Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-10-2019, 09:33 AM
Annie-Xmas is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 56,492

Former Red Sox slugger David Ortiz shot in back and hospitalized


Story here

David Ortiz, known as "Big Papi," was a first baseman and designated hitter who made his Major League Baseball debut in 1997 and played 20 seasons before retiring in 2016. While Ortiz's Major League career began with the Minnesota Twins, he was best known for his 14 seasons in Boston with the Red Sox.

He is in stable condition, after having surgery.

What a day for Boston sports fans.

Good luck to Ortiz.
  #2  
Old 06-10-2019, 10:26 AM
Barkis is Willin' is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,466
There is surveillance video of the shooting. Scary stuff, man. Multiple people have been detained. Sounds like Papi is out of danger, so that's a relief.
  #3  
Old 06-10-2019, 06:28 PM
Spiderman's Avatar
Spiderman is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: somewhere East of there
Posts: 11,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ortiz's rep Leo Lopez
"It was an act of hired killer (...) if we had known that there was a dangerous situation, he would not have been there at that moment
Ya think?
  #4  
Old 06-11-2019, 08:26 AM
ElvisL1ves is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: The land of the mouse
Posts: 50,549
There are unsubstantiated stories that the hit was ordered by a Dominican drug boss in retaliation for Papi's messing with one of his women, and that there are armed guards in his Boston hospital room. Just sayin'.
  #5  
Old 06-11-2019, 08:56 AM
RickJay is offline
Charter Jays Fan
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Oakville, Canada
Posts: 41,606
"Unsubstantiated."
__________________
Providing useless posts since 1999!
  #6  
Old 06-11-2019, 10:01 AM
Telemark's Avatar
Telemark is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Just outside of Titletown
Posts: 22,985
Apparently the Red Sox hired an air ambulance and set it down to DR to fly Papi back to Boston for medical care at Mass General.
  #7  
Old 06-11-2019, 10:34 AM
cochrane is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Nekkid Pueblo
Posts: 22,212
Good for the Red Sox for stepping up and taking care of their own. I wish Papi a speedy recovery.
  #8  
Old 06-11-2019, 11:01 AM
TriPolar is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: rhode island
Posts: 40,685
We're all pulling for you Big Papi.
  #9  
Old 06-11-2019, 12:59 PM
Labtrash's Avatar
Labtrash is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Murrells Inlet, SC
Posts: 3,804
Gee, I wonder if Big Papi will make some sort of appearance at Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Wednesday - via video, maybe?

That should light the place right up.
__________________
---remainder of post deleted. All is well...move along.
  #10  
Old 06-15-2019, 12:38 AM
Mike Mabes is online now
Guest
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 331
Saw a report somewhere today, can't remember where, the gunman says he got the wrong guy. Whoever put him up to it only described what the target was wearing. Makes sense, I really find it hard to belive there was a hit put out on Papi. Maybe it was the Steinbrenners, serving up a cold dish of revenge.
  #11  
Old 06-15-2019, 07:25 AM
Blank Slate's Avatar
Blank Slate is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,468
Perhaps he never paid his dealer.
  #12  
Old 06-20-2019, 10:43 AM
Annie-Xmas is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 56,492
Update: Big Papi was not the intended target.

Apparently, Ortiz's friend, Sixto David Fernandez, who was sitting at the same table was supposed to be taken out. Total fuck-up.

If this was drug-related, that shooter better hope he goes to prison. If he gets on the street, he'll be a dead man.
  #13  
Old 06-20-2019, 01:22 PM
Barkis is Willin' is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,466
"...Ortiz and Fernandez were dressed similarly on the night of the incident, leading to a case of mistaken identity.”

Yeah, I don't think I'm buying this. There are a lot of rumors out there about why Ortiz was targeted, not saying I believe any of those, either. But mistaken identity? David Ortiz? In the Dominican Republic? It stinks.
  #14  
Old 06-20-2019, 01:27 PM
ElvisL1ves is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: The land of the mouse
Posts: 50,549
From the back, though ...
  #15  
Old 08-20-2019, 12:23 PM
JohnT's Avatar
JohnT is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 23,558
This case may be expanding. The following two things happened in the past hour:

1. Octavio Dotel and Luis Castillo just got arrested for connections to a narcotrafficker:

https://twitter.com/ListinDiario/sta...449819137?s=19

(In Spanish, but this is the original report)

