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Old 10-30-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by magellan01 View Post
Yes, you were WAY off. But, AGAIN, you can't just look at deaths by police, you need to look at deaths by police where they were confronted with an armed suspect.

From The Atlantic:

Do you have similar info from the UK to come to the conclusion you have? And here's an interesting stat that has relevance on what cops are up against in the US:
Number of cops killed by guns in the US in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018: 177

Number of cops killed by guns in the UK in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018: 0
Also, I don't know where your getting your 10,000X number. Can you explain?
The 10,000X (actually 14,000X, per capita) comes from a back-of-the-envelope calculation, linked in the post you quoted in post #305.

No, I don't have more details about those shot by police in the two countries, I was just looking at the total numbers. And the utterly massive discrepancy, which completely swamps (by several orders of magnitude) any differences in per capita crime or firearm ownership, struck me as notable.

But it's a back-of-the-envelope calculation, not a detailed study, so feel free to dismiss it if you like. I'm certainly not going to go to the mat to defend it.