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Old 06-06-2019, 03:24 PM
Corry El is offline
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Originally Posted by bump View Post
Kind of a stinker of a weapon though; feeble cartridge and tended to be jam-prone. Probably ok for someone who rarely had to use it.
Again that came to be a more common view by the US Army in Korea and has carried on down. Not as much in WWII. Generally popular weapon, not particularly known as jam prone, and 'lacks stopping power' in Korea was probably mainly the result of poorly controlled full auto fire with M2 carbines*, IOW enemy soldiers who weren't 'stopped' because they weren't actually hit.

On the photo, I've seen it labelled as both 1st Marine Division and 77th Infantry Division (which also fought in the Okinawa campaign). But at least one guy does have Marine style camouflage cover on his helmet.

Anyway the answer would be virtually the same as far as who carried carbines, Army or Marines at that time. In the Army official TO&E all infantry squad members had a rifle or BAR, in Marine TO&E the differently organized squad had a squad leader with a carbine besides three rifle/BAR equipped fire teams. Army platoon leaders had a carbine, officially, while the Marine platoon hq had 2. But there were plenty of other men in infantry co's and bn's in both Army and Marine TO&E who were officially allotted carbines, besides non-infantry units and higher level hq's. Moreover, photo's of both Army and Marines late in WWII sometimes appear to show line infantry squad members with carbines in actual practice.

*some of which were also used late in WWII including on Okinawa though the carbines in any given photo on Okinawa are likely M1's.