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Old 06-04-2019, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tomndebb View Post
And your "by the people argument" falls in the face of the actual history of the ratification of the Constitution in which only one state held an actual referendum while the others held conventions using a republican format. (It is interesting to read the occasionally coercive methods used to get the votes, as well.)
Yes, there were conventions; that was the means by which the people chose whether or not to ratify the Constitution. That's my point.

If the Constitution had been a contract between states, it would have been sent to the various state governments for them to decide. It would have been treated like a treaty between sovereign nations.

Instead special conventions were called so that the people could decide whether to retain the current states they lived in or form a new country.