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Old 02-29-2020, 03:55 PM
UltraVires is offline
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Originally Posted by China Guy View Post
I know, the Dean Scream. If you actually watch the clip, it is a WTF moment. This excited campaign stop was an unhinged maniac??? You gotta be dry humping me? This torpedo'd a presidential run? Can you say 'media spin"?
Everyone gets the Dean Scream wrong.

I watched it live. Howard Dean was the front runner throughout late 2003 but starting losing it right before the Iowa Caucuses. John Kerry came out and beat him bad. John Edwards beat him bad. It was Kerry 37.6%, Edwards 31.8%, and Dean a distant third at 18%.

You were expecting a somber speech with possibly a promise to retool. But nope. You had the crowd fired up into a frenzy and Dean stomping out, rolling up his sleeves and declaring that they were going to win every state followed up by the scream.

It came across to me and to the news commentators at the time that Dean was at best, at best completely unhinged and did not appreciate the severity of his loss. At worst, he was being disingenuous with his supporters by not acknowledging what a kick in the teeth the Iowa result was. Either way it called into question his ability to lead. And this is at a time where he was already losing support and this scream just continued the spiral.

This new narrative that people got upset because he dared scream in excitement after a victory does not mesh with the facts.