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Old 08-07-2019, 05:04 PM
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Little things that briefly take you out of a movie:


For me...old movie stunts that obviously didn't have a lot of thought beyond "You'll be fine. ROLLEM!!"

I don't mean old old old stunts like Keaton. Those are supposed to make your jaw drop. But just little things. I can't really think of any examples right now, but I definitely remember seeing some. I guess ones like Eli Wallach nearly getting his head sheared off by a train in The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Though in that case, I heard about it before seeing it.
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:23 PM
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Like Tom Hardy hanging from the vehicle in Mad Max Fury Road?

Or most of Fury Road.

Here it is without the digital effects. It's almost more intense when you see what was real.
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:41 PM
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A cameo by a famous face will do it for me.

Example: in the not-that-good Jackie Chan version of Around the World in 80 Days they suddenly come across a Turkish Sultan played by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Or, in the highly enjoyable film Stardust, the pilot of the dirigible is Robert DeNiro (who is, for some reason, a very campy gay character).
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A cameo by a famous face will do it for me.
I remember being totally immersed watching Gandhi when all of a sudden, here comes Candice Bergen in an Indian slum. It was like a bucket of cold water.

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I remember being totally immersed watching Gandhi when all of a sudden, here comes Candice Bergen in an Indian slum. It was like a bucket of cold water.
Candice Bergen played Mother Teresa?!?
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Candice Bergen played Mother Teresa?!?
She played Margaret Bourke-White, the photographer who took the photo of Gandhi at his spinning wheel.

Not sure why this would be a problem. Okay, you recognize the actress, but Bourne-White was white, blonde and, in that era, young, even if not as stunning as Bergen. I wouldn't say Bergen was miscast or that the character's inclusion was gratuitous.
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:20 AM
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She played Margaret Bourke-White, the photographer who took the photo of Gandhi at his spinning wheel.

... Bourne-White was white, blonde and, in that era, young, even if not as stunning as Bergen.
I could make a Seinfeld joke here, but I'll refrain for now.
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She played Margaret Bourke-White, the photographer who took the photo of Gandhi at his spinning wheel.

Not sure why this would be a problem. Okay, you recognize the actress, but Bourne-White was white, blonde and, in that era, young, even if not as stunning as Bergen. I wouldn't say Bergen was miscast or that the character's inclusion was gratuitous.
First, most of the pictures I find of her show her as a brunette.

Second, even if she was blonde, she was not an especially important character, so they could have used a no-name actress that didn't immediately make you think, "Hollywood." Tom Cruise is about the same height as Kingsley, but that doesn't mean he would have been a good choice for the role.

If she wasn't a problem for you, great. She was so jarring to me that I thought of her a millisecond after reading the title of this thread, 30 years later. Different strokes.

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A cameo by a famous face will do it for me.
Sigourney Weaver turning up in Doc Martin.
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The Wilhelm Scream.
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:53 PM
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Continuity errors, and production artifacts (like microphone heads) that wind up in the shot.

My continuity error example: the Paul Newman movie Nobody's Fool. In that film, it's winter, and Newman plays a snowplow driver. There's a scene with him and Melanie Griffith, as he's preparing to head out of the house. As Newman delivers a line, he puts on one glove, then the other. There's a cut to a shot of Griffith as she delivers her line, then it cuts back to Newman...who delivers his next line as he puts on one glove, then then other.

When I first watched the film, probably on VHS, I stopped the tape. "Did I just see what I thought I saw?" I felt compelled to rewind, and watch again, just to make sure.
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Fifty-star US flags in anything set before 1959. Larry Hagman had one in his office in The Eagle Has Landed, and all of a sudden I wasn't in World War II any more. (Even worse, but on TV and not in a movie, there was one in Margot Kidder's bar in the James Garner series Nichols, set around 1914.)

Anachronistic technology, like a young George Patton riding an M3 Stuart 40 years before they were developed. Also, things like Shermans being substituted for Panthers with only a coat of paint used to disguise them.

Actors doing either bad or totally inappropriate accents. (This does not apply to Brits or Americans playing ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, et cetera, since we know everything is in translation anyway.)

