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phungi 12-02-2017 08:44 AM

Celebrity Death Pool 2018
 
phungi (aka: the Death Shroom) checking in as your 2018 Death Pool chaperone. While I may only be a place-holder for Baker (aka: the Death Mistress), it remains an honor.

In case anyone is new to this game, the rules are outlined below. There are a few new rules so read carefully.

The Rules:
  1. You pick 13 celebrities (plus 3 alternates) that you predict will die in the year 2018. If any of your celebrities dies, you score 100 points minus their age at death. Whoever has the most points at the end of the year...wins. It's rather simple.

    Please check the spelling if your celebrity's names, as editing takes hours. Also, please do not put spaces between abbreviated letters.

    For example: "George H.W. Bush" instead of George H. W. Bush"

  2. All picks must be made by December 31st, 2017, at 11:59PM, CENTRAL TIME. Late entries (i.e., ANY time after midnight of Jan 1st) will be turned away.

  3. Valid picks CANNOT be:

    a. already dead
    b. fictional
    d. under age 18
    e. a registered member of the SDMB
    f. hostages held by terrorist organizations
    g. famous solely as a result of their illness or the events surrounding their death (see #14 below)

  4. If you have any questions about who is or is not a celebrity, feel free to post to the thread or PM me. This is why we include 3 alternates, so if a pick is designated to be invalid, your first alternate will be elevated to your list.

  5. If we are uncertain about the celebrity's age at death, we will go by the higher age (lower score).

  6. Prisoners held on death row count only if they die by means other than official execution.

  7. If you kill anyone on your list to try to get ahead or cheat, then you're automatically disqualified.

  8. Editing your choices: You can change the people on your list as many times as you wish before the deadline above, just make sure that your FINAL list is known, otherwise I'm going to take the first 13 of yours I see listed.

  9. Alternates are important, in the case of a pick being invalid, or a pick dying prior to January 1st.

  10. If a player changes their username at some point, post this news on the thread, or PM me, so I know who you are.

  11. Tracking celebrity deaths is the job of each individual player. Wiki maintains a page of deaths each month, and is an excellent reference.

  12. I create and share a Scorekeeper in the form of an Excel Spreadsheet. I am happy to share this with any and all participants. I generally post to a DropBox folder, and update it after every death. If you do not have DropBox, sign up (it is free).

  13. We are instituting a new "secret posting" of picks this year, through this Google Form (all thanks to Mahaloth). Should you not want to publicly post your list prior to Jan 1, you can post through the Form, and your picks will be posted publicly by me (phungi) after Jan 1.

  14. Determination of who is a celebrity will remain a subjective matter, but generally defined as "the person has some known presence in the form of a Wikipedia Page and/or notoriety in the news or such" and their fame or celebrity cannot be based solely on their having a terminal illness". Sole possession of a Wikipedia page will not constitute "celebrity". If questioned, the person who posted that individual may be required provide such evidence.

    Questions may be raised about the appropriateness of a pick at any point after a list is posted, even after 1/1/18. Alternates picks play an important role, as "questionable" picks may be disqualified post-posting.

  15. Themed lists will be submitted and tracked through a separate thread/pool, linked here.

  16. There is no exchange of money, that would be in poor taste. Rather, each year, we share the following awards:
    • The "Opening Kickoff" Award: awarded to the poster or posters who pick the first listed celebrity to die in 2018.
    • The "Quantity Not Quality" Award: awarded to the poster or posters who pick the greatest number of celebrities who died, regardless of their actual point value.
    • The "Grim Reaper" Award: awarded to the poster or posters who had the most unique picks that died.
    • The "Robbing the Cradle" Award: awarded to the poster or posters who pick the youngest celebrity to die in 2018, but see rule 3d.
    • The "Final Hours" Award: awarded to the poster or posters who pick the last listed celebrity to die in 2018.

  17. You need to submit a clean list, with no explanations, dates of birth, titles, etc. If you want to add commentary, include this below your clean list.