English story here: https://www.12up.com/posts/breaking-...r-01djqwy291mw

2. The SI reporter who is working this story just tweeted:

"BIG NEWS out of Dominican Republic. Cesar El Abusador, who I wrote about (and DM'd) as rumored to be behind the Ortiz shooting, is being sought by prosecutors, DEA & FBI, as the top narco in the country. Also says he used MLB players to launder money"

https://t.co/HboZ6HGHFL

Last edited by JohnT; 08-20-2019 at 12:25 PM.
  #16  
Old 08-20-2019, 12:27 PM
JohnT's Avatar
JohnT is online now
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 23,558
THIS LUIS CASTILLO, not the current Cincinnati Red:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...astilu01.shtml
  #17  
Old 08-20-2019, 08:59 PM
Robot Arm is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Medford, MA
Posts: 23,551
I never got around to asking this before. I remember hearing that Ortiz was back in the U.S. very shortly after the shooting, but I never heard how he got here. I would think it would be difficult to transport someone who was so gravely injured. Is that sort of transport done routinely, and are there planes specially equipped for it? And is medical care so much better in the U.S. that it's worth taking the risk of moving someone here very soon after being shot?
  #18  
Old 08-20-2019, 10:12 PM
KarlGauss's Avatar
KarlGauss is offline
Entangled
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Between pole and tropic
Posts: 8,452
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Arm View Post
I never got around to asking this before. I remember hearing that Ortiz was back in the U.S. very shortly after the shooting, but I never heard how he got here. I would think it would be difficult to transport someone who was so gravely injured. Is that sort of transport done routinely, and are there planes specially equipped for it? And is medical care so much better in the U.S. that it's worth taking the risk of moving someone here very soon after being shot?
The Red Sox organization ferried him back by 'air ambulance' to the Massachusetts General Hospital (pretty much the best hospital in the US).

Last edited by KarlGauss; 08-20-2019 at 10:13 PM.
  #19  
Old 08-20-2019, 10:12 PM
Zakalwe's Avatar
Zakalwe is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 4,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Arm View Post
I never got around to asking this before. I remember hearing that Ortiz was back in the U.S. very shortly after the shooting, but I never heard how he got here. I would think it would be difficult to transport someone who was so gravely injured. Is that sort of transport done routinely, and are there planes specially equipped for it? And is medical care so much better in the U.S. that it's worth taking the risk of moving someone here very soon after being shot?
Answered in Post #6 in this thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telemark View Post
Apparently the Red Sox hired an air ambulance and set it down to DR to fly Papi back to Boston for medical care at Mass General.
So:
1. He got to the US by air ambulance hired by the Red Sox.
2. As the name "air ambulance" implies, yes, there are special planes equipped for transporting ill/injured passengers. They are generally staffed by trained medical personnel and equipped with specialized equipment like an ambulance, but are usually bigger so they have more room for 'stuff'.
3. I would say that the Red Sox certainly thought so and apparently, Ortiz's family agreed with them. While we can't argue the negative (what would have happened if he had stayed), his survival suggests that, at a minimum, they weren't wrong to take the risk.
  #20  
Old 08-20-2019, 10:42 PM
Robot Arm is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Medford, MA
Posts: 23,551
Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlGauss View Post
The Red Sox organization ferried him back by 'air ambulance' to the Massachusetts General Hospital (pretty much the best hospital in the US).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
Answered in Post #6 in this thread:

So:
1. He got to the US by air ambulance hired by the Red Sox.
2. As the name "air ambulance" implies, yes, there are special planes equipped for transporting ill/injured passengers. They are generally staffed by trained medical personnel and equipped with specialized equipment like an ambulance, but are usually bigger so they have more room for 'stuff'.
3. I would say that the Red Sox certainly thought so and apparently, Ortiz's family agreed with them. While we can't argue the negative (what would have happened if he had stayed), his survival suggests that, at a minimum, they weren't wrong to take the risk.
Thanks, both.

I wonder how many planes like that there are in the world. It doesn't seem like there'd be much demand for them at the prices they must charge. I wonder if it's convertible to cargo, or some other use, when it's not needed as an air ambulance.
  #21  
Old 09-10-2019, 09:09 AM
Annie-Xmas is offline
Charter Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 56,492
Good news of the day: David Ortiz Throws Out First Pitch At Fenway Park

Bad news of the day: Yankees beat Red Sox, knocking them out of the division race.

Last edited by Annie-Xmas; 09-10-2019 at 09:09 AM.
  #22  
Old 09-10-2019, 09:57 AM
mhendo is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 25,431
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annie-Xmas View Post
Good news of the day: David Ortiz Throws Out First Pitch At Fenway Park

Bad news of the day: Yankees beat Red Sox, knocking them out of the division race.
Glad he's up and about.

To be fair, the Red Sox were out of the division race well before last night. This game might have eliminated them mathematically, but realistically they were eliminated quite a while ago. For the Red Sox to win the division this year would have required the Yankees to collapse on a scale even greater than Boston's historical (and hysterical) 2011 debacle.

Last edited by mhendo; 09-10-2019 at 09:58 AM.
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Send questions for Cecil Adams to: cecil@straightdope.com

Send comments about this website to: webmaster@straightdope.com

Terms of Use / Privacy Policy

Advertise on the Straight Dope!
(Your direct line to thousands of the smartest, hippest people on the planet, plus a few total dipsticks.)

Copyright 2019 STM Reader, LLC.

 
Copyright © 2017