Corollary to the above: bad translations of foreign dialogue, sometimes done for more "dramatic" effect (like "I am the sword of Almighty God" instead of "I'm your worst nightmare").

I know that bird calls can completely ruin the illusion of being in another land and/or time for those familiar with them. So can inappropriate music, dialogue, costuming, props and so on (like seeing white sugar cubes served with tea in Pirates of the Caribbean).
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Somebody working the action of a firearm to be threatening and no round is ejected. So the action movie hero has been running around, frequently in a firefight that's been ongoing, with an empty chamber. I always find myself expecting the person threatened to laugh instead.
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When scientists in movies set in current times refer to ideas or theories that have long since been shown to be wrong

E.G. in the movie Lucy when Morgan Freeman's character brings up the old idea that humans only use ten percent of their brain
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:53 AM
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Somebody working the action of a firearm to be threatening and no round is ejected. So the action movie hero has been running around, frequently in a firefight that's been ongoing, with an empty chamber. I always find myself expecting the person threatened to laugh instead.
Yeah, firearm use is a real peeve of mine. Okay, you're holding someone at gunpoint. "Give me the information." "No." Gun holder jacks in a round. So you were threatening someone with an unloaded gun?

Firearm noises that are just wrong. I saw one were there was a racking noise inserted for someone with a double-barreled shotgun. Guns that make cocking/racking noises whenever someone moves the weapon.

There was a war movie where M-16s were used. One guy is firing like mad. Then the camera angle reveals that the bolt is locked back. Yet he continues firing.

The worst one was where someone was supposed to kill a bunch of horses, all standing side by side. The guy pulls out his 1911A1 (a semi-auto for those who don't know), jacks the slide and shoots the first horse; moves over, jacks the slide and shoots the second horse; moves over, jacks the slide and shoots the third horse; moves over, repeats.

Another trite usage: "Look at me!" "I SAID LOOK AT ME!!"
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The Wilhelm Scream.
This. I've never understood what the big deal is, and more specifically, why the trivia section of IMDB has to point out exactly when it is used in a movie.
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The Wilhelm Scream.
It only bothers my wife now because I always point it out. Justice though, I feel, for her with songs and ‘cowbell’
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Added sound effects that are 1) predictable and 2) over the top.

Examples:

Added whooshing noises, such as when some karate dude is slicing his hands through the air - whoosh, whoosh.

Another one - the extremely loud ker-chunk when someone turns on the lights in a stadium, warehouse, or similar structure - ker-chunk!


mmm
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Added sound effects that are 1) predictable and 2) over the top.

Examples:

Added whooshing noises, such as when some karate dude is slicing his hands through the air - whoosh, whoosh.
Also, swords that go "schwing!" when you pull them from their scabbard are dumb. Swords that go "schwing!" when you swing them through the air are inexcusable.

My favorite example of the latter was in Daredevil's second season, when the titular blind superhero is fighting undead ninjas, and is defenseless against them because he can't hear their heartbeats! I'm like, "Dude, just listen for their swords! Every time they swing one, it sounds like they're operating a leaf blower!"
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Also, swords that go "schwing!" when you pull them from their scabbard are dumb. Swords that go "schwing!" when you swing them through the air are inexcusable.
So are rifles (or any other piece of military equipment) that rattle when soldiers march.

"What's that noise, maggot? You not takin' proper care of your gear, maggot? Drop and give me 200 pushups NOW, maggot!"
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Added sound effects that are 1) predictable and 2) over the top.

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Another one - the extremely loud ker-chunk when someone turns on the lights in a stadium, warehouse, or similar structure - ker-chunk!


mmm
What sound do you think they make?
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What sound do you think they make?
(Turning on lights in a warehouse, etc.)

Sounds like turning circuit breakers on or off. click...click..click...click... I used to work in a 2,000 foot industrial space, and at the end of the day, five clicks followed by the squeak and clank of closing the door on the breaker panel, and the lights were out. No big ka-WHUNK, and no mechanized chack-chack-chack-chack-chack as the lights are sequenced on or off down the length of the building.