    For example:

    Clean list:
    Chuck Barris
    Pope Benedict XVI
    Ashleigh Brilliant
    Don Cannon
    Joe DeNardo
    Murray Langston
    Tom Lehrer
    Agafia Lykov
    Katherine MacGregor
    Bill Mazeroski
    Art Rooney II
    Dan Rooney
    Bobby Vinton

    Alternates:
    Iris Apfel
    Anita Bryant
    Hugh Hefner

    Annotated list:
    Chuck Barris (host of “The Gong Show”)
    Pope Benedict XVI
    Ashleigh Brilliant (author & cartoonist)
    Don Cannon (former news anchor at WTAE & KDKA)
    Joe DeNardo (meteorologist at KDKA)
    Murray Langston (a/k/a “The Unknown Comic”)
    Tom Lehrer (composer & singer & mathematician)
    Bill Mazeroski (1960s Pittsburgh Pirate player)
    Agafia Lykov (Siberian hermit)
    Katherine MacGregor (actress - Mrs. Oleson in Little House on the Prairie)
    Art Rooney II (President, Pittsburgh Steelers)
    Dan Rooney (former U.S. Ambassador to Ireland)
    Bobby Vinton (singer)

    Iris Apfel (fashion icon)
    Anita Bryant
    Hugh Hefner

  18. Scoring: When a celebrity dies, you get their age at death subtracted from 100. All celebrities who are 100 or over count, but you get "0" Points for their death, contributing to the "Quantity not Quality" award.
If anyone has any questions, post to the thread, or PM me.

Here is the thread for the 2017 Death Pool

Have fun, everyone. Good luck!

phungi 12-02-2017 08:51 AM

Missed the EDIT window. The link to the THEMED pool is here

Annie-Xmas 12-02-2017 10:04 AM

Since is this probably the only year this list will be valid:

Jimmy Carter
Rosalyn Carter
Nancy Reagen
George H.W. Bush
Barbara Bush
Bill Clinton
Hillary Clington
George W. Bush
Laura Bush
Barack Obama
Michelle Obama
Donald Trump
Melania Trump

Alternates:
Ivana Trump
Marla Trump
Mike Pence

RivkahChaya 12-02-2017 10:11 AM

Nancy Reagan died in 2016.

Wallet 12-02-2017 10:13 AM

Death Pool 2018 ( I am only submitting this one list, in case TPTB decide to have a separate thread for Themes - so please just accept this as my regular list))

Theme: Evil and its Minions (IMHO)
* Donald Trump - orange hued evil incarnate
* Mike Pence - evangelical hypocritical bobble-head
* Steve Mnuchin - grandmother evicting , money fondling Treasury Secretary
* Jeff Sessions - evil Keebler Elf
* Ryan Zinke - killing our environment as Interior Secretary
* Rick Perry - "It's three agencies of government when I get there that are gone:
commerce, education, and the uh ... what's the third one, there? Let's see." He
went on to say: "The third one. I can't." He made it worse by adding: "Oops."
Fifteen minutes later he attempted to undo the damage, saying: "By the way
that was the department of energy I was reaching for a while ago." Yes, he's
the Secretary of Energy.
* Betsy DeVos - paid for position of Secretary of Education
* Scott Pruit - heads EPA, serving the fossil-fuel industry since 2017
* Mick Mulvaney - Budget Director who says Meals on Wheels doesn't work; fighting
climate change is a rip-off; After School programs have no effect on
performance
* Sarah Huckabee Sanders - a "serial congenital liar" who buries the American
people"in an avalanche of horseshit" (Rick Wilson)
* Steve Bannon - evil enabler, puppet master
* Kim Jong-un - Supreme Leader of North Korea, and just as deranged as our own
Dear Leader
* Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - putative leader of ISIS (and still not dead)

Alternates:
* Vladimir Putin - President of Russia, top puppeteer
* Dick Cheney - throwback to when evil was just heartless, and didn't include nuclear
annihilation

Plain List:

Donald Trump
Mike Pence
Steve Mnuchin
Jeff Sessions
Ryan Zinke
Rick Perry
Betsy DeVos
Scott Pruitt
Mick Mulvaney
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Steve Bannon
Kim Jong-un
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Alternates:
Vladimir Putin
Dick Cheney

phungi 12-02-2017 10:32 AM

These both appear to be themed lists, please clarify...

Loach 12-02-2017 11:53 AM

If one were to have only a themed list should they submit the same list to both threads?

Czarcasm 12-02-2017 12:02 PM

Same as last year:

Harlan Ellison
Meat Loaf
Jimmy Carter
Rosalynn Carter
The Amazing Johnathan
Pat Boone
Pat Robertson
Joe Piscopo
John Rhys-Davies
Hal Holbrook
Donald Trump
Larry Flynt
James Randi
Alternates:
Mary-Kate Olsen
Ashley Olsen
Dan Rather

Wallet 12-02-2017 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phungi (Post 20638566)
These both appear to be themed lists, please clarify...

