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Old 11-15-2019, 09:03 AM
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Song sung by fans near end of English football matches


Here in the states there is a (mildly unsportsmanlike) tradition observed at various team sporting events when the game clock is about to run out and one team has no realistic hope of scoring enough points to win in the time remaining. The fans of the winning team will sometimes sing the chorus of "Na Na Hey Hey Goodbye" in these circumstances.

I recently heard there is a similar tradition with English football, where fans sing a certain song when the final outcome is painfully obvious.

1. Is this is in fact the case?
2. What is the song?
3. Is it the winning team fans that sing this song or is there some instance where the losing team fans sing their own song?
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:20 AM
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The song is by top 80's popstrelles "Bananarama". I busted many a "shape" to that during my peak teenage years.

It may be used now and again but it is far from a tradition. I'd expect it to be used more when someone was sent off or substituted rather than for an irretrievable position.

I may be wrong, I watch footy but rarely attend in person
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:20 AM
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I’m not the authority, but I’ve found this on the WikiP page for “You’ll Never Walk Alone”.

“The song is also sung at association football clubs around the world, where it is performed by a massed chorus of supporters on matchday; this tradition developed at Liverpool F.C. after the chart success of the 1963 single of the song by the local Liverpool group Gerry and the Pacemakers."

Your thread title made me think of Pink Floyd’s version of the song, so I went searching this morn.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:56 AM
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I recently heard there is a similar tradition with English football, where fans sing a certain song when the final outcome is painfully obvious.
I'm not aware of any particular traditions along these lines, although if a team is losing badly in the EPL, particularly when the manager's job is under pressure, then fans of the winning team will often sing "You're getting sacked in the morning" to the tune of the Cuban song "Guantanamera". I'm not sure how this song came to enter British football. It's also used with other lyrics, such as "There's only one Arsene Wenger", or "You're just a shit Arsene Wenger" (to Unai Emery).
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I'm getting the impression there's more fans singing various songs in general at English football matches. Does anyone know if singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" is tied to any specific game events, or is it just some sort of general "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" kinda fun-spirited song?

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The song is by top 80's popstrelles "Bananarama". I busted many a "shape" to that during my peak teenage years.

It may be used now and again but it is far from a tradition. I'd expect it to be used more when someone was sent off or substituted rather than for an irretrievable position.

I may be wrong, I watch footy but rarely attend in person
Slight sidetrack - You must be younger than me, NB. It's by Steam, from 1969. I do like the word "popstrelle", though. Consider it nicked.

Interestingly, this says that the first sporting use of the song was in 1977 in Chicago.

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I'm getting the impression there's more fans singing various songs in general at English football matches. Does anyone know if singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" is tied to any specific game events, or is it just some sort of general "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" kinda fun-spirited song?
Fairly specifically tied to Liverpool FC - it is effectively their song. You do see that sort of thing - for example, I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles is the West Ham Utd song, and so on; though by no means every club has a song so closely associated with them.

FWIW, when I used to watch Workington Reds back in the seventies and early eighties, we used to sing "You'll Never Walk Alone", but with vulgar changes to the lyric. So it hasn't always been uniquely Liverpudlian.

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Slight sidetrack - You must be younger than me, NB. It's by Steam, from 1969. I do like the word "popstrelle", though. Consider it nicked.

Interestingly, this says that the first sporting use of the song was in 1977 in Chicago.

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FWIW, when I used to watch Workington Reds back in the seventies and early eighties, we used to sing "You'll Never Walk Alone", but with vulgar changes to the lyric. So it hasn't always been uniquely Liverpudlian.
My dad used to take me to Workington to watch the rugby when we visited his side of the family. The language and songs there were robust, to say the least and my dad was constantly mortified by it. He never swore himself and yet he was from Maryport if you can believe such a thing.
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I'm getting the impression there's more fans singing various songs in general at English football matches. Does anyone know if singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" is tied to any specific game events, or is it just some sort of general "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" kinda fun-spirited song?
The Gerry & The Pacemakers' 1963 version of the song is played on the stadium speakers at Liverpool's ground before every game, and the fans sing along. Sometimes it's spontaneously sung during the game when Liverpool are winning. While most closely associated with Liverpool, the song has also been adopted by other clubs around the world, including Celtic, Borussia Dortmund and FC Twente.
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My dad used to take me to Workington to watch the rugby when we visited his side of the family. The language and songs there were robust, to say the least and my dad was constantly mortified by it. He never swore himself and yet he was from Maryport if you can believe such a thing.
If he went to Netherhall School, my father may have taught him. Crikey.

