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Old 07-18-2019, 08:49 PM
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Jesus, is this supposed to be a Christening?


Holy Hell, if this was my child, I'd beat this priest to a pulp.

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Old 07-18-2019, 09:34 PM
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That wasn't what I would expect.
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Guaranteed that's an Eastern Orthodox (I've no idea if it's Russian, Greek, etc. though). I've personally never seen an Orthodox baptism nor have I seen one in film or on TV. I do know the priest is required to fully submerge the infant so I can see why it's important to get the three "dunkings" done as quickly as possible. This is scary, though.

Has anyone here seen an Orthodox baptism of an infant and, if so, how similar was it to this scary video?
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Guaranteed that's an Eastern Orthodox (I've no idea if it's Russian, Greek, etc. though). I've personally never seen an Orthodox baptism nor have I seen one in film or on TV. I do know the priest is required to fully submerge the infant so I can see why it's important to get the three "dunkings" done as quickly as possible. This is scary, though.

Has anyone here seen an Orthodox baptism of an infant and, if so, how similar was it to this scary video?
I've never seen one, but here's a video of a baptism. Note the infant is submerged three times, but it's done quite gently.

And, in response to the video shared by the OP, the Greek Orthodox Church of Australia has a firm denial:

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“The Greek Archdiocese of Australia would like to make it known that this is definitely not the Greek Orthodox practice. The ‘priest’ in question is not Greek Orthodox, nor is he a bishop of the Greek Orthodox Church as is alleged of the video.”
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That's fucked up. Poor kid could have brain damage from that.
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That's fucked up. Poor kid could have brain damage from that.
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Was expecting the priest to either toss the kid backwards over his shoulder on the third go or just suplex him. I am disappoint.


Seriously though, not only is this awful, it's semi-obviously not how these things are supposed to go down judging by the shocked faces & body language of the people in the background. I'm going with "priest on all the cocaine".
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Holy Hell, if this was my child, I'd beat this priest to a pulp.

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What the fuck did I just watch? I didn't have audio for it, but I imagined the priest saying: "SMASHY SMASHY!"
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That is fucking horrible, just defies all common sense
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I've never seen one, but here's a video of a baptism. Note the infant is submerged three times, but it's done quite gently.

And, in response to the video shared by the OP, the Greek Orthodox Church of Australia has a firm denial:
In some old fashioned Southern Baptist baptisms, preachers go out to rivers or lakes and dunk kids, but they're at least told to hold their breath and it's done gently.

But that little baby's skull isn't developed enough yet to reliably withstand that kind of shaking. Just horrible
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I couldn't even finish watching it. I hope the baby is okay.
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I couldn't even process it. My brain tried to convince me it must be a fake video, or using a doll or something. The kids limbs are flying in a way that limbs aren't supposed to. But then you see the kid crumple up.

Any new info on where it is from?

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Guaranteed that's an Eastern Orthodox (I've no idea if it's Russian, Greek, etc. though). I've personally never seen an Orthodox baptism nor have I seen one in film or on TV. I do know the priest is required to fully submerge the infant so I can see why it's important to get the three "dunkings" done as quickly as possible. This is scary, though.

Has anyone here seen an Orthodox baptism of an infant and, if so, how similar was it to this scary video?
I'm orthodox, and the priests do submerge. it is usually gentle and the majority of priests have children and are accustomed to handling infants. the baptisms I've seen don't look like the video.
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That's the baptismal ceremony for that particular church/religion, so its members obviously know what the ceremony entails. The fact that they are there and participating indicates to me that don't have a problem with it. I'd love to speak to someone there and ask them why it has to be such a violent process.
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Reading the comments, I don't want to watch this. Can anyone write a brief description (perhaps in spoilers) of what happens?

I washed my babies in the bathtub, holding them on my lap. If the water is the right temperature, babies are very comfortable in water. I would have thought it really easy to hold a baby and gently submerge it in water for just a moment for a baptism, if you wanted to have a full-submersion baptism.
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There's a guy holding a baby under its arms, and slamming it rather forcefully a few times into a ceremonial bird bath looking thing.
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Wow, that guy really hates that baby.
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Reading the comments, I don't want to watch this. Can anyone write a brief description (perhaps in spoilers) of what happens?
As the article put it, the priest dunked the child

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in a manner reminiscent of a starving man dunking an Oreo into a glass of milk after having just been rescued from a deserted island.

