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Old 08-28-2019, 07:56 AM
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I've notified Retro as well.
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Old 08-28-2019, 08:09 AM
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I added a round 5 pick for me as well.
I only count 4 picks for you: 26 players on roster - 5 cuts = 21 players, needing to draft 4 to get back to 25.


Here's the updated list for the new page:



1.01 Petey - Josh Jacobs, RB, Oak
1.02 Beef - David Montgomery, RB, Chi
1.03 Justin - Miles Sanders, RB, Phi
1.04 Overly - Darrell Henderson, RB, LAR
1.05 Justin - Kyler Murray, QB, Arz
1.06 Omni - Justice Hill, WR, Bal
1.07 Gaffer - N'Keal Harry, WR, NE
1.08 Retro -
1.09 RNATB -
1.10 Hamlet -
1.11 dale -
1.12 Ellis -

2.01 Petey -
2.02 Beef -
2.03 Justin -
2.04 Overly -
2.05 dale -
2.06 Omni -
2.07 Gaffer -
2.08 Retro -
2.09 RNATB -
2.10 Hamlet -
2.11 RNATB -
2.12 Ellis -

3.01 Petey -
3.02 Beef -
3.03 dale -
3.04 Overly -
3.05 Jules -
3.06 Omni -
3.07 Gaffer -
3.08 Retro -
3.09 Jules -
3.11 Jules -
3.12 Ellis -

4.01 Petey -
4.02 Beef -
4.04 dale -
4.05 dale -
4.06 Omni -
4.07 Gaffer -
4.11 Jules -

5.06 Omni -
5.11 Jules -

6.06 Omni -
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Old 08-28-2019, 08:21 AM
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You're right, I had Guice on IR. Thanks.
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:32 PM
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I know you all probably have seen this in other threads, but...

If anyone happens to be interested, we have a few spots open in the big league. It drafts next week, Wednesday the 4th at 8pm eastern. You have to attend the draft - because we have 20 players and yahoo's automatic values are meant for 12 players, the auto-drafter simply can't build a viable team.

But it's a fun league - with how much bigger it is than normal you have more strategies/difficult decisions you can use in the (auction) draft. And talent is spread much thinner, so you're more rewarded for finding breakout players and sneaky good values.

If you can make the draft and you're interested in trying it this year, send me a PM or post over in that thread.
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:37 PM
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1.08 Darwin Thompson, RB, Chiefs


A bit of a reach, but I need RB insurance for Gordon and Elliott. I don't think its a stretch that their other two RB are iffy, so with that offence he could put up some points.
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Old 08-28-2019, 04:53 PM
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RNATB is up, but hasn't been on since 5am (pacific). Did you send him a PM?
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Old 08-28-2019, 06:30 PM
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PM was sent.
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:05 AM
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I went through and compiled a list of the cuts, mostly for my own reference, but it's here if anyone's interested. Please let me know if there are errors/omissions.

SPOILER:

Nick Foles Jax - QB
Blake Bortles, QB, LAR
Eli Manning, QB, NYG
Tyrod Taylor LAC - QB
Alex Smith Was - QB
Kyle Lauletta, QB, NYG
Sam Bradford Ari - QB

T.J. Yeldon, RB, Buf
D'Onta Foreman Ind - RB
Elijah McGuire, RB, NYJ
C.J. Anderson Det - RB
Rex Burkhead NE - RB
Josh Adams, RB, Phi
Kenneth Dixon Bal - RB
Spencer Ware Ind - RB
Rod Smith NYG - RB
Marshawn Lynch Oak - RB
LeGarrette Blount Det - RB
Chris Ivory Buf - RB
Corey Grant GB - RB
Bilal Powell, RB, NYJ
Zach Zenner Det - RB
Chris Warren III Oak - RB
Wendell Smallwood Phi - RB
Raheem Mostert SF - RB
Javorius Allen NO - RB

