace57
07-13-2014, 01:25 PM
I vote for Twins. The movie's main point was the bonding of two brothers that had been raised separately. From what I recall Danny Devito was the hustler/con man? Arnold was the dim-witted, very strong, and trusting brother.

Granted, neither actor was exactly stretching that much. From what I recall, the two brothers bonded throughout the movie and it was convincing.

It says a lot that a broad comedy is the most emotion we've seen from Arnold. Danny Devito deserves a lot of credit for making it work. His strong acting gave Arnold something to connect with.

Miller
07-13-2014, 01:29 PM
I vote for Twins. The movie's main point was the bonding of two brothers that had been raised separately. From what I recall Danny Devito was the hustler/con man? Arnold was the dim-witted, very strong, and trusting brother.


Arnold's character had a genius-level IQ. The joke was that Arnold was genetically designed to be superior in every way, having the best of the genetics of all of his multiple parents. DeVito got what was left over.

aceplace57
07-13-2014, 02:18 PM
Thank you for the correction. I need to rewatch Twins. I've forgotten quite a bit of the story. It is a very good movie and worth seeing again.

Bryan Ekers
07-13-2014, 03:17 PM
The joke was that Arnold was genetically designed to be superior in every way, having the best of the genetics of all of his multiple parents.

I can sort-of buy into Schwarzenegger and DeVito being fraternal twins, but the pseudoscience of their conceptions always kind of annoyed me. You can mix sperm donations from as many men as you like in a large beaker, but that won't mix their genetics. It would be like pouring red marbles and blue marbles into a bag, shaking, and expecting to get purple marbles.

I know it's a light comedy, but a little effort put into the MacGuffin science would have made it more enjoyable for me.

Sage Rat
07-13-2014, 03:37 PM
It's not a toomah! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTO8_KNcuo)

That kid at 4 seconds looks like Jake Gyllenhaal.

Sage Rat
07-13-2014, 03:41 PM
I can sort-of buy into Schwarzenegger and DeVito being fraternal twins, but the pseudoscience of their conceptions always kind of annoyed me. You can mix sperm donations from as many men as you like in a large beaker, but that won't mix their genetics. It would be like pouring red marbles and blue marbles into a bag, shaking, and expecting to get purple marbles.

I know it's a light comedy, but a little effort put into the MacGuffin science would have made it more enjoyable for me.

I'm pretty sure the "beaker" was a multi-billion dollar super-science DNA mixer.

Shagnasty
07-13-2014, 03:42 PM
Arnold really loves his daughter (young Alyssa Milano) in Commando. It is probably his most over-the-top action movie of all but one of the main premises of it is that he just wants to be a good single parent to his little girl.

dracoi
07-13-2014, 04:06 PM
I can sort-of buy into Schwarzenegger and DeVito being fraternal twins, but the pseudoscience of their conceptions always kind of annoyed me. You can mix sperm donations from as many men as you like in a large beaker, but that won't mix their genetics. It would be like pouring red marbles and blue marbles into a bag, shaking, and expecting to get purple marbles.

I know it's a light comedy, but a little effort put into the MacGuffin science would have made it more enjoyable for me.

I think it's more that they were focusing on the idea that half of the DNA of a sperm combines with half the DNA from an ovum. We have two copies of each gene, and so, a child gets one copy from each parent. Normally, this is a random process.

So somebody was drunk/high and past-due for his latest script, so the thought "Wait! Maybe we're all normal Joes because we aren't picked the best from each parent? What if we made a super-person by controlling which gene gets picked, and picking the best half of each... and then used the leftovers to create his twin brother!"

While I agree with you to the extent that it's not entirely plausible that it would be done this way, it is quite possibly the best of the bad science ideas seen in Schwarzenegger movies. (I mean, compare that with male pregnancy, speed-of-light rail guns, instant Martian terraforming, high-tech aliens that only see heat, and time travel that only permits living tissue...)

Martin Hyde
07-13-2014, 04:28 PM
Time travel the permits machines as long as they are surrounded by living tissue, actually.

I think some of the scenes with young John Connor in T2 are touching, for what they are.