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That's the baptismal ceremony for that particular church/religion, so its members obviously know what the ceremony entails. The fact that they are there and participating indicates to me that don't have a problem with it. I'd love to speak to someone there and ask them why it has to be such a violent process.
I'm going to say, I don't think so. It's pretty obvious the rest of the audience, adults and kids alike, is rather horrified at this.
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The priest is pissed off about something, but holy hell!

I'd say that calls for an immediate assignment to funerals only. Before there's cause for one.
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That's the baptismal ceremony for that particular church/religion, so its members obviously know what the ceremony entails. The fact that they are there and participating indicates to me that don't have a problem with it. I'd love to speak to someone there and ask them why it has to be such a violent process.
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The priest is pissed off about something, but holy hell!

I'd say that calls for an immediate assignment to funerals only. Before there's cause for one.
He used to do funerals, but was reassigned after pushing over coffins.
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In fairness, we don't see what happens before the plunging. Maybe the baby was trash-talking about the guy's mother or something.
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in a manner reminiscent of a starving man dunking an Oreo into a glass of milk after having just been rescued from a deserted island.
It looks to me more like a starving man trying to break open a coconut with a large rock.
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Well, if that kid comes up with any sort of mental issues, I'm smelling a fat lawsuit in somebody's future.
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It's not enough to just wash the baby sins away, you gotta scare the demons out too or else they just get you dirty again.
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I noticed this in the Twitter comments:

"Just thinking out loud: I’m glad he doesn’t perform circumcisions."
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Just for info, this one made Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/baby-dunking-video/ They rate it as "mixture".

Then there is this version, a little more gentler but the kid gets dunked first head-, then feet-first, three times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=fTTIgIGtopY
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He's moving the baby rapidly up and down while not supporting the baby's head.

The priest in the different video Railer13 cited is supporting the baby's head and neck very carefully.
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It looks like an industrial-strength version of this Romanian Orthodox Christening. I've been to a few Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Christenings that look more like this or this(go to 16:10).
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There's a guy holding a baby under its arms, and slamming it rather forcefully a few times into a ceremonial bird bath looking thing.
It's called a "baptismal font".
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It looks like an industrial-strength version of this Romanian Orthodox Christening. I've been to a few Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Christenings that look more like this or this(go to 16:10).
I watched the last two links -- yeah, that's what I would expect a whole-body immersion of an infant to look like. The baby supported, the whole thing done quickly and efficiently, and an attempt to prevent the baby from taking a breath underwater.
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Baptismal Font? Is it sans serif?
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Just for info, this one made Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/baby-dunking-video/ They rate it as "mixture".
Which to me is a weird label for what they actually say, which is that they cant verify the video, but that infant submersion baptisms are a thing, and that there is a trend to do them quickly in mass baptisms.

That's not a mixture where some aspects are true and others are false. Since they use words for their raitings, not symbols, I don't see any reason they couldn't use more: "Unverified video, but real practice."

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Has anyone here seen an Orthodox baptism of an infant and, if so, how similar was it to this scary video?
I have been to a few Greek Orthodox Christenings and although they submerge the child under the water it was done with care and finesse.
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He's moving the baby rapidly up and down while not supporting the baby's head.
Not only that, but he repeatedly comes close to slamming the baby's head or legs against the side (or on the upper edge) of the punch bowl.

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Not only that, but he repeatedly comes close to slamming the baby's head or legs against the side (or on the upper edge) of the punch bowl.
You can't make a good punch without cracking a few skulls.
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Yep, you should see what is required when they need to baptize an adult in a similar manner.

They first have to strip them, then it requires about 4-5 men to grab the person to forcefully dunk them the required three times.
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The adult version utilizes a burlap sack and aluminum baseball bats.
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I've never seen one, but here's a video of a baptism. Note the infant is submerged three times, but it's done quite gently.
It is a lot more gentle but, man is that one tiny baby. Does the baptism have to be done before eight days, like bris?
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My brother went Russian Orthodox because it was "closer to the original Church," but I don't think John the Baptist woulda done it that way.
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It is a lot more gentle but, man is that one tiny baby. Does the baptism have to be done before eight days, like bris?
This states that the baptism should take place between the ages of 4 and 12 months. And this says that infants are 'usually older than 8 days.'

Anybody know for sure?
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