What pulls me out of a story is wrong telephones. Things like a phone with modular plugs in the 50s or as happened in Rocketman, phones on the wrong continent. As I wrote in the Goofs section at IMDB: "The phone next to the bed at Mama Cass' house is British - a GPO 722, which would not work in the US as among other things, it has the wrong kind of plug."
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Added sound effects that are 1) predictable and 2) over the top.

Examples:

Added whooshing noises, such as when some karate dude is slicing his hands through the air - whoosh, whoosh.

(cut)

mmm
This alone makes Iron Chef America unwatchable. Among other godawful cliches.
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Just saw the new film Hobbs and Shaw last night and for a movie that was completely over the top ridiculous and implausible (a motorcycle that can break down into multiple sections for the sole purpose to limbo under things) you’d think you’d be able to roll with it and nothing they could put on the screen would take you out of the moment.
Except.... before one of the final battle scenes the good guys are in formation in a large field in Hawaii in the middle of the night. Bad guys arrive in the dark and trigger a bunch of fireworks to launch into the night sky. Still the dead of night they face off and exchange monologues before a good guy ignites a firewall ala Game of Thrones to surround the baddies. Good guys holler and charge and as they clash...
it suddenly becomes the middle of the afternoon? Suns out, blue skies, etc.
It was so jarring I totally lost focus of the action and was just watching the background light change.
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The Wilhelm Scream.
^This. They need to stop this. It's not funny, or insider, it's distracting.

For me, it's when they hang up the phone without saying "Bye".

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The Wilhelm Scream.
YES. The god damned Wilhelm scream.

The only time I thought it was clever was in one of the Transformers movies--one of the tiny smart ass bots gets smacked and the Wilhelm scream is played at like 2x or 3x speed. Super fast and high pitched. Turns out, once you've become sensitized to it you can hear it played backward in the background noise of a heavy metal concert.
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Hawk the Slayer is a painfully low-budget, extremely cheesy movie that shamelessly rips off J.R.R. Tolkien, Robert E. Howard, and every D&D game you ever played in junior high school. That did not bother me at all.

The elf was clad in buckskin clothes. Apparently, they could not afford to buy him a pair of moccasins. He wore penny loafers. That bothered me a lot.



Peter Jackson's version of King Kong spends much of the film on an uncharted island populated by dinosaurs, giant arthropods, and a 40-foot-tall ape. That did not bother me at all.

Naomi Watts spends a long time running around New York in the middle of winter, on a night cold enough to make several inches of ice on the pond in Central Park, wearing a strapless evening gown, and shows no sign of hypothermia. That bothered me a lot.
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Almost anything with trained dogs. They bark on cue looking happily expectant for the reward, when they are supposed to be barking threateningly; in a touching reunion scene they allow the boy to pet them while looking at their handler off screen.

Horses are even worse. Nobody gallops their horses everywhere unless they want them to drop down dead. Covering distance in a hurry is accomplished mainly at a trot, an uncomfortable uncinematic gait, unless you've got relay horses waiting in a few miles (like the Pony Express). If you are spending days in the saddle going someplace you will be almost entirely walking.
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One that always bugs me is when there's a car chase scene and you can see the skid marks on the asphalt from rehearsals or previous takes. I imagine it's hard (if even possible) to clean the rubber off the road, but I always wondered if maybe they could do the practice runs a hundred feet away.

For the life of me, I can't find it online, but a few days ago I was watching Smokey and the Bandit and noticed a good example of it. When he saw Sally Field in the middle of the road he locked up his wheels and skidded to a stop (or made a u-turn, or peeled out, I don't remember) and you could see 5 or 6 other sets of skid marks.
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One that always bugs me is when there's a car chase scene and you can see the skid marks on the asphalt from rehearsals or previous takes. I imagine it's hard (if even possible) to clean the rubber off the road, but I always wondered if maybe they could do the practice runs a hundred feet away.
Another car chase related one: When they dub in the sound of squealing tires, but the cars are on a dirt road. I can't think of any specific examples, but I know I've seen it in a few 1960s-70s era movies.