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Old 11-15-2019, 11:24 AM
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not every football club has an anthem, but i'd say the majority of big clubs have a song the fans will sing just prior to kickoff and at the 90 minute mark to finish out the match. they're also sung in general when the team needs a pick me up or when the team is performing well. it's the English equivalent of fans chanting USA, USA..

each team's supporters will also have a repertoire of uplifting chants and songs for their own team, plus vulgar chants and songs they'll sing to and about the other team, it's players, the manager, and of course, the referee.

here's a compilation of anthems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDehMKgPLk4
and another with explanations. http://home.bt.com/news/features/13-...11363997851100

50 chants with some explanation. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...ootball-chants
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:25 AM
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Football team fans have an array of songs - many are for their own team/history/players but there are many other songs - often crude but usually humorous that get chanted too. In answer to your question, the one that springs to mind is:

Can we play you
Can we play you
Can we play you every week?
Can we play you every week?

I forget the name of the melody - but you'll know it when you hear it
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:36 AM
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There are very many songs sung at football matches, either generic ones sung by most clubs, songs specific to a specific club (you'll never walk alone/Liverpool FC), or even songs specific to a player.

My club, Aston Villa, have a song which targets their traditional local rivals, Birmingham City (aka The Blues). They sing this song regardless of who they are playing.

To the tune of 'Che sera sera'...

"When I was just a little boy
I asked my mother, what will I be.
Will I be Villa, Will I be Blues
Here's what She said to me
Get your father's gun
And shoot the City scum
For Villa are Number One,
Che sera sera."

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Old 11-15-2019, 11:39 AM
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I also like the ing fans sing to the opposing fans, particularly fans known for sining who go quiet when they're losing. Again to the tune of Guantamarera

"You only sing when you're winning
Sing when you're winning
You only sing when you're winning"
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:53 PM
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songs specific to a player.
One of the more robust was Man Utd's ode to their well-liked South Korean player Park Ji-sung. Of course, it's actually more of a dig at their Liverpudlian rivals

Quote:
Park, Park, wherever you may be,
You eat dogs in your home country,
It could be worse,
You could be Scouse,
Eating rats in your council house...
(to the tune Lord of the Dance)
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Wow, these are positively illuminating responses. This Yank is learning a lot about Brits.
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:59 PM
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The team I have supported for 50+ years chant the following two classics at all games, home and away

The first to the tune of the Battle Hymn of The Republic.

Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur
Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur
Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur
And the Spurs go marching in (in in).

Here's a link to that if you want to join in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMSuUQ6mg1w

The other is Oh When the Saints go marching in, substituting "Saints" for "Spurs".

Here's that one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDQ7JHcaeBA

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There is of course the classic Newcastle United song aimed at their bitter rivals in Sunderland. In fairness they were right, he has got a monkeys heed

Quote:
In the land, where I was born,
Lives a man, with a monkeys heed,
And he went to Sunderland,
And his name, is Peter Reid...

Peter Reids got a f***in monkeys heed,
A f***in monkeys heed,
A f***in monkeys heed,
Peter Reids got a f***in monkeys heed,
A f***in monkeys heed,
A f***in monkeys heed..
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Has Arsenal got their own song/chant?
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Football team fans have an array of songs - many are for their own team/history/players but there are many other songs - often crude but usually humorous that get chanted too. In answer to your question, the one that springs to mind is:

Can we play you
Can we play you
Can we play you every week?
Can we play you every week?

I forget the name of the melody - but you'll know it when you hear it
Bread of Heaven.
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In Scotland, if you see fans of a losing team leaving early you can sing 'Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio...' to the tune of (I had to look it up) 'The Stars and Stripes Forever'. I don't know if this is sung in England though.
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Ode to this thread:

Ca-fé Society, you're going to Ca-fé Society!
Café So-ciety, you're going to Café Sociiiiiety.

