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Old 09-05-2019, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RickJay View Post
they thought a massive standing army a huge threat to liberty.
That was a close decision, one that they themselves reversed very quickly. The debate is, for better or worse, best remembered for Gerry's quip “A standing army is like a standing member. It’s an excellent assurance of domestic tranquility, but a dangerous temptation to foreign adventure.”
They would rush back to 1789 and alter the Constitution to prevent that.
The US established the standing Regular Army in 1791. There were no major objections raised, and no need seen to amend or drop the Second.

That said, can we drop the "Founding Fathers" term? It implies that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention were holy prophets of some kind rather than just men who meant well and did their human best, and were guided by God rather than their own experienced understanding of human nature. The document is not Scripture; they intended that it be amended as deficiencies were discovered through use, and could be tossed and replaced entirely if it got unwieldy - they even added the procedures for doing so. Jefferson famously observed that there ought to be a new one every 20 years or so. Several mentions have been made in this thread of how astonished, even horrified, they'd be to see it today - but the thing that might astonish them the most would be that we're still using it.

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