David Moore Sea - WR
Taywan Taylor Ten - WR
Doug Baldwin Sea - WR
Chris Hogan, WR, Car
Danny Amendola, WR, Det
Keke Coutee Hou - WR
Michael Crabtree Ari - WR
J'Mon Moore GB - WR
Jordan Matthews, WR, SF
Cameron Meredith, WR, NE
Kevin White Ari - WR
Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Chi
Pierre Garcon SF - WR
Jermaine Kearse Det - WR
Jordy Nelson, WR, Oak
Terrelle Pryor Sr., WR, Jax
Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, NO
Kelvin Benjamin KC - WR
Rishard Matthews NO - WR

Mike Gesicki, TE, Mi
Ricky Seals-Jones Ari - TE
Rob Gronkowski NE - TE
Adam Shaheen, TE, Chi
Jake Butt, TE, Den
C.J. Uzomah Cin - TE
Jesse James Det - TE
Antonio Gates LAC - TE
Austin Seferian-Jenkins NE - TE
Tyler Higbee LAR - TE
Vernon Davis Was - TE

Dallas, DEF, Dal
Indianapolis Ind - DEF
San Francisco, DEF, SF
Miami Mia - DEF

Matt Bryant, K, Atl
Cody Parkey Chi - K

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Old 08-29-2019, 02:07 AM
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Thanks for the list. Isaiah Crowell should also be on it - I thought I could stash him on IR but after we discussed it I couldn't, so he's cut.
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Old 08-29-2019, 03:29 AM
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Alright, we're moving along too slowly this year and I may have to start enforcing a timer.

I didn't mention it this year, but in the past we've talked about it - if you think you may be gone for your pick you can send me a PM with a title something like "my next pick" and I won't look at it until and if it's necessary. You can send me a list of ranked players and I'll draft whichever the highest ranked one available is.

If RNATB hasn't picked in another 8 hours or so, I'm going to open it up to the next owner in the draft. RNATB can then come back and make up his pick at any time (but won't be able to draft the player someone else already took once we've moved on - he'll just be on the clock whenever he comes back). After that, we'll start enforcing a 12 hour timer for picks, although if people need more time for some reason they can ask for it and I'm sure it'll be granted for any reasonable circumstances.

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Old 08-29-2019, 06:12 AM
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Alright, we're moving along too slowly this year and I may have to start enforcing a timer.
A little public shaming is always fun...

1.01 Petey - submitted the first overall pick early to a commissioner, A+
1.02 Beef - 2.5 hours, solid A
1.03 Justin - 8 hours, but it was overnight (2:30am to 10:30am) so I'm going B+
1.04 Overly - 15 hours. The delay included a big trade, but still: D-
1.05 Justin - 21 hours. Delay included a big trade, but still: F
1.06 Omni - 3 minutes. A+
1.07 Gaffer - 10.5 hours, but it was overnight (10:30pm to 9am) so a solid B
1.08 Retro - 8 hours, C
1.09 RNATB - been on the clock 15 hours and counting: F

This is going poorly so far, with the notable exceptions of Petey and Omni whose timely picks have been our only saving grace.

I get that Justin has reshaped his entire draft, but 29 hours for his two picks alone is brutal. (He only has 1 more pick to make, meaning the best he can hope for is averaging 10 hours per pick. Ouch.)

Retro and RNATB have hurt us by going extra slow right when slowness was starting to become a problem.

So far, we have been averaging 10 hours per pick, which is terrible.
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Old 08-29-2019, 07:29 AM
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Come on. The time between the 1.05 trade and the pick was like six seconds. Are you really going to ding me for negotiations that didnít even start until right before the trade was made?
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:24 AM
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Sorry guys. I was prepping for the hurricane yesterday and didn't log on. I'm thin at WR, but now really thin at TE, so the pick is TJ Hockenson, TE, Det. I'll PM Hamlet. Depending on the weather, I may have to send a list of potential picks to Beef or something.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:06 AM
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Retro and RNATB have hurt us by going extra slow right when slowness was starting to become a problem.
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I did mention I was in Australia all week, so if a pick was made during downtime I wasn't going to see it right away. Had I not been bored awake by a replay of a cricket match it might have been longer.

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Old 08-29-2019, 10:38 AM
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I gave SenorBeef a list of two guys. RNATB took one of them.

Devin Singletary, RB, Buffalo.

RBs are at a premium apparently, so I guess I'll grab the best one left.

