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Old 03-03-2020, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wesley Clark View Post
If you only go back to the post Reagan era, yeah the party hasn't changed much (if anything it has moved left since the 90s).

However going back to earlier in the 20th century, the democratic party has moved very far to the right. Large scale ideas like the ones from FDR and LBJ would never pass in a modern democratic party, not even on a state level where democrats have supermajorities in congress.

Sanders is pretty in line with FDR. FDR was a mainstream well respected democrat in the 1930s and 1940s. Sanders is portrayed as a radical extremist.

The party has moved to the right, a lot of which can be traced back to the Reagan revolution, the abolition of the fairness doctrine, the rise in lobbying and corporate power, and the southern strategy in the mid/late 20th century.
Even if we go back that far I think the party has still moved to the left.

Regarding the Southern Strategy, that made the party more liberal. The effect was that Dixiecrats, who were the most conservative members, became Republicans. This applies to both the voters and the elected officials.

Regarding LBJ and FDR, letís look at some of their signature achievements. LBJcare (Medicare) was an improvement on what came before, but Obamacare improves on that. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a great achievement. But if someone were to try to convince me that minorities were treated better in 1965 than in 2015 or even 2020, Iíd laugh at them. Whatever aspects of FDRís great society have been weakened were weakened by Republicans, not subsequent Democrats.

If FDR and LBJ were around today, I have no doubt they would be liberal. But the FDR from the 30s and 40s and the LBJ from the 60s were not more liberal than current day Amy Klobuchar or Pete Buttigieg.