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Acsenray
10-09-2017, 11:01 AM
I've been listening to the Faces' box set Five Guys Walk Into a Bar. I love their loose tinny combination of acoustic and electric guitars, piano, and organ. It feels very warm and cozy and like guys in a comfortable coffee shop or bar.

What else can I get that feel from? I've tried some automated recommendations, but I just get very obvious matches like the Rolling Stones, the Who, Van Morrison ... mostly stuff based on the era and the broad genre. Nothing with that particular sound or instrumental combination. And all that is stuff I'm already very well acquainted with.

Any ideas?

jaycat
10-09-2017, 11:30 AM
Great question, I'd like to know the answer myself.

You might try Ronnie Lane's solo stuff, for a start...

Made in Macau
10-09-2017, 11:38 AM
The Len Price 3 and The Standard Lamps are two current british bands who have a similar vibe. Both on Spotify here in the UK.

MiM

drad dog
10-09-2017, 11:48 AM
I've been listening to the Faces' box set Five Guys Walk Into a Bar. I love their loose tinny combination of acoustic and electric guitars, piano, and organ. It feels very warm and cozy and like guys in a comfortable coffee shop or bar.

What else can I get that feel from? I've tried some automated recommendations, but I just get very obvious matches like the Rolling Stones, the Who, Van Morrison ... mostly stuff based on the era and the broad genre. Nothing with that particular sound or instrumental combination. And all that is stuff I'm already very well acquainted with.

Any ideas?

Can't tell from this whether you have or like Rods solo LPs. The first 5 have this kind of music basically, and sometimes it's famously better.

You know the Sex Pistols sound had a lot of faces inspiration in it. What about those london bands who were around before punk like Cockney Rebel and that?

Have you tried Dave Edmunds and Rockpile?

jaycat
10-09-2017, 01:06 PM
The Len Price 3 ...

Sounds like Wreckless Eric.

journeyman_southpaw
10-09-2017, 01:50 PM
Try Elf, particularly the self-titled first album. Ronnie James Dio on lead vocals, but he wasn't doing the dungeons & dragons lyrics yet.

WordMan
10-09-2017, 01:54 PM
I love that collection. It's where I first heard their song 3-Button Hand Me Down which I absolutely love.

I am amazed at how Ronnie Wood sounds like a somewhat-more-lead oriented Keith Richards on Faces tracks. Him joining the Stones has always felt like a waste to me because it's two Keith's!!!

Acsenray
10-09-2017, 05:59 PM
You might try Ronnie Lane's solo stuff, for a start...

Any specific tracks or albums that are your favorites?

The Len Price 3 and The Standard Lamps are two current british bands who have a similar vibe. Both on Spotify here in the UK.

I will look for them.

Can't tell from this whether you have or like Rods solo LPs. The first 5 have this kind of music basically, and sometimes it's famously better.

I am well acquainted with Every Picture Tells a Story and some of the singles, but I'll check out the rest.

You know the Sex Pistols sound had a lot of faces inspiration in it. What about those london bands who were around before punk like Cockney Rebel and that?

Have you tried Dave Edmunds and Rockpile?

Do they actually sound like the or do they sound like the Sex Pistols? I don't want this playlist to have Sex Pistols-type stuff in it.

Any particular album or track I should start with?

Sounds like Wreckless Eric.

Any particular album or track I should start with?

Try Elf, particularly the self-titled first album. Ronnie James Dio on lead vocals, but he wasn't doing the dungeons & dragons lyrics yet.

I'll check it out. Thanks!

Mean Mr. Mustard
10-09-2017, 06:08 PM
I'm going to second the Dave Edmunds recommendation:

In particular:

Get it
Tracks on Wax 4
Repeat When Necessary


mmm

Acsenray
10-09-2017, 06:25 PM
I'm going to second the Dave Edmunds recommendation:

In particular:

Get it
Tracks on Wax 4
Repeat When Necessary


mmm

Thanks!

jaycat
10-09-2017, 07:00 PM
Ronnie Lane songs you might like: How Come, Annie, Don't Try'n Change My Mind, One For The Road, One Step... etc....

Re Wreckless Eric, I meant that I thought the Len Price 3 sounded like him. But you could check out his Big Smash record.

Shakester
10-10-2017, 03:34 AM
The Rolling Stones, obviously.

Primal Scream - Rocks (.com/watch?v=Z3ZCZjhjguA.com/watch?v=Z3ZCZjhjguA)

The Black Crowes - Remedy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Us14kEW0PM)

Shakester
10-10-2017, 03:43 AM
Primal Scream - Rocks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZCZjhjguA)

Broken link fixed.

Acsenray
10-10-2017, 07:18 AM
I'll note that I mentioned the Rolling Srines in my OP as one of the common suggestions that doesn't have what I like about the Faces. So I'm specifically not looking for a Stones sound.

TroutMan
10-10-2017, 07:41 AM
Supergrass (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2dqMaf4-w)?

Meurglys
10-10-2017, 07:59 AM
Ronnie Lane's a good choice, try his first solo album Anymore for Anymore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6fPRgdG-hM), which has some of the songs mentioned above onit.
Or for the pub rock feel, some early Dr. Feelgood maybe. Great clip from 1975 with 4 live songs here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzF0AETdRF8)

Acsenray
10-10-2017, 08:22 PM
I tried Len Price 3. Definitely has none of the warmth and coziness that makes me love the Faces. Totally stressed me out.

There's something about the Faces that makes it seem less loud and in-your-face than Supergrass. I recall reading something about how modern records are recorded at a uniform top level, or something like that. Maybe that's something that stresses me out in newer recordings.

(I wonder whether that feeling can be reproduced without that specific instrumentation: guitars, piano, and organ, all together, with the occasional harmonica.)