(To the aforementioned Guantanamera tune.)

Edit: 'You're getting sent to the Games Room', to the same tune, may be more likely.

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And then there's Everton. Enjoy the weird.

(That's actually the theme tune to a 1960's cop show called Z-Cars).

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Has Arsenal got their own song/chant?
'Have', Cardigan, 'have'. For a while Arsenal fans sang 'One nil to the Arsenal' to the Go West tune, but I think that might have stopped with the more swashbuckling Wenger era.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:57 PM
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There is of course the classic Newcastle United song aimed at their bitter rivals in Sunderland. In fairness they were right, he has got a monkeys heed
To the tune of Yellow Submarine, and one of the genre's finest.

There's loads of variants of this, to the tune of Daydream Believer

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Cheer up <rival manager>,
Oh what can it mean,
To a <something offensive that scans>,
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Has Arsenal got their own song/chant?
They've had some good player ones, including:

- "Ian Wright Wright Wright", set to "Feeling Hot Hot Hot"
- "We've got Cesc Fabregas", set to "La donna č mobile" from Rigoletto
- "Naaa...na-na-nanana-naaa...Nanana-na...Nanana-na...Giroud!" (for striker Olivier Giroud), set to "Hey Jude"

The "Hey Jude" coda tune has been used in football songs for many years, but for Giroud, it's perfect.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:32 PM
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Well you learn something new every day! It will always be a 'rama song for me of course, such is the power of teenage memory. I can almost see Joanne Malherbe bouncing her way across the floor towards me...............happy days.
You probably think "Venus" is a Bananarama original too...
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:39 PM
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It is probably the hymn "Cwm Rhondda", in English better known as

"Guide me, O thou great Redeemer,
Pilgrim through this barren land;
I am weak, but thou art mighty;
Hold me with thy powerful hand:
Bread of heaven, bread of heaven
Feed me till I want no more.
Feed me till I want no more.

... and so on
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A brilliant player song from the past, sung by Manchester United fans, was "Neville Neville". Gary Neville and Phil Neville were two brothers playing for Manchester United as defenders, and their father was called Neville Neville - that really was his name. The song was sung to the tune of "Rebel Rebel", with these lyrics:
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Neville Neville, Your future's immense,
Neville Neville, You play in defence,
Neville Neville, Like Jacko you're bad,
Neville Neville, Is the name of your dad
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There is of course the classic Newcastle United song aimed at their bitter rivals in Sunderland. In fairness they were right, he has got a monkeys heed
But I thought Hartlepool was the place that specialised in monkeys.
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Sometimes they sing the current score to the tune of Amazing Grace.

Three-nil, three-he-he-nil, three-nil, three-nil,
Three-nil, three-he-he-nil, THREE-NIIIIILLLL,
etc.
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Wow, these are positively illuminating responses. This Yank is learning a lot about Brits.
Those football chants surely originated in Britain, but are in no way exclusive. There are chants to the tunes of popular songs all over the world in football. Here's a German classic, denigrating Bayern München, the most reviled club in Germany except for, well, Bayern fans, sung to the tune of "Yellow Submarine":

Zieht den Bayern die Lederhosen aus
Lederhosen aus
Lederhosen aus


meaning "Drag drown the Bayern's lederhosen!"

another classic is this, sung to the tune of "It's A Heartache" by Bonnie Tyler:

Ihr seid Schalker, asoziale Schalker
Ihr schlaft unter Brücken
Oder in der Bahnhofsmission


You are Schalker
Antisocial Schalker
You sleep under bridges
Or at the railway mission

"Schalker" being one generic example of fans of one club, Schalke 04, but replace "Schalker" with "Kölner" or "Bayern" and it works just the same.

These examples only show that I'm old. Football fans are much more creative and come up with new chants every season.
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I also like the ing fans sing to the opposing fans, particularly fans known for sining who go quiet when they're losing. Again to the tune of Guantamarera

"You only sing when you're winning
Sing when you're winning
You only sing when you're winning"
For those playing across the pond: the coal mining industry in Britain collapsed in the eighties causing ongoing trouble in mining communities. Both Barnsley and Sheffield are in Yorkshire which used to have many coal mines but the economy of Barnsley relied more on coal (Sheffield was and still is steel). I don't actually do football so I can't remember which of the two rival Sheffield clubs this was.

