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Old 06-12-2019, 03:00 PM
DrCube is offline
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Originally Posted by Muffin View Post
Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide.

Until you deal with the number of guns you're just spinning your wheels, or pistol chambers as may be.
And yet, over the past thirty years, the number of guns in the US has more than doubled, while violent crime has halved.

And restricting your study to "high income nations" is special pleading. They're just picking the biased sample which gives them the answer they set out to find in the first place. If the pattern was more than a statistical artifact, it would hold for all nations.

I'm not claiming more guns = less crime, but I am refuting that fewer guns = less crime. That's simply not the case:
There is no clear correlation whatsoever between gun ownership rate and gun homicide rate. Not within the USA. Not regionally. Not internationally. Not among peaceful societies. Not among violent ones. Gun ownership doesn’t make us safer. It doesn’t make us less safe. A bivariate correlation simply isn’t there. It is blatantly not-there. It is so tremendously not-there that the “not-there-ness” of it alone should be a huge news story.

And anyone with access to the internet and a basic knowledge of Microsoft Excel can check for themselves. Here’s how you do it.