I was unsure of the rules about the two games - one themed, one not. In the original thread about proposed rule changes, it said,
- All Dopers may submit two separate lists: a "Normal" list, and a "Themed" list
No celebrity can be in both of the lists submitted by a single player
The Themed List must have a name different than the 'Doper's SDMB profile name
There will be a separate "award" for "Highest Ranked Themed List", but In the unlikely event that a Themed List has the most total points, the 'Doper could win the "Quality Award" as well.


In the actual thread, it now says:
15: Themed lists will be submitted and tracked through a separate thread/pool, linked here.

Questions: Will anyone actually be looking at the second themed thread, or will most "action" be in the main thread? What if a celebrity passes - will posters have to post it in both threads, in case the dead person is on a themed list? Do we need to have a sock to submit a themed list? ("The Themed List must have a name different than the 'Doper's SDMB profile name")

I think the themed thread might fall by the wayside - that's why I decided to make my "themed" list just a plain one.

Annie-Xmas 12-02-2017 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RivkahChaya (Post 20638538)
Nancy Reagan died in 2016.

Whoops. I'm going to repost my list in the theme list thread.

kayT 12-02-2017 12:44 PM

I don't know about everyone else, Wallet, but I'll be checking the Themed Pool even tho I don't intend to submit a themed list. I like seeing what all the smart alecs Dopers have to say.

phungi 12-02-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallet (Post 20638718)
I was unsure of the rules about the two games - one themed, one not. In the original thread about proposed rule changes, it said,
- All Dopers may submit two separate lists: a "Normal" list, and a "Themed" list
No celebrity can be in both of the lists submitted by a single player
The Themed List must have a name different than the 'Doper's SDMB profile name
There will be a separate "award" for "Highest Ranked Themed List", but In the unlikely event that a Themed List has the most total points, the 'Doper could win the "Quality Award" as well.


In the actual thread, it now says:
15: Themed lists will be submitted and tracked through a separate thread/pool, linked here.

Questions: Will anyone actually be looking at the second themed thread, or will most "action" be in the main thread? What if a celebrity passes - will posters have to post it in both threads, in case the dead person is on a themed list? Do we need to have a sock to submit a themed list? ("The Themed List must have a name different than the 'Doper's SDMB profile name")

I think the themed thread might fall by the wayside - that's why I decided to make my "themed" list just a plain one.

There was support for a separate thread, so there is a separate thread, but no specified rule in the "Rules" (the discussion is just that) that a celeb cannot be on both lists. If you can figure out a way to double-dip, have at it. I will be following, tracking, and cross-posting relevant deaths. Think of it as a "trial year"

Wallet 12-02-2017 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phungi (Post 20638927)
There was support for a separate thread, so there is a separate thread, but no specified rule in the "Rules" (the discussion is just that) that a celeb cannot be on both lists. If you can figure out a way to double-dip, have at it. I will be following, tracking, and cross-posting relevant deaths. Think of it as a "trial year"

I actually liked the old method, where if a list was themed it would show the poster with an asterisk by his/her name. My fault for not giving my two cents in your other thread.

So, just want to clarify - we can have two lists, with discrete names - one themed, one not. You'll keep track of the two separate scoring spreadsheets, and post accordingly in each thread. Is this correct?

Thanks.

Dancer_Flight 12-02-2017 08:55 PM

Prince Philip
Betty White
Stan Lee
Jimmy Carter
George H.W. Bush
Angela Lansbury
Sean Connery
Robert Duvall
John McCain
Jean Chretien
Wilford Brimley
King Salman of Saudi Arabia
Loretta Swit

Alternates:
Morgan Freeman
Jack Nicholson
50 Cent (Curtis James Jackson III)


I already lost one of my original picks last month, let's see if the rest of them stick around.

-DF

RTFirefly 12-03-2017 01:08 PM

Looks like I can re-use most of my list from last year. Maybe they'll get al-Baghdadi in 2018.

kopek 12-03-2017 04:50 PM

I feel terribly honored to be sleeping next to greatness.

