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Old 03-30-2015, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bbonden View Post
I think that you are looking at a fictional detective/TV standard. In the real world, this is a pretty simple case.

Jay is complicit. There is no getting around that (unless you unwind the "knew where the car is," which no one even tried to do). The only question then is whether it is Jay alone, or Jay + Adnan, or Jay + someone else. That's it. That's the universe.

Jay + "I believe him when it comes to Adnan" = beyond a reasonable doubt. That's not an abdication of the jury's role, that is the jury's role. They saw the witnesses, they heard the contradictions in various parts of Jay's testimony, and they disregarded those contradictions when it came to assessing Adnan's guilt or innocence.

Nor is it a cop-out. Jay had Adnan's car and brand-new mobile phone. Of the many, many people who could have come forward and said that Jay did it, or at least that Jay had motive to do it, not one did. Not Jenn, not Stephanie, not even Adnan. Of the tens of thousands of people (at least) who know the essential facts of the case, not one has even come up with a plausible alternate theory that incorporates the undisputed facts, the timeline and motives.

Sarah Koenig did a wonderful job narrating, and built a compelling product. But she also is very lucky that Jay told so many different stories, because without them there would not have been much to talk about.
We agree on much. But believing Jay on anything that isn't independently corroborated is too far to go - he's proven himself to be too unreliable.

You're right that if Jay tells one story implicating Adnan, sticks to it, and it isn't materially contradicted by known facts, there wouldn't be anywhere to go. But, well, that isn't the case here.