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Vashbul
11-24-2014, 03:29 AM
Just a little over a year ago a story that the FBI was looking for a man they called "John Doe 27" circulated in the national press. I read about it first in Slate (http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/11/13/most_wanted_chairs_the_fbi_wants_to_know_if_you_ve_seen_this_hideously_ugly.html).

A day or two later, the FBI released a statement that they knew who the man was, that an arrest warrant was imminent, and they extended their gratitude to the public for helping to ID him. And that was it. A Google search turns up nothing of substance on the case after Nov. 15, 2013. Was the man ever located? Arrested? Charged?

I wrote to the author of the Slate article; got no answer. Wrote to the Cleveland branch of the FBI, no reply.

How does one track the progress of a case like this?

Waterman
11-24-2014, 03:34 AM
Here is the followup:

http://www.kptv.com/story/22276502/john-doe-suspected-child-predator-caught-in-california

Waterman
11-24-2014, 03:42 AM
I see that the link I provided is to an arrest made in May 2013 whereas the John Doe 27 article is dated Nov 2013. I did find this link specifically to John Doe 27 but it does not provide any followup:

https://www.facebook.com/ACAAPERTH/posts/230652473768499

Sorry for the confusion

Vashbul
11-24-2014, 03:50 AM
Actually, the Slate article I linked to is pretty poor, playing the guy's choice of furniture for cheap laughs. You can see a more typical piece here (http://www.newson6.com/story/23946646/fbi-releases-photos-of-suspected-child-molester).

I'm rather surprised that the FBI made a big deal out of trumpeting their swift conclusion to this case. Except they forgot to add they didn't actually get him.

Vashbul
11-25-2014, 12:01 PM
I neglected to mention what this man did to make him a person of interest. Here's the wire service version:

WHO IS JOHN DOE #27? THE FBI WANTS TO CATCH THIS ALLEGED CHILD PREDATOR

The FBI is on the hunt to identify a man who is allegedly involved in sexually abusing a minor and child exploitation. Teams from the FBI located images of this man who they’ve dubbed, “John Doe 27” on the Internet.
If you take a close look, the suspect appears to be a white male, with brown hair and a bald spot. It looks like his sideburns are graying and the FBI says he’s between the ages of 40 and 50.

NBC San Diego says the suspect was first seen abusing a child in April 2013 and the images are being spread through child pornography forums online.
According to a press release on the FBI’s website, “Based on audio taken from video files associated with this individual, it appears as though he speaks with a southern accent and refers to himself as “Jimmy.” The suspect also has a ring on his right hand.
The space used to allegedly molest the child, you can see easily spot a plaid chair in the room, gray carpet, white walls and a table.

(Pictures can be seen at the link on my previous post. The guy looks like a creep, not to typecast or anything but - T. Bag from Prison Break.)

Isilder
11-25-2014, 05:05 PM
Just a little over a year ago a story that the FBI was looking for a man they called "John Doe 27" circulated in the national press. I read about it first in Slate (http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/11/13/most_wanted_chairs_the_fbi_wants_to_know_if_you_ve_seen_this_hideously_ugly.html).

A day or two later, the FBI released a statement that they knew who the man was, that an arrest warrant was imminent, and they extended their gratitude to the public for helping to ID him.


There's a false implication there.
"Photo of Ugly chair helps FBI crack case". NO.
They also provided photos, and a number of aliases... some of which may be an official name or close to it.

Anyway there can be reasons for the privacy on the case from that point, eg they implied he was the abuser, when actually he may have merely been set up by circumstances. Also, the FBI might be embarrassed that they were searching for someone already caught (eg by state authorities.)

Vashbul
11-25-2014, 11:48 PM
I didn't see any aliases, other than "he referred to himself as Jimmy, so that could be his name".

I suppose we could say that the news media were premature in accepting the FBI's last statement as some kind of closure. In any case there seems to have been no follow up, surprising for a story that got wide coverage. Or am I naive?

Finally, where does an interested, non-credentialed person go to get a status report on the whereabouts of someone they told us could be a menace?

Waterman
11-26-2014, 03:30 AM
...Finally, where does an interested, non-credentialed person go to get a status report on the whereabouts of someone they told us could be a menace?

In the US, one can simply access the registered sex offenders list for your neighborhood.

Vashbul
11-26-2014, 09:48 AM
Right, is there a list of uncaptured, unprosecuted fugitives that the FBI warned us about but then boldly declared were as good as nailed, and now hopes we'll forget they ever said that?

Isilder
11-26-2014, 08:05 PM
I didn't see any aliases, other than "he referred to himself as Jimmy, so that could be his name".


Oh there were on other web pages I looked at.

Well given your disbelief, I was prompted to do a search for those aliases and fbi, arrested, etc and I found they have arrested JOHNNY BENJAMIN NAPIER, owner of ugly chair.

Isilder
11-26-2014, 08:15 PM
One question was, "How to find out what happened with FBI cases like this ? ".

Well , its there on the fbi web site, most wanted, crimes against children.
See
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/@@wanted-group-scroll-view?selected-uid=e5c9e17e-e98d-4975-8c79-c8a478054baf

Vashbul
11-26-2014, 11:16 PM
Thank you for this.

The FBI link you provided shows a picture of Johnny Benjamin Napier, the word "CAPTURED" across the bottom. Interesting to note, the accompanying text mentions an alias, "Sean Denning", and a lot of other things known about him, but says nothing about when or where he was captured.

Googling "sean denning" "john doe 27" gets you to Websleuths, a forum for armchair detectives (well I guess I'm one too), where you learn that Denning=Napier (probably), but the man is called "John Doe 12" by the FBI, and the information released about him doesn't really match that released about #27. The dates are mostly earlier than Nov. 2013.

There are pictures of #12, and there's a definite resemblance but I'm not prepared to say they're a match, and the Websleuth posters aren't sure either - in particular, the CAPTURED shot of Napier looks older to me than the "T.Bag" picture I referenced above.

Googling "johnny benjamin napier" "john doe 27" gets you less, just the same Websleuths posting and some unrelated stuff.

And if you follow Websleuth's thread on #27, and a different one they made for #12, there's no definitive answer at all on whether or not he is in custody. (The amateur sleuths seem quite invested in solving this, so it's not like they lost interest.)

Odd, very odd.

Evilrising
05-02-2017, 04:03 PM
Truth about John Doe #27? Shoot me an email at [e-mail link removed]

Czarcasm
05-02-2017, 04:09 PM
Truth about John Doe #27? Shoot me an email at [e-mail link removed]How about you tell us here, instead.

engineer_comp_geek
05-02-2017, 04:31 PM
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buddha_david
05-02-2017, 05:33 PM
I want to see a picture of the ugly chair.


ETA: n/m, found it. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/11/13/most_wanted_chairs_the_fbi_wants_to_know_if_you_ve_seen_this_hideously_ugly.html)

Isilder
05-03-2017, 05:11 AM
"Email me " is clearly spammer/scammer posting there..

The final truth is this

Johnny Benjamin Napier CONT SEX ABUSE YOUNG CHILD 10/1/2008 sentencing date: 4/24/2015 . Sentence: 28 years
See https://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/johnny-benjamin-napier/901931/

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