Dude... the look he gives Billy when they're making the run to the chopper in Predator? Billy decides to face the Predator so Arnie and the chick have more time to "get to da' choppa!" You can read the sorrow, respect, and gratitude in Arnie's head nod.

:D

Interestingly, Billy was actually originally supposed to have a good on screen fight with the Predator, and actually wound it, before his demise. However this didn't happen because of Sonny Landham, the actor that played Billy, and actually appeared in a lot of movies of this era anytime there was a casting call for "large, muscular Native American man" roles (he played basically the same guy in movies like 48 Hours, and various TV guest appearances.) Sonny apparently was/maybe still is a raging alcoholic, and was a disaster on set, to the point where he was almost coming to blows with several of the other actors. So they had to scrap that scene's filming to just get him the hell out of there so they wouldn't have to deal with him anymore, and the scene was lost to the ages.

garygnu
07-13-2014, 04:55 PM
I vote for Twins. The movie's main point was the bonding of two brothers that had been raised separately. From what I recall Danny Devito was the hustler/con man? Arnold was the dim-witted, very strong, and trusting brother.
...

Arnold's character had a genius-level IQ. The joke was that Arnold was genetically designed to be superior in every way, having the best of the genetics of all of his multiple parents. DeVito got what was left over.

Thank you for the correction. I need to rewatch Twins. I've forgotten quite a bit of the story. It is a very good movie and worth seeing again.
Arnold might have seemed dim-witted at times because his character was raised on an island and was very sheltered and naive. He had the immigrant experience to draw upon, and plays the eager country boy in the big city pretty well.

Loach
07-13-2014, 05:10 PM
You be the judge.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=znWCBpWFYPU

msmith537
07-13-2014, 05:29 PM
You be the judge.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=znWCBpWFYPU

Touching..:(

I know now why you cry...but it's something I can never do... (https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=114386601954413)

Oh..never mind...the OP already has that one!

zbuzz
07-13-2014, 06:11 PM
Another moment from Last Action Hero...

When Jack runs into Arnold at the movie premier, totally-upbeat-Planet-Hollywood-whoring Arnold is all, "Wow! You're the best look-a-like ever! Call my office and we can get you shopping mall openings and stuff!" and Jack is all, "You've brought me nothing but pain."

I couldn't find a clip online to refresh my memory, but IIRC, Jack delivers the line pretty poignantly.

MeanJoe
07-14-2014, 06:35 AM
Time travel the permits machines as long as they are surrounded by living tissue, actually.

I think some of the scenes with young John Connor in T2 are touching, for what they are.



Interestingly, Billy was actually originally supposed to have a good on screen fight with the Predator, and actually wound it, before his demise. However this didn't happen because of Sonny Landham, the actor that played Billy, and actually appeared in a lot of movies of this era anytime there was a casting call for "large, muscular Native American man" roles (he played basically the same guy in movies like 48 Hours, and various TV guest appearances.) Sonny apparently was/maybe still is a raging alcoholic, and was a disaster on set, to the point where he was almost coming to blows with several of the other actors. So they had to scrap that scene's filming to just get him the hell out of there so they wouldn't have to deal with him anymore, and the scene was lost to the ages.

That is interesting, I had no idea. Weirdly enough, Billy was probably my favorite character in the movie.

Raguleader
07-14-2014, 07:17 AM
I, being among the minority who actually rather liked The Last Action Hero, was rather struck by the moment when Jack Slater realized he was a fictional movie hero. (In one of his movies, there was a rare Downer Ending when Jack failed to save his young son's life.)

He says something along the lines of, "How would you feel if you found out someone had made you up? Push your kid off a building, give you nightmares the rest of your life, but it doesn't count, you're only fictional?"

From a google search and a transcript I found, the scene is thus:


How new and exciting this must all be for you. I have just found out I am imaginary. How would you like to have been made up? Your job, your marriage, your kids. Let us push his son off the building. You will have eternal nightmares, but you are fictional, so who cares?

I do not find it new and exciting that my whole life is a damn movie.

So yeah, another vote for Arnold is able to be emotional and touching. If you stop to think about any of his characters as real people, they all live really horrible lives.

Agent Foxtrot
07-14-2014, 08:26 AM
Was no one touched when the Terminator followed his directive to say good-bye and commit suicide at the end of T2? The slow descent into the crucible was heart-wrenching (of course, I was a very emotional little kid when I first saw it).