So a mate told me that when his Sheffield club played Barnsley they made the opposing supporters apoplectic with the chant "You only sing when you're mining..."

A quick google tells me that this is better known as a chant against Cardiff.

Also I can't believe no one has mentioned the anti Liverpool song "You'll never walk again"

Then there's The Pet Shop Boys "Go West" adopted by many teams bastardised by opposing fans to feature notorious serial killer Fred West

"Fred West he don't give a f*ck..

Fred West he just cuts them up..

Fred West where did they go...

Fred West under the patio.."
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For odd: AFC AJAX Amsterdam used to have a song: “een vakkie vol met Joden”. ( “a section full of Jews”) as self-identifier. Also a chant which would translate as “Jews, Jews, Jews - we will be the champions”. Typically, the overwhelmingly large majority of those singing it would not, traditionally, be regarded as Jewish.
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It's a tossup whether this is better suited to Cafe Society or The Game Room, but I'm going to send it to The Game Room.

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For an odd football song, there's Chelsea FC's celery song:
Celery, Celery,
If she don't cum,
I'll tickle her bum,
With a stalk of celery...
https://www.fanchants.com/football-s...chants/celery/

"She'll be Coming Round the Mountain" is a popular tune for improvised songs. My favourite version was an anti-Chelsea one:
"If it wasn't for the Russian you'd be Leeds"
(The Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich had just bought the struggling Chelsea FC, while Chelsea's chairman had ties to Leeds FC who had just been relegated.

As for end-of match songs, there's
"You're not singing,
You're not singing,
You're not singing anymore!"
aimed by the winning side supporters at the rival supporters.
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As for end-of match songs, there's
"You're not singing,
You're not singing,
You're not singing anymore!"
aimed by the winning side supporters at the rival supporters.
That's more for the five minutes after a goal which suddenly shuts the opposition fans up; it's usually because their team is now behind but it could also be an equaliser. You don't hear it at the end of a game unless there's a very late goal.
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My favourite manages to be both self-deprecating, and insulting to the opposition. Sung to the chorus of Sloop John B

We lose every week
We lose every wee-ee-eek
You're nothing special
We lose every week
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One of the more robust was Man Utd's ode to their well-liked South Korean player Park Ji-sung. Of course, it's actually more of a dig at their Liverpudlian rivals



(to the tune Lord of the Dance)
Another one was -

Quote:
He shoots!
He scores!
He eats your Labradors
Ji-sung Park, Ji-sung Park
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A-propos the Guantanamera-tuned chant 'There's only one Dah-Dah Da-da'.......(any player with two syllables in first and last name).

After a well-known Scottish International Goalkeeper, Andy Goram, admitted he had a very mild form of schizophrenia, opposition fans immediately started chanting 'Two Andy Gorams, there's only two Andy Gorams'.
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(you'll never walk alone/Liverpool FC),
This song took on a huge amount of meaning after the Hillsborough disaster in 1985, where 96 people died and 766 people were injured. I have never have a dry eye when I hear this song by a soccer crowd. It is sung in honour of those people.

In Australia all football (AFL) clubs have a song that is sung when your team wins.
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This song took on a huge amount of meaning after the Hillsborough disaster in 1985, where 96 people died and 766 people were injured.
1989. Heysel and Bradford were in 1985.
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Roughly a decade or so ago, Newcastle United had a defender called Habib Beye:
“Monday, Tuesday, Habib Beye. Wednesday, Thursday, Habib Beye...”
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After a well-known Scottish International Goalkeeper, Andy Goram, admitted he had a very mild form of schizophrenia, opposition fans immediately started chanting 'Two Andy Gorams, there's only two Andy Gorams'.
I'd forgotten about that one, genius.

Don't know if it has already been linked to but here are some corkers.
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While waiting to be taken off a sinking RN ship during the Falklands war, I understand the crew sang "Always Look At The Bright Side Of Life".

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If life seems jolly rotten There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing
When you're feeling in the dumps don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing
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