Dethshroom used the wife's list from last year as the example in the rules

kopek 12-03-2017 04:51 PM

William Holly Johnson
Michael C. Hall
Michael J. Fox
Dick Dale
Mel Brooks
Max Gail
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr.
Tom Brokaw
Tracee Talavera
Cloris Leachman
Jimmy Carter
Yoko Ono
Carol Arthur


Alternates:
Valerie Harper
Kenny Rogers
Betty White

Mona Lott 12-03-2017 07:48 PM

Petula Clark
Diana Ross
Dionne Warwick
Donald Trump
Tony Danza
Valerie Harper
Burt Reynolds
Loni Anderson
Keith Richards
Alan Alda
Raul Labrador
James Risch
Mike Crapo

Pete Rose
Aretha Franklin
Loretta Lynn

carnivorousplant 12-03-2017 08:04 PM

"Questions may be raised about the appropriateness of a pick at any point after a list is posted, even after 1/1/18. Alternates picks play an important role, as "questionable" picks may be disqualified post-posting."

Come on now, questioning after 1/1/18 ain't fair.

kayT 12-03-2017 08:13 PM

Come on now, this is the Dope. We never stop quibbling questioning.

swampbear 12-03-2017 08:17 PM

I have killed off one celebrity each year for the last two years. I'm on a spree! My 2018 list, one of which shall die.

Cher
David Hasselhoff
Jonathan Rhys Meyers
Michael Douglas
Penny Marshall
Courtney Love
Charlie Sheen
Pamela Anderson
Lady Gaga
Lindsay Lohan
Miley Cyrus
Toni Braxton
Billy Joel

Alternates:
Alex Trebec
Michael J. Fox

Loach 12-04-2017 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant (Post 20641335)
"Questions may be raised about the appropriateness of a pick at any point after a list is posted, even after 1/1/18. Alternates picks play an important role, as "questionable" picks may be disqualified post-posting."

Come on now, questioning after 1/1/18 ain't fair.

If you post at 11:58 on 12/31/17 then someone has 2 minutes to question your pick?

carnivorousplant 12-04-2017 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loach (Post 20641764)
If you post at 11:58 on 12/31/17 then someone has 2 minutes to question your pick?

That's why I post earlier.

phungi 12-04-2017 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant (Post 20641335)
"Questions may be raised about the appropriateness of a pick at any point after a list is posted, even after 1/1/18. Alternates picks play an important role, as "questionable" picks may be disqualified post-posting."

Come on now, questioning after 1/1/18 ain't fair.

Some might say the same about questioning the rules after Dec 1... Given that there is no entry fee, and nothing on the line other than pride and prognosticating prowess, if someone wants to "sneak in" a last-minute non-Celeb, these rules allow them to be questioned. The poster may provide justification, so there is no pre-determined outcome.

kopek 12-04-2017 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swampbear (Post 20641356)
I have killed off one celebrity each year for the last two years. I'm on a spree! My 2018 list, one of which shall die.

And that darn Old Wench is killing them off at a higher rate than both of us. We should be very ashamed. :o



:D

Labtrash 12-04-2017 12:00 PM

Here we go again...

Gary Busey
Bob Newhart
Ben Jones
Peter Noone
Stephen Hawking
Ashley Olsen
Nick Nolte
Tommy Chong
Jimmy Carter
Ed Asner
George HW Bush
Kenny Rogers
Prince Phillip

Alternates
Henry Kissenger
Henry Winkler

notfrommensa 12-04-2017 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant (Post 20641335)
"Questions may be raised about the appropriateness of a pick at any point after a list is posted, even after 1/1/18. Alternates picks play an important role, as "questionable" picks may be disqualified post-posting."

Come on now, questioning after 1/1/18 ain't fair.

Hard to quibble before 1/1/18 when they post at 11:58 pm on 12/31/2018.

Never mind...I didn't scroll down far enough for the replies/

Happy Lendervedder 12-04-2017 01:22 PM

Would it be possible for the Death Shroom to occasionally post a list of names of Dopers who have submitted their secret post list via the Google form? That way those of us that have submitted can rest assured that our list has been received. And if our name doesn't show up in the list of submitted, we'll have time to re-submit before Jan. 1.

phungi 12-04-2017 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Lendervedder (Post 20642638)
Would it be possible for the Death Shroom to occasionally post a list of names of Dopers who have submitted their secret post list via the Google form? That way those of us that have submitted can rest assured that our list has been received. And if our name doesn't show up in the list of submitted, we'll have time to re-submit before Jan. 1.