I used to be this way with the unrealistic computer interfaces you always see in movies, but I have come to accept that the purpose of computer screens in movies is to show the audience what's going on, not to be realistic.
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One that always bugs me is when there's a car chase scene and you can see the skid marks on the asphalt from rehearsals or previous takes. I imagine it's hard (if even possible) to clean the rubber off the road, but I always wondered if maybe they could do the practice runs a hundred feet away.

For the life of me, I can't find it online, but a few days ago I was watching Smokey and the Bandit and noticed a good example of it. When he saw Sally Field in the middle of the road he locked up his wheels and skidded to a stop (or made a u-turn, or peeled out, I don't remember) and you could see 5 or 6 other sets of skid marks.
That reminded me of the famous car chase in Bullitt, and how the bad guys' car (a Dodge Charger) keeps losing hubcaps, and seems to keep regenerating them. IIRC, it loses like six hubcaps over the course of the scene.

Edit: apparently, it was actually eight hubcaps.

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That reminded me of the famous car chase in Bullitt, and how the bad guys' car (a Dodge Charger) keeps losing hubcaps, and seems to keep regenerating them. IIRC, it loses like six hubcaps over the course of the scene.

Edit: apparently, it was actually eight hubcaps.
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That reminded me of the famous car chase in Bullitt, and how the bad guys' car (a Dodge Charger) keeps losing hubcaps, and seems to keep regenerating them. IIRC, it loses like six hubcaps over the course of the scene.

Edit: apparently, it was actually eight hubcaps.
And there are several obvious skidmarks from practice runs prior to filming the shots.
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Don't forget the green Volkswagen parked everywhere.
This one is more personal, but in Captain America: Winter Soldier there is a red Hyundai Santa Fe that shows up in about half a dozen different shots. I notice it because that's what I drove for 15 years. So I'd say "Hey, there's my car!" And then again a few minutes later, and half an hour later...
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That reminded me of the famous car chase in Bullitt, and how the bad guys' car (a Dodge Charger) keeps losing hubcaps, and seems to keep regenerating them. IIRC, it loses like six hubcaps over the course of the scene.

Edit: apparently, it was actually eight hubcaps.
I overlooked this one earlier but since I've sort of got a Bay Area theme going in this thread, the chase route was... creative. The two cars would round a corner and straighten out two miles away.
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This one probably applies more to TV than movies, but older special effects that may have looked convincing enough on a small screen in standard definition, but look obviously fake when you see them on a bigger screen and in HD. For example I rewatched the Stephen King miniseries The Langoliers (1995) on Netflix a few years ago, and the CGI effects looked like something out of a 1990s video game.
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This one probably applies more to TV than movies, but older special effects that may have looked convincing enough on a small screen in standard definition, but look obviously fake when you see them on a bigger screen and in HD. For example I rewatched the Stephen King miniseries The Langoliers (1995) on Netflix a few years ago, and the CGI effects looked like something out of a 1990s video game.
I saw this on a regular-sized 4:3 ratio TV. The CGI effects looked like that then, too.
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When characters traveling in a vehicle have an intense conversation, and the driver spends minutes at a time looking at the person in the passenger seat, with nary a glance at the road ahead.

Yeah, I know you're on a process trailer and not actually driving. Fake! LOOK AT THE DANG ROAD!!!
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When characters traveling in a vehicle have an intense conversation, and the driver spends minutes at a time looking at the person in the passenger seat, with nary a glance at the road ahead.

Yeah, I know you're on a process trailer and not actually driving. Fake! LOOK AT THE DANG ROAD!!!
Corollary: The camera switches POV from the driver to the passenger and back, and their windows go from being open to closed and back again ad infinitum. This happened all the time whenever Jim had someone with him in his Pontiac on The Rockford Files.
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Corollary: The camera switches POV from the driver to the passenger and back, and their windows go from being open to closed and back again ad infinitum. This happened all the time whenever Jim had someone with him in his Pontiac on The Rockford Files.
Another driving one: when the driver is talking to the passenger and turns their head to face them, and doesn't look back at the road for far longer than feels normal. When it results in some type of accident, I understand, but no competent driver goes 10 or 15 seconds without at least glancing forward.
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Another driving one: when the driver is talking to the passenger and turns their head to face them, and doesn't look back at the road for far longer than feels normal. When it results in some type of accident, I understand, but no competent driver goes 10 or 15 seconds without at least glancing forward.
Isn't that what I said?
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Corollary: The camera switches POV from the driver to the passenger and back, and their windows go from being open to closed and back again ad infinitum. This happened all the time whenever Jim had someone with him in his Pontiac on The Rockford Files.
In the realm of retconning: it's kind of funny to imagine reasons why the characters would be, with lightning rapidity, raising and lowering the windows repeatedly---with neither of them ever referring to the fact at all.

