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Old 05-21-2012, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Zarkov View Post
Hitler was an Austrian atheist whose only humanity exists by defining Human as a sequence of DNA.
Hitler was Austrian, but he was a Catholic.

Originally Posted by terentii View Post
The preponderance of evidence, meagre though it is, indicates that Johann Georg's brother Johann Nepomuk, who took in Alois and raised him as one of his own (and later left him a legacy following the death of his wife and Alois's adoption of the family name), was Adolf's real grandfather. Johann Georg may have married Maria Anna Schicklgruber and claimed paternity just to spare his brother some domestic strife (and be made comfortable for the rest of his life).

In Mein Kampf, inaccurate as it is in some places, Adolf describes his grandfather as "a poor, small cottager." This would apply more to Nepomuk than Georg, who was a journeyman miller.

As for mental or physical defects running in the family, the region of Austria in which they lived was well-known for incest and illegitimacy in the 19th century. Inbreeding could hardly have been uncommon.
Ian Kershaw states that Mein Kampf is full of contradictions and to just take Hitler's word for this statement read here.

Yes first cousins once removed was not uncommon, but there still was incest in his family.

Johann Georg Hiedler was his grandfather accordingly and there is no reason to doubt.

Originally Posted by terentii View Post
Also, Klara Hitler (Adolf's mother) habitually called her husband "Uncle," even though in the eyes of the law and the Church they were second cousins. (Alois and Klara had to get a special dispensation from the Catholic Church to marry.)
They were not second cousins, they were first cousins once removed - there is a difference.