I listened to bits of the Dr. Feelgood concert. That feels a bit closer. Any album recommendations?

Acsenray
10-10-2017, 08:42 PM
Dave Edmunds didn't have what I was looking for either. It felt like super amped-up rockabilly and blues, cold with sharp edges, not warm and soft-focus like the Faces. That's also my complaint about the Rolling Stones. They're sharp, not soft.

drad dog
10-10-2017, 08:48 PM
You are in for a treat in the Rod Stewart catalog.

The first two LPs have a ton of classics, including gasoline alley, but are restrained.

Never a dull moment is superb. Smliler is where the formula got old. Then he became whatever we think of him now.

drad dog
10-10-2017, 08:56 PM
Dave Edmunds didn't have what I was looking for either. It felt like super amped-up rockabilly and blues, cold with sharp edges, not warm and soft-focus like the Faces. That's also my complaint about the Rolling Stones. They're sharp, not soft.

Ooooohhhh!

I got the perfect candidate that sums up this quest of yours. I don't know how you're going to feel about my answer, whether you have heard it already, or it will be new to you, but it's The Replacements: They were huge faces and Rod fans and they are just the greatest US band since...ever. Ever... No jive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Replacements_(band)

(There is a golden period for the 'mats that is legend: 1984 - 1987, Let it be, Tim. and Pleased to meet me.)

drad dog
10-10-2017, 09:02 PM
Great question, I'd like to know the answer myself.

You might try Ronnie Lane's solo stuff, for a start...

Ascenray:

Listen to this and tell me is this the epitome of your sound or not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsxnn6S-_NQ

Ronnie Lane and Pete Townshend My Baby Gives It Away

BTW what about the Who?

BTW: Aren't the Kinks better at this stuff than the OP anyway?

jaycat
10-10-2017, 09:12 PM
I think he wants keyboards.

I love the Kinks, but they don't sound like the Faces.

Acsenray
10-10-2017, 09:16 PM
So far I'm liking the Rod Stewart stuff. It fits perfectly.

I love the Who, but it's not the same sound. I'm well acquainted with Rough Mix. It sounds more like a Who album to me.

I'm adding the Replacements to the playlist.

JKellyMap
10-11-2017, 04:23 AM
The Grease Band, Let it be Gone (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2xGmw-qlNK8)

Meurglys
10-11-2017, 07:05 AM
/snip/ I listened to bits of the Dr. Feelgood concert. That feels a bit closer. Any album recommendations?
Has to be Stupidity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0bw79VI4-o). It's a live album of them at their peak, and was the first live album to reach #1 in the charts in the UK.

I saw them live at the Cambridge Corn Exchange in September 1976, after it had been recorded but before it was released, and they were incredible. One of the best gigs I've been to.

There's also a fun documentary about them called Oil City Confidential (trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CZMLs8Ke40))

Acsenray
10-11-2017, 07:18 AM
Okay, Grease Band and Feelgood going on the list.

Thudlow Boink
10-11-2017, 08:16 AM
I love the Kinks, but they don't sound like the Faces.Does something like "Berkeley Mews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiJIyl_bkns[/url)" come close at all?

Acsenray
10-11-2017, 08:35 AM
Does something like "Berkeley Mews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiJIyl_bkns[/url)" come close at all?

I like the Kinks, but to me they're very polished and precise and cerebral, as opposed to loose and emotional, which is what I hear in the Faces.

Acsenray
10-11-2017, 08:48 AM
Elf is sounding pretty good so far.

Acsenray
10-12-2017, 07:00 PM
I just heard "30 Days in the Hole" by Humble Pie. This sounds promising.

Meurglys
10-13-2017, 06:10 AM
I assume you've listened to some Small Faces stuff - Marriott left them and formed Humble Pie and the others morphed into the Faces with Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood joining them from the Jeff Beck Group... ( in the US they still used the name Small Faces initially)
Anyway, here's Itchycoo Park (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14ViwvgtvbA), probably their best known song.

WordMan
10-13-2017, 07:13 AM
I just heard "30 Days in the Hole" by Humble Pie. This sounds promising.

Try Somebody Get Me a Doctor.

blondebear
10-13-2017, 12:15 PM
Try Somebody Get Me a Doctor.Or maybe even I Don't Need No Doctor
(https://youtu.be/zWA6SOzHeCQ)

drad dog
10-13-2017, 12:34 PM
Or maybe even I Don't Need No Doctor
(https://youtu.be/zWA6SOzHeCQ)

My fave is "I went to the Dr but it turned out I was OK. Phew"

WordMan
10-13-2017, 01:44 PM
Or maybe even I Don't Need No Doctor
(https://youtu.be/zWA6SOzHeCQ)

Dammit. :smack: Thank you.

Note to self: Steve Marriott was not in Van Halen.

up_the_junction
10-13-2017, 01:54 PM
I just heard "30 Days in the Hole" by Humble Pie. This sounds promising.
Think Steve Marriott: Small Faces > Humble Pie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Marriott


Dr Feelgood is also a good shout. A cope of decent pieces by Brinsley Schwarz/Nick Lowe, Ian Dury/Blockheads when they were Kilburn and the High Roads - a lot of early Stiff records is worth a punt. Perhaps bits of Graham Parker and the Rumour ..

Jonathan Chance
10-13-2017, 02:00 PM
What about early Slade? In the end, the Faces were a blues-based English pub-band. Slade would be a bit harder edged - and more glamily dressed - but if there was ever a pub band that punched above their weight it would be Slade.

Try the LP Old, New, Borrowed and Blue from 1974.

up_the_junction
10-13-2017, 02:01 PM
Steve Marriott here >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rcuVamuGo8

Proper east London working class punchup, sorry gig.

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