Thread: Joe Biden's in
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Old 06-25-2019, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by asahi View Post
Ryan Grim? The same Ryan Grim who arrogantly refused to believe that Trump could win and accused Nate Silver of putting his thumb on the scales to make a an already-decided presidential election more interesting? That Ryan Grim who days later got totally owned and was forced to apologize and admit he had no fucking clue what he was talking about?
Oh, you mean like half the known universe.
The backside to that story is that before that, Joe Biden was the outgoing senator who was able to convince Susan Collins and Arlen Specter to break a filibuster so that Barack Obama could get one of his signature pieces of legislation -- the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act -- done
Which is the perfect illustration of the limits of Biden's approach to confronting GOP intransigence. With our economy in free fall, losing 700,000 jobs a month, clearly headed towards the worst cratering of our economy since the 1930s, a cratering that people were already blaming on the Republicans, and would have continued to do so had they blocked any action - he could only barely get the three votes he needed to break the filibuster, and to get Collins' or Snowe's vote, I can't remember which, he needed to cut the already-too-small stimulus by another $100B.

In all likelihood, Biden needs to pass legislation in the future, there won't be a gun pointed at both the GOP's and the nation's head. He will hopefully never again have such optimal circumstances for persuading Republicans to go along.
How would Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren deal with that - tell them to leave the party?
Your lack of interest in having a serious debate comes through loud and clear.