(Well, not terribly funny. More 'bizarre,' I'll concede.)
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When characters traveling in a vehicle have an intense conversation, and the driver spends minutes at a time looking at the person in the passenger seat, with nary a glance at the road ahead.

Yeah, I know you're on a process trailer and not actually driving. Fake! LOOK AT THE DANG ROAD!!!
Or when they don't even have a rear view mirror in the middle of the windshield.
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Phones...look, I can get past the idea that no one ever, ever says 'bye' when on the phone in a movie or on TV, they just hang up What bugs me is when someone hangs up and there's a dial tone...on a cell phone.
I assume they're doing it to make the other person hanging up sound more dramatic, but a simple beep (and the character looking at their phone) would make a lot more sense. Those foley artists can't all be so old they don't understand how cell phones work.
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When the phone rings in a police station or a newsroom, you just know the authority figure who picks it up is going to identify themselves with their last name, pause, and say "What?!?"

(I had to do this once in a movie I was in. I knew what my line would be even before I was shown the script. It's the kind of thing you can play one of those beer-sipping games with when you're watching TCM.)
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It seems as though they hate seatbelts for some reason. It takes me right out because it goes against deeply imprinted habit. Is there a legitimate practical reason for it?

Also, not because it is unrealistic but just because it’s so unhealthy of a habit, is when characters non chalantly carry backpacks on one shoulder.

Finally, just from over use, people walking into the street and getting hit by a bus. Especially in the later years, when they are in the street long enough to make a speech but somehow not long enough for the bus to stop.
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It seems as though they hate seatbelts for some reason. It takes me right out because it goes against deeply imprinted habit. Is there a legitimate practical reason for it?
Gads, Clint Eastwood's recent film, The Mule. The plot is he gets to transporting narcotics across the US as he's never had a traffic ticket, and must be such a safe driver he's not going to get pulled over.

Not once was he ever shown wearing a seatbelt. I don't think there's a single state left that won't pull you over and ticket you for driving without wearing one.
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The thing that frosts my gourd the most (sorry, I can't help it, I'm an aviation buff) is when a movie set in the WWI time frame tries to show either German or Allied aircraft by making a few cosmetic changes to a DeHaviland Tiger Moth biplane, and then applying the appropriate insignia to the plane. The problem is that there is no way in God's green earth that a Tiger Moth can be made to look like anything except a Tiger Moth. Even as good a movie as "Lawrence of Arabia" fell into that trap.

And another is showing a WWII movie in the 1941 time frame, and hoping that the viewers will not notice that they are using a movie clip of a Grumman Hellcat to portray a Grumman Wildcat.

Maybe with the improvements in CGI this will become less of a problem.

And I remember in "Flyboys", they even got the CGI wrong. They showed all the WWI fighters as powered by a radial engines, while most of them in fact used rotary engines. Vast difference.
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When the phone rings in a police station or a newsroom, you just know the authority figure who picks it up is going to identify themselves with their last name, pause, and say "What?!?"
More dialogue you can see coming a mile away:

"You are either very brave ... or very foolish."
"Perhaps ... a little of both."

"Be careful! Don't hit *the girl*!"

"What have you done with her?"
"Nothing ... yet."

"I'll see to it tomorrow."
"But ... that'll be too late!"
"What do you mean by that?!?"
"Oh ... nothing...."
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Mundane unrealistic things in unrealistic sci-fi movies.

Battleship:
Alien invasion vs USS Missouri museum ship=okay.
Screw-up criminal becomes a US Naval officer: Um, no.

Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter:
Ninja Abe vs Vampires=okay.
Walking silver ammo to Gettysburg overnight: Um, no.
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