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Old 02-08-2020, 08:44 PM
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Twenty-one Dead in Thailand. Minimal Press Coverage.


There is press coverage of the massacre. I am not saying the story is being ignored. It just seems to me to not be getting the coverage it ought.

Cnn.com The main story on the front page.
BBC.com same
New York Times on the front page below the fold.
Reddit news.Not on the front page at the moment.
NY Post. Not mentioned on the front page,
NY Daily News Same
Daily Mail Same
Globe & Mail Same
Los Angeles Times Same
Jewish Telegraph Agency Same


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I'm well aware of the story and I live in the middle of nowhere.
It is the top story under "World news" on my Google news feed.
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I suppose time zones and the developing nature of the story has something to do with it. Still, this seems to be a big story.
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BBC now reporting the perp has been shot dead
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I saw it reported on the local Chicago TV news. How is it being reported in Saudia Arabia?
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:15 PM
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It's been the main story on the AP's front page all day.
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Washington Post has a line of links at the top of the webpage. It has a link to the full story but no actual headline on the main page. It could be an algorithmic decision since I'm logged in.
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I saw it reported on the local Chicago TV news. How is it being reported in Saudia Arabia?
Oddly, I have not even looked. The Saudi papers are my afternoon fare. Let me look....

Not on the front page. They do have Saudi Arabia on a fast track to gender equality, study suggests and US court dismisses Turkey’s attempt to shut down Erdogan bodyguard attack cases. Since they got rid of “Hi & Louis” the Arab News has gone downhill.
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Off topic, but any reason why your links don't work in the US?

I just contacted my friend in Bangkok, she's quite shocked this could happen in Thailand.
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I cannot imagine why the links do not work. They are from the front page of the current issue of the Arab News.
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My local news is leading with it as I write this.
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My local news is leading with it as I write this.
On mine also.
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made the 2 minute hourly radio news bulletin here in New Zealand
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In Israel, the major news sites in Hebrew have the story on the first page.
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imho … he shouldn't have gotten any coverage at all … fleas like him need to be burned at the stake … for taking other innocent lives in his "agenda" … definitely does not constitute any 'immortalization'.
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It was listed on Fark early yesterday AM. Which in turn linked to a BBC story.

I strongly disagree with the OP's claim.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:53 PM
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I just contacted my friend in Bangkok, she's quite shocked this could happen in Thailand.
My first thought was: Is this in the ethnically Malay part of Thailand? Because amok is a culture-bound phenomenon for Malays. Nope, it was a long way from there.
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From what I've read, the shooter was upset about a housing deal gone wrong. WTF? Something bad happens, so the obvious response is to kill and cripple dozens and dozens of strangers?

Terrorism for a cause, however worthless, seems more explainable at least.
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Is America exporting it's nihilistic mass shooting culture overseas? I'm hearing increasingly more about them happening in foreign lands.
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Responding to the OP, the shooting has been on my ordinary Google newsfeed since it happened. It was the very first hit when it happened, and now has dropped down a bit, but I’d say it’s got regular coverage. (Posting from Canada.)
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imho … he shouldn't have gotten any coverage at all … fleas like him need to be burned at the stake … for taking other innocent lives in his "agenda" … definitely does not constitute any 'immortalization'.
Paul in Qatar thinks the story isn't getting enough attention. You think it's getting too much attention. How about you get together and decide how much attention it should get?

Personally, I think Americans, at least, are just jaded about mass shootings.
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Paul in Qatar thinks the story isn't getting enough attention. You think it's getting too much attention. How about you get together and decide how much attention it should get?
I've certainly wondered whether it's best if such mass shootings weren't publicized at all, to cut down on how many other people get the idea (or have it reinforced) to do likewise.
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My local news is leading with it as I write this.
Later correction: It was the first thing mentioned when the anchor read the headlines, but was the 2nd story covered in more depth. This got first billing, because it was local. I realize the timeline is a bit off; yesterday's story covered her burial.

https://www.kwqc.com/content/news/Ri...567539341.html

TL : DR - a local volunteer firefighter who had cystic fibrosis (!!!!!!!!!) died from complications of a lung transplant. I was puzzled as to how she could meet any kind of fitness standards, and mentioned this on Facebook, and got piled on by people who said they knew her and she was indeed able to do the job until she suddenly got worse and needed the transplant.

I suspect it isn't a bigger story here because no Americans were involved. Bet nobody here's ever heard of THIS crime spree. I found out about it on a true-crime message board.

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made the 2 minute hourly radio news bulletin here in New Zealand
Whenever BBC America talks about the New Zealand mosque shooter, that's exactly how he's referred to, and his entire body is fuzzied out. I think that's a good idea for people like this, period.
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It was the top story on CNN online yesterday. I certainly thought it got adequate coverage. I saw it again this morning, but the Oscars appear to have shoved it off the site entirely. That's disappointing.

I strongly disagree with the idea of giving no coverage to mass shootings. Not covering any story in which people die or are harmed by someone else's actions because we don't want to encourage bad behavior would be foolish and wrong. People suffer. Laws may need changing. Our world view would become distorted.

The remaining Beatles refused to use the name of Lennon's murderer to avoid giving the killer any fame, and I'm in favor of that as a social practice, though not as a legal or journalistic one.
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Is America exporting it's nihilistic mass shooting culture overseas? I'm hearing increasingly more about them happening in foreign lands.
Yep, sadly.

Top news in Spain.
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I've seen a lot of coverage of it, even on local news. But I've also noticed that in the last year or two, even domestic mass shootings have gotten less coverage than they used to. Not none, but they're not the wall-to-wall days-long Event that they used to be. Which is probably a good thing overall, even if it's for the macabre reason that they became ratings losers due to overexposure.

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I've certainly wondered whether it's best if such mass shootings weren't publicized at all, to cut down on how many other people get the idea (or have it reinforced) to do likewise.
The shooter certainly doesn't need to be publicized, but the victims deserve respect. Most importantly, the public needs to see how the authorities respond to events like these, in order to make sure they learn from their mistakes. Mass shootings are a matter of public safety, and public safety requires public scrutiny.

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When I go to https://www.bbc.com/news/world/asia I only see stories about the Oscars and coronavirus, which seems a bit odd.
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The N.Y. Daily News and N.Y. Post are tabloids that heavily feature local news/scandals on their front page with banner headlines and giant photos.

They are not newspapers of record as far as front page coverage goes.

ABC News' website currently has Trump's proposed budget leading coverage and "Armed groups kill 450 in Mali" well down the page.

Local/national interest generally dictates coverage placement around the world.

*there's nothing on the front page of the Bangkok Post about Trump's budget or the stabbing of Deebo the police dog.

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The shootings were reported on 1010 WINS news radio in NYC, but got overshadowed by the ambush shooting of two NYC police officers by one idiot, as reported here.

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