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Old 10-11-2014, 02:26 PM
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(Gah, the hamsters are currently denying me access to the quote function, so...)

mhendo: I fully agree with everything you said, except the part suggesting that I had presented a position accepting anything. I was simply pointing out an issue central to the problem we're discussing that seemed to be completely overlooked here and elsewhere.

I simply made the observation and asked a rhetorical question in an effort to advance the discussion towards one of the roots of the problem. Sadly, I have no answers to that problem - but not ignoring it is a pretty good start, I think.