RNATB, you're up again.

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Old 08-29-2019, 10:46 AM
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Yep, fair points all on your individual circumstances. I'm concerned with the overall progress, though.

Last year we started the draft 12 hours earlier (noon Sunday instead of midnight Sunday night) and by that Thursday late afternoon (equivalent to 7 hours from now) we were up to pick 4.03.

By the equivalent to tomorrow night at midnight, there were only 6 picks left in the entire draft.

Looking at it the other way, right now we're on pick 1.11 at noon on Thursday. Last year we were on pick 1.11 Monday night at 10pm.

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Old 08-29-2019, 10:53 AM
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RNATB, you're up again.
I have dale listed as owning pick 1.11. I went back just now to verify and I don't see any trades of that pick, and the OP shows it belonging to dale. (Previously Jules; they traded it last year as part of the Saquon Barkley deal.)
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:19 AM
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Right, I got Jules' second-rounder.
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:50 PM
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:15 PM
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Yikes, that sucks.

Something to keep in mind, we could conceivably do a "live" draft here in the thread like Sunday afternoon or Tuesday night or whenever. Figure if everyone is online and refreshing the thread (or sent in pre-rankings), we could probably knock out the entire draft in an hour or so.
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:29 AM
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Okay. Given exceptional circumstances we can give Dale some time here, but we're going to have to pick up significantly after that. A "live" day is a good idea if need be.

Try to get your research and potential trade talks for the next round of picks done while we wait so we can pick up the pace when we resume.

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Old 08-30-2019, 02:52 AM
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1.01 Petey - Josh Jacobs, RB, OAK
1.02 Beef - David Montgomery, RB, CHI
1.03 Justin - Miles Sanders, RB, PHI
1.04 Overly - Darrell Henderson, RB, LAR
1.05 Justin - Kyler Murray, QB, ARI
1.06 Omni - Justice Hill, WR, BAL
1.07 Gaffer - N'Keal Harry, WR, NE
1.08 Retro - Darwin Thompson, RB, KC
1.09 RNATB - TJ Hockenson, TE, DET
1.10 Hamlet - Devin Singletary, RB, BUF
1.11 dale -
1.12 Ellis -

2.01 Petey -
2.02 Beef -
2.03 Justin -
2.04 Overly -
2.05 dale -
2.06 Omni -
2.07 Gaffer -
2.08 Retro -
2.09 RNATB -
2.10 Hamlet -
2.11 RNATB -
2.12 Ellis -

3.01 Petey -
3.02 Beef -
3.03 dale -
3.04 Overly -
3.05 Jules -
3.06 Omni -
3.07 Gaffer -
3.08 Retro -
3.09 Jules -
3.11 Jules -
3.12 Ellis -

4.01 Petey -
4.02 Beef -
4.04 dale -
4.05 dale -
4.06 Omni -
4.07 Gaffer -
4.11 Jules -

5.06 Omni -
5.11 Jules -

6.06 Omni -
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Old 08-30-2019, 05:09 PM
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Thanks for your patience. My entire department is being eliminated at my company effective January 1 so I have some major life decisions to make. Iím going to get back to focusing on football since thereís nothing else I can do over this Ďholidayí weekend.
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Old 08-30-2019, 05:18 PM
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Sorry to hear that, man. That's rough. Best of luck.
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:03 AM
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Damn. Good luck, man. Are they paying severance at least?

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Old 08-31-2019, 09:58 AM
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Draft pick trade to announce:

Dalej42 receives from Ellis Dee
Pick 1.12
Pick 3.12

Ellis Dee receives from Dalej42
Pick 2.05
Pick 3.03

I’ll be making my picks very soon and we can get back underway. I’ve bought a case of beer and college football starts today so it’s time to focus on football.
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:18 AM
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1.11 Tony Pollard RB-Dallas
1.12 Damien Harris RB-NE
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:35 AM
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I figure I'll update the results to reflect that trade when I pick at 2.05.

I'd love to finish the 2nd round today/tonight if at all possible.

I sent Petey a PM just in case. (Sorry for the extra clutter, Petey!)

