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Old 04-17-2018, 03:11 PM
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21 Jump Street was a silly comedy until it suddenly became an ultra-violent action cop film. The turning point came when
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How can a Never-Ending Story have a sequel?
How can a never-ending story not have a sequel?
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:48 PM
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I really enjoyed that Jack Nicholson movie about the world of publishing, with what felt like some well written insider dialogue, great cast and awesome shots of the Bradbury Building.

Too bad they mixed in a bunch of tiresome werewolf stuff.
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Four Rooms is essentially four mini movies.
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Old 04-18-2018, 04:15 AM
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Does Mulholland Dr. count? The movie has two stories, but only one of them is real...
It does for me. I haven't seen all the films mentioned upthread, but I'd say Mulholland Drive is the best example of two films in one. Many plots will take a story into new surroundings (e.g.: starts with action, ends up in courtroom) and the vast majority of them will show a transformation of the story itself and/or of the characters. Mulholland Drive is the only film that I'm aware of right now that juxtaposes the two very different stories that it contains. Actually, metaphorically speaking, "superimposes" might be a better word, because it's not just that the beginning and end are noticeably different, but rather that, if you want to understand the story, you have to use the clues in one part to draw conclusions about the weirdness in the other part. There's no linear development to be considered in reverse by your mind's eye (walk back through the story), but rather, you have to simultaneously consider two opposing realities, not unlike the ordeal of Naomi Watts' character.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:43 AM
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How can a never-ending story not have a sequel?
Because it's like asking "What comes after infinity?"
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Not only that, it had a sequel. How can a Never-Ending Story have a sequel? Isn't that like "To Infinity ... and Beyond!" ?
It's its own sequel. At the end you hit play. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Didn't say it was going to be a different sequel.
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Predator. The first part is about a CIA mission, the second part is vs. the Predator.

But really, and the mention of Return of the Jedi reinforced this, it's actually a very very common trope in stories (not just movies, but novels too) to start with some sort of situation and explore that situation a little before transitioning into the real story. Often the setup story is about one job of a team before they start gearing up for the main job. Think of Inception or Mission Impossible (all of them, I assume; I haven't seen most). A *lot* of the