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Old 09-07-2018, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Grim Render View Post
Mexicos cost are low because Mexico is poor. Canada is rich and still spend half what you do.

One half the price is setting normal, actually. In 2016, Canada spent 4 700 $ per person, the UK 4200, Sweden 5 400, Japan 4 500, Finland 4 000, Ireland 5 500. Us costs are approaching 10 500. Your public, tax-paid costs are $ 5 000 per citizen. Thats more than the public plus private costs of the average OECD nation. We know what it costs to run a UHC system. It is a totally unremarkable thing in the developed world. We know it is less than you spend on just the public health care. This is stuff that was done as a matter of course by Silvio Berlusconis Italy.

Also you already spend more than 3,2 trillion!
It's a simplification. What is going on in the US is that we pay healthcare providers more for their services than in other countries. Our physician and nurses salaries are the highest in the world. Physician salaries especially are incredibly high in comparison to their European counterparts (Why is always the question, but a lot of it has to do with the fact that the AMA acts like a cartel in the US and limits the number of practitioners via statute.) Due to the amount that we pay, we're also innovation centers that effectively subsidize research to the rest of the world. Pharmaceuticals is one of the easiest places to see this. Pharmaceutical companies basically run their development budgets off of the US market. Non-US countries move to generics much more quickly and so US consumers are footing the bill for research costs via higher drug costs. It's a situation where the rest of the world likes to shake their head at the US paying so much, but they really don't want to see the US stop paying so much either.

In many ways, it's the US defense conundrum. Everyone agrees that the US spends far too much on defense, but nobody really wants to see the US spend less either. The world likes having a relatively stable democracy that is committed to maintaining existing world borders having not just a big military, but an effectively unbeatable one.

In a similar way, everyone agrees that the US spends too much on healthcare, but no one really wants to see a world where we stop spending so much.

Last edited by senoy; 09-07-2018 at 03:04 PM.