CandidGamera
07-14-2014, 08:29 AM
Yes, but they were all bad.

:D

PSXer
07-14-2014, 11:07 AM
T2 is the best of course

Gotta say Kindergarten Cop is his best human performance. Telling the class about his son and divorce.

Arnold knows the limits of his acting ability and doesn't try to take roles beyond it. Kindergarten Cop isn't that demanding but Arnold performs it with all the skill it requires.

Rodgers01
07-14-2014, 11:37 AM
I have no idea what move it's from but when Arnold says the line at 3:32 here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqSyQl3SCo8) he sounds so sincerely hurt that it makes me...laugh.

The closest I can think of is, naturally, the "I know now why you cry..." scene from Terminator 2. Brief and robotically subdued, but if that doesn't get you even a little, you have not even a heart of steel.

Okay, put me down for not-even-a-heart-of-steel. I wanted to throw something at the screen, I was so disgusted with what they'd done to the Terminator. Terrible movie!

blue infinity
07-14-2014, 01:00 PM
Another scene from Conan: The spring wind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fC34Yfi4ds).

Skald the Rhymer
07-14-2014, 01:03 PM
I'm sure there's a few scenes where he acted like a real person in True Lies, Kindergarten Cop, and Twins but it's been too long since I've seen them to give an example.

Kindergarten Cop was my first thought. There's a bit when he's talking to his police partner about his young son whom he hasn't seen in years because of a nasty divorce. Breaks my heart, it does.

Max Torque
07-14-2014, 01:09 PM
Crom! I have never prayed to you before....I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad....why we fought....how we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important. Valor pleases you, Crom. So grant me one request: grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to hell with you!

Bryan Ekers
07-14-2014, 01:09 PM
I have no idea what move it's from but when Arnold says the line at 3:32 here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqSyQl3SCo8) he sounds so sincerely hurt that it makes me...laugh.


You mean "You used to be somebody I could trust." ? It's from Predator. Arnold's character is directing the line to Carl Weathers, who is playing a CIA agent who lied to get Arnold's commando team to escort him into a warzone.

GargoyleWB
07-14-2014, 01:25 PM
Arnold really loves his daughter (young Alyssa Milano) in Commando. It is probably his most over-the-top action movie of all but one of the main premises of it is that he just wants to be a good single parent to his little girl.

This was my vote, it was perfect acting chemistry between those two and the father-daughter interaction was completely convincing.

gaffa
07-14-2014, 01:51 PM
Another moment from Last Action Hero...

When Jack runs into Arnold at the movie premier, totally-upbeat-Planet-Hollywood-whoring Arnold is all, "Wow! You're the best look-a-like ever! Call my office and we can get you shopping mall openings and stuff!" and Jack is all, "You've brought me nothing but pain."

I couldn't find a clip online to refresh my memory, but IIRC, Jack delivers the line pretty poignantly.
I loved that bit. I love the whole movie, and think it was his best role. "I've never just talked to a woman. It's nice." "Mom! You've turned him into a wimp!"

Jim's Son
07-14-2014, 07:33 PM
Arnold was very touching in "Commando" when he told Solly that he lied when he said he was going to kill him last. Has me all teary-eyed every week when I watch this classic.

OneCentStamp
07-14-2014, 07:43 PM
Arnold really loves his daughter (young Alyssa Milano) in Commando. It is probably his most over-the-top action movie of all but one of the main premises of it is that he just wants to be a good single parent to his little girl.

This was my vote, it was perfect acting chemistry between those two and the father-daughter interaction was completely convincing.

It's why his character in that movie is named John Matrix: it was a subtle announcement that, for the first time, he was going to be playing a role that wasn't one-dimensional.

yup, pulled that straight outta my ass.

Bryan Ekers
07-14-2014, 07:57 PM
It's why his character in that movie is named John Matrix: it was a subtle announcement that, for the first time, he was going to be playing a role that wasn't one-dimensional.

I thought it was because he was easily derivative.

OneCentStamp
07-14-2014, 07:58 PM
I thought it was because he was easily derivative.

*high five* :p

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