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Old 08-31-2019, 11:39 AM
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1.11 Tony Pollard RB-Dallas
1.12 Damien Harris RB-NE
I was shocked that Retro didn't take Pollard. He has Zeke Elliott and, instead of grabbing his backup and likely weekly starter until Zeke comes back, he took Darwin Thompson (who I'm not a fan of) who is a lower drafted, smaller backup. I get that the Chiefs have a much better offense, but Thompson isn't (and may never be) a starter. Weird to me.
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Old 08-31-2019, 12:16 PM
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Our collective RB boner is more severe than usual this year.
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Old 08-31-2019, 12:19 PM
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2.01 DK Metcalf, WR, Sea

I was worried about losing power on Monday, but it looks like the hurricane will miss me.
I will update you if this changes.

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Old 08-31-2019, 12:22 PM
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Damn. I was planning on rolling the dice on Metcalf if he got to me. Pick within an hour.
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Old 08-31-2019, 01:18 PM
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ē Corrected Justice Hill to a RB
ē Entered trade between dale/Ellis

1.01 Petey - Josh Jacobs, RB, OAK
1.02 Beef - David Montgomery, RB, CHI
1.03 Justin - Miles Sanders, RB, PHI
1.04 Overly - Darrell Henderson, RB, LAR
1.05 Justin - Kyler Murray, QB, ARI
1.06 Omni - Justice Hill, RB, BAL
1.07 Gaffer - N'Keal Harry, WR, NE
1.08 Retro - Darwin Thompson, RB, KC
1.09 RNATB - TJ Hockenson, TE, DET
1.10 Hamlet - Devin Singletary, RB, BUF
1.11 dale - Tony Pollard RB-Dallas
1.12 dale - Damien Harris RB-NE

2.01 Petey - DK Metcalf, WR, Sea
2.02 Beef -
2.03 Justin -
2.04 Overly -
2.05 Ellis -
2.06 Omni -
2.07 Gaffer -
2.08 Retro -
2.09 RNATB -
2.10 Hamlet -
2.11 RNATB -
2.12 Ellis -

3.01 Petey -
3.02 Beef -
3.03 Ellis -
3.04 Overly -
3.05 Jules -
3.06 Omni -
3.07 Gaffer -
3.08 Retro -
3.09 Jules -
3.11 Jules -
3.12 dale -

4.01 Petey -
4.02 Beef -
4.04 dale -
4.05 dale -
4.06 Omni -
4.07 Gaffer -
4.11 Jules -

5.06 Omni -
5.11 Jules -

6.06 Omni -
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Old 08-31-2019, 02:06 PM
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Sorry for the delay. Had a really close call that I suspect I'll regret in a few years because I picked the wrong one.

2.02 Deebo Samuel, WR, SF
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Old 08-31-2019, 02:20 PM
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I've been going back and forth around several guys for this pick, so here's hoping I made the right decision...

2.03 - AJ Brown, WR, TEN

Enjoy the rest of your draft boyos and I'll see you all for Week 1.
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Old 08-31-2019, 04:48 PM
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Ha. I was super close to drafting AJ Brown but the situation was so poor for various reasons. Tawan Taylor got traded away an hour later, which is not really a big deal but shows confidence in Brown and gives him a more direct route to playing time and development, and that might've been enough to swing me towards him, and I missed it by an hour. Obviously, now, he's going to become a perennial all-star and I will know for the next decade+ that I missed out on him.
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Old 08-31-2019, 06:02 PM
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Not with Mariota throwing to him. *sigh*
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Old 08-31-2019, 07:10 PM
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Sorry guys, working on it
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Old 08-31-2019, 07:38 PM
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Old 08-31-2019, 07:39 PM
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2.05 Daniel Jones, QB, NYG

PMing Omni now.
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Old 08-31-2019, 07:47 PM
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Obvious homer is obvious. Jones likely would have been there at 2.12 but last year three QBs came off the board from like 2.06 through 2.11, so 2.12 was perfect but not guaranteed. At least I didn't take him in the 1st like Mayfield at 1.05 last year.
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2.06 JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Phi

Edit: I was 100% taking Jones here if you wouldn't have. PM Sent.

