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Old 08-23-2016, 05:56 PM
EinsteinsHund EinsteinsHund is offline
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Originally Posted by Haldurson View Post
I can explain why people think something is stupid. If you like something, it doesn't matter how stupid it is -- you like it. And if you dislike something, it doesn't matter how clever it is, because it's wasted on something you consider to be crap.

And that's basically it.

You are never going to convince someone of anything regarding music that they don't like by claiming that it's clever.

I'll give you my own example of clever, and you tell me. When Bob Dylan first started, he sounded like this:

The problem was, he wasn't selling records. So he changed his voice to sound more like a blues singer:
And sure enough, he started selling records.

Now if you don't like Dylans voice, I'll never convince you that what he did was clever, and if you do like Dylan, it doesn't matter how clever it was.
Huh? I honestly can't grasp what point you're trying to make. Your first link is Lay Lady Lay from 1969, when he had already sold tons of records with his "blues singer" voice as you put it. One of his biggest single hits btw. Second link, The Time They Are-A Changing, is from 1964. Heck, Dylan sounded never more like a blues man than on his very first album. Even if you unintentionally swapped the links, it wouldn't make sense. He DID change his voice for 1969's Nashville Skyline, nobody knows exactly why (he said it was caused by having stopped smoking. Right Bob ), but I've never heard anything about him trying to sound more commercial. This voice was in any way a brief intermezzo (and one of the many oddities) in his career that was forgotten after the next album, Self Portrait.