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bump 08-30-2019 10:04 AM

Fox News "isn't working for us anymore" sayeth Trump (?!?)
 
So recently, the president said "Fox News isn't working for us anymore", based on their coverage recently. This started a controversy involving Fox News, where they're apparently very irritated saying they don't work for him, etc...

Anyone else find this hilarious? Both that Trump thinks that Fox isn't doing enough for him, and that the Fox people think that they're somehow independent?

It seems so absurd that it should be the tagline on the Onion, or a skit on a sketch comedy show to me.

https://people.com/politics/brit-hum...-work-for-you/
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/29/fox...-work-for-you/

HMS Irruncible 08-30-2019 10:24 AM

Trump watches Fox News for hours a day to get his marching orders and performance feedback, but he thinks he's calling the shots. Bless his pudgy orange heart.

QuickSilver 08-30-2019 10:40 AM

Whatever small independence Fox news has exhibited will fold to the pressure of the MAGA cult. I fully expect they will be brought in line as loyal Trump propagandists that they are.

bobot 08-30-2019 10:48 AM

It's funny because there used to be just the thinnest layer of plausible deniability about it. It's like telling a cop that you couldn't walk a straight line even if you were sober! On the bright side, people that leave the administration certainly have no trouble working for Faux. (And vice versa, naturally.)

Czarcasm 08-30-2019 11:07 AM

This is "Our pet rabid dingo bit us in the ass!" funny.

Exapno Mapcase 08-30-2019 11:29 AM

Nah, this is just "working the refs." The more he derides them for the slightest bit of even-handedness, the more pressure they'll be under to drop it like a hot potato.

Trump's competent in only one thing, but he's really good as a bully.

FlikTheBlue 08-30-2019 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exapno Mapcase (Post 21833546)
Nah, this is just "working the refs." The more he derides them for the slightest bit of even-handedness, the more pressure they'll be under to drop it like a hot potato.

Trump's competent in only one thing, but he's really good as a bully.

Hes so skilled at being a bully that he was the inspiration for Biff Tannen from the Back To The Future movies.

Wesley Clark 08-30-2019 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMS Irruncible (Post 21833431)
Trump watches Fox News for hours a day to get his marching orders and performance feedback, but he thinks he's calling the shots. Bless his pudgy orange heart.

Yeah the organization seems to be

rich ideological zealots -> media echo chambers -> republican politicians and voters

Part of me wonders if Trump's trade war dropping the dow was somehow related to this. Did Trump finally piss off the rich who truly run the GOP and their media propaganda outlets?

Exapno Mapcase 08-30-2019 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Clark (Post 21833768)
Yeah the organization seems to be

rich ideological zealots -> media echo chambers -> republican politicians and voters

Part of me wonders if Trump's trade war dropping the dow was somehow related to this. Did Trump finally piss off the rich who truly run the GOP and their media propaganda outlets?

Perhaps the other way round. He claimed to have spoken to the Chinese, a claim they quickly refuted. According to an article I found (and then lost) online it was a pure fabrication intended to boost the Dow back up. Did he really think that would work?

Of course he did. What am I saying?

tomndebb 08-30-2019 04:41 PM

Moderating
 
Before I chuck this thread into The BBQ Pit with all things Trumpian, could the OP construct an actual thesis for debate?

Kent Clark 08-30-2019 09:49 PM

What everyone (especially Donald Trump) seems to forget is that Fox News was around before Trump, and Fox News intends to be around after 2021, or 2025, or whenever the current resident finally is dragged from the White House.

Trump probably thinks he's responsible for Fox News' success. He's wrong. If anything, Fox News is responsible for Trump's success, and Trump better remember that.

Typo Negative 09-03-2019 11:06 AM

Conservatives need to understand that that eventually, Trump turns on everyone. If he hasn't turned on you, it just means he hasn't got around to you yet.

BobLibDem 09-03-2019 01:42 PM

Far be it for me to defend Donald, but in general the network's purpose is to promote the Republican Party. He sees their mentioning of negative polls as being contrary to their electoral prospects and thinks they're being disloyal. Like most Fox viewers, he expects to see news that reinforce his preconceptions and doesn't understand that the desired reality differs from objective reality.

septimus 09-06-2019 03:11 AM

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith seems to have turned against the Commander-in-Chief; he has called attention to Trump-tweets that aren't quite true.

Fiveyearlurker 09-06-2019 07:01 AM

And John Roberts was summoned into the Oval office to make sure the state news network gets back in line.

"Fox News senior White House correspondent John Roberts had just finished his 3 p.m. live shot on Thursday when President Donald Trump beckoned him into the Oval Office.
The President had one argument to make, according to an internal Fox email Roberts sent about the meeting provided to CNN."

"A White House aide familiar with the Oval Office meeting with Roberts said that Trump also voiced his displeasure about Fox News anchor Shepard Smith's skeptical reporting about the Alabama map.

The President summoned Roberts "to hit back at Shepard Smith," the White House aide said."


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