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Old 08-31-2019, 08:08 PM
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Nice! That's the first perfect value pick I've made in years, if not ever.
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Old 08-31-2019, 08:54 PM
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Idea for 2020


Starting next year, would it make sense to not keep DEF at all, since they aren't humans who age out of the league and force you to draft a replacement?

I have no idea what round people might draft them, but it could be interesting. Especially since you'd only be drafting them for a single year in the same draft that you're picking rookies to hopefully keep for years.

Our scoring rules put DEF on par with TE, but there's not a ton of variance other than the Bears being miles ahead of #2, so maybe Chicago early then the rest in round 4 and later?

Logistically it would add at least 20 picks to the draft, which is massive. This year's draft is only 45 picks total, so maybe this idea is better in theory than in practice.

EDIT: I could see this as an argument to remove DEF from our teams altogether. Low variance, and they don't age out. At least kickers get cut or retire.

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Count me as a hard no on that one.
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:40 PM
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I would have dropped both my D/ST except that I need one and I’ve got a list of sleepers that might still fall to me.
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:50 PM
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2.07 P. Campbell, WR, IND

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Old 08-31-2019, 11:19 PM
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Here's an updated list as we close out page 3:


1.01 Petey - Josh Jacobs, RB, Oak
1.02 Beef - David Montgomery, RB, Chi
1.03 Justin - Miles Sanders, RB, Phi
1.04 Overly - Darrell Henderson, RB, LAR
1.05 Justin - Kyler Murray, QB, Arz
1.06 Omni - Justice Hill, RB, Bal
1.07 Gaffer - N'Keal Harry, WR, NE
1.08 Retro - Darwin Thompson, RB, KC
1.09 RNATB - T.J. Hockenson, TE, Det
1.10 Hamlet - Devin Singletary, RB, Buf
1.11 dale - Tony Pollard, RB, Dal
1.12 dale - Damien Harris, RB, NE

2.01 Petey - D.K. Metcalf, WR, Sea
2.02 Beef - Deebo Samuel, WR, SF
2.03 Justin - A.J. Brown, WR, Ten
2.04 Overly - Alexander Mattison, RB, Min
2.05 Ellis - Daniel Jones, QB, NYG
2.06 Omni - J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Phi
2.07 Gaffer - Parris Campbell, WR, Ind
2.08 Retro -
2.09 RNATB -
2.10 Hamlet -
2.11 RNATB -
2.12 Ellis -

3.01 Petey -
3.02 Beef -
3.03 Ellis -
3.04 Overly -
3.05 Jules -
3.06 Omni -
3.07 Gaffer -
3.08 Retro -
3.09 Jules -
3.11 Jules -
3.12 dale -

4.01 Petey -
4.02 Beef -
4.04 dale -
4.05 dale -
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:38 AM
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I vote we skip Retro starting at noon. He's been on the clock 10.5 hours so far, and if he's still in Australia, he went on the clock at 2pm his time and right now it's half past midnight. By noon our time it will be 2am in Australia and a 10-hour overnight wait may just be starting.

It's also possible he's traveling today, I suppose, but flights from Australia to the US are very long.
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Old 09-01-2019, 12:24 PM
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I vote we skip Retro starting at noon. He's been on the clock 10.5 hours so far, and if he's still in Australia, he went on the clock at 2pm his time and right now it's half past midnight. By noon our time it will be 2am in Australia and a 10-hour overnight wait may just be starting.

It's also possible he's traveling today, I suppose, but flights from Australia to the US are very long.
This is a hard one and I again thank everyone again for their patience with me when my job loss news hit me right before a Ďholidayí weekend.

Iíve done a decent amount of international travel and it sucks for fantasy purposes. Youíre in a country where the sport isnít popular , dealing with time zone differences, plus you spent a decent chunk of change to get there, so you donít want to be on your phone 24/7. Yesterday was cutdown day, so that may also be a factor. I know all the NFL cuts but I was watching college football all day yesterday and just had to minor tweak my draft list.

Letís try to be as flexible as possible but I understand we only have until Thursday to get through the draft. The later rounds often run quicker, since thereís often D/Sat taken and a late round flier isnít as costly as a bad 1st round pick.
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