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Old 07-29-2019, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kearsen1 View Post
Which is all fine and good but irrelevant in this thread since we are talking about conservatives holding 'personal responsibility' in high esteem.
It's my frickin' thread, if it was irrelevant I wouldn't have taken care to phrase it that way.

Originally Posted by Kearsen1 View Post
Relevance when talking about personal responsibility?
I pretty much laid it out in the OP. I don't think Mitt Romney feels any responsibility (note I said responsibility, not personal responsibility) for helping those people because they refuse, in his mind, to take personal responsibility for themselves. It's a value judgement of their character that he's using to avoid feeling responsible for them as Americans. And that's the way, I'm arguing, that conservatives tend to use the phrase "personal responsibility." Not as a value they personally hold, even though I don't disagree that they do, but as something that other Americans lack.

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