Great idea, thanks!

As of 12/4/17, Lists received from:
Lancia
Happy Lendervedder
picker

Andrew 21 12-05-2017 06:43 PM

Robert Morgenthau
George H.W. Bush
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
John McCain
Tommy Chong
Lou Brock
Valerie Harper
Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin
Pak Yong-sik
Pedro Guerrero
Vivian Campbell
Evan Mawarire
Kim Jong Un

Alternates:
Robert Mugabe
Cher
Olivia Newton-John

Robert Morgenthau - (July 31, 1919)
George H.W. Bush - (June 12, 1924)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg - (March 15, 1933)
John McCain - (August 29, 1936)
Tommy Chong - (May 24, 1938)
Lou Brock - (June 18, 1939)
Valerie Harper - (August 22, 1939)
Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin aka H. Rap Brown - (October 4, 1943)
Pak Yong-sik - (1950)
Pedro Guerrero - (June 29, 1956)
Vivian Campbell - (August 25, 1962)
Evan Mawarire - (1977)
Kim Jong Un - (January 8, 1984)

Alternates:
Robert Mugabe - (February 21, 1924)
Cher - (May 20, 1946)
Olivia Newton-John - (September 26, 1948)

Clothahump 12-05-2017 10:49 PM

Here we go again.

George H. W. Bush
Barbara Bush
Lindsay Lohan
Queen Elizabeth
Hillary Clinton
Jimmy Carter
Al Gore
Angela Lansbury
Dick Van Dyke
Miley Cyrus
Judi Dench
William Shatner
Charles Osgood

Alternates
Pope Francis
Vladimir Putin
Willie Nelson

meghan 12-06-2017 02:36 PM

Keith Richards
Bill Clinton
MaryKate Olsen
Lance Armstrong
Vladimir Putin
Dick Cheney
Bernie Madoff
Lindsey Lohan
Steve Bannon
Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi
Kate Gosselin
Russell Brand
Justin Bieber

Alternates:

Pat Boone
Billy Graham
Hillary Clinton

Ponch8 12-07-2017 10:06 AM

Here is my list. It is mostly the same as 2017's list, with a few changes (I've added more fuckasses whom I want to die and removed some run-of-the-mill celebrities. No one on my 2017 list has died so far this year.) Hopefully the first ten on my list will all die in 2018.

Dr. Luke
Donald Trump
Bashar Assad
Justin Bieber
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
Pat Robertson
Kim Kardashian
Hassan Nasrallah
Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi
Steve Bannon
Joe Namath
Pete Rose
Little Richard

Alternates:

James Taylor
Bob Seger

phungi 12-07-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponch8 (Post 20648928)
Here is my list. It is mostly the same as 2017's list, with a few changes (I've added more fuckasses whom I want to die and removed some run-of-the-mill celebrities. No one on my 2017 list has died so far this year.) Hopefully the first ten on my list will all die in 2018.

Dr. Luke

Can you confirm that Dr. Luke is this guy?

Ponch8 12-07-2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phungi (Post 20649151)
Can you confirm that Dr. Luke is this guy?

Correct.

Little Nemo 12-07-2017 01:16 PM

main list:
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
George H.W. Bush
Vivian Campbell
Tommy Chong
Shannon Doherty
Leo Gallagher
Steve Gleason
Valerie Harper
Val Kilmer
Devin Lima
Morrissey
Jerry Sandusky
Ken Watanabe

alternates:
Tamim bin Hamad
Hosni Mubarak
Tila Tequila

carnivorousplant 12-07-2017 01:46 PM

I have Shannon Doherty this year. I believe that she is in remission.

Stephe96 12-07-2017 03:34 PM

Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Burt Reynolds
Gene Hackman
David Geffen
Valerie Harper
Stan Lee
Stephen King
Tina Turner
Aretha Franklin
Val Kilmer
John McCain
Penny Marshall
Art Garfunkel

Alternates:

Matt Lauer
Steven Spielberg
Madonna

Loach 12-07-2017 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant (Post 20649546)
I have Shannon Doherty this year. I believe that she is in remission.

I have multiple remarkable recoveries on my list.

carnivorousplant 12-07-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loach (Post 20649878)
I have multiple remarkable recoveries on my list.

I expect some of mine to come back to life.
We should sell insurance.

melondeca 12-07-2017 07:51 PM

1. Devin Lima
2. Leah Bracknell
3. Ronnie Wood
4. Brian Patrick Carroll
5. Valerie Harper
6. Vivian Campbell
7. Beth Chapman
8. Oleg Cricket
9. Steven Patrick Morrissey
10. Nobby Stiles
11. Pat Robertson
12. Corey Feldman
13. Nichelle Nichols

Alternates:
1. Jimmy Carter
2. Tom Brokaw
3. Harvey Weinstein

GuanoLad 12-08-2017 04:47 AM

I'll submit mine in a couple of weeks. Considering a theme of Brits, but probably will just use last year's, with a couple of new ones substituting for my winning choices.

boffking 12-08-2017 12:54 PM

Paul Lepage
Eddie Lampert
Prince Phillip
Orrin Hatch
Jaromir Jagr
Damien Hess aka MC Frontalot
Justin Bieber
Hugh Jackman
George H. W. Bush
Steven King
Jeff Bezos
Bashar Al Assad
Stan Lee

phungi 12-08-2017 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boffking (Post 20651899)
Paul Lepage
Eddie Lampert
Prince Phillip
Orrin Hatch
Jaromir Jagr
Damien Hess aka MC Frontalot
Justin Bieber
Hugh Jackman
George H. W. Bush
Steven King
Jeff Bezos
Bashar Al Assad
Stan Lee

You get to pick 3 alternates...

Gatopescado 12-08-2017 08:47 PM

Ah, what the hell. I'll make sure these people are safe another year....

Prince Phillip
Johnny Knoxville
Queen Elizabeth
Charlie Sheen
Steve-O
Travis Pastrana
Bam Margera
Andy Bell
Josh Todd
Bombshell McGee
Danny Bonaduce
Michael Schumacher
Max Verstappen

Again, a perverse pleasure in sandwiching the Queen between Knoxville and Sheen. :D

carnivorousplant 12-08-2017 10:07 PM

If we PM or email our list to phungi, may we consider that he will consider all out picks and inform us it they do not meet the standard for celebrities?
I have in mind the 18 year old football player that I picked for 2017 that was found to not qualify. He was found to not have cancer, although I do hope that he steps in front of a truck before New Years Day.

ataraxy22 12-09-2017 02:15 AM

Jimmy Carter
George Bush (Sr.)
Prince Phillip (Duke of Edinburgh)
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
David Prowse
Stephen Hawking
Hugh Downs
Robert Silverberg
Harlan Ellison
Ursula K. Le Guin
Noam Chomsky
Walter Mondale
Dan Gurney

Alternates:
Andrew Jackson Young, Jr.
Rosalynn Carter
Bobby Unser

phungi 12-09-2017 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant (Post 20653099)
If we PM or email our list to phungi, may we consider that he will consider all out picks and inform us it they do not meet the standard for celebrities?
I have in mind the 18 year old football player that I picked for 2017 that was found to not qualify. He was found to not have cancer, although I do hope that he steps in front of a truck before New Years Day.

Any "questionable" picks will be "held in check" until the first of the year, and then posted for debate. As stated, this is why we have alternates.

While I hope folks feel I am trustworthy, I comfortably state that maintain a list throughout the year, adding and subtracting, so will not "poach" from any others' should they inquire.

As for the particular "pick" submitted by PM, my belief is that a professional athlete in a professional sports league passes the "muster" for "celebrity" even if they are not a "star player", in as much as a weatherman from a town in CT passes muster for "celebrity" even though they are not know to many outside of that town.

carnivorousplant 12-09-2017 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phungi (Post 20653942)
a weatherman from a town in CT passes muster for "celebrity" even though they are not know to many outside of that town.

I had hoped he would live until 1 Jan 2017, but he now seems immortal, although I am certain that he will drop dead if I leave him off.
Does phungi have the final say in such a ruling?

phungi 12-10-2017 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivorousplant (Post 20654207)
I had hoped he would live until 1 Jan 2017, but he now seems immortal, although I am certain that he will drop dead if I leave him off.
Does phungi have the final say in such a ruling?

He is on two lists in the 2017 pool, including mine. That said, my "ruling" is that he, like Joe Simpson and Shannen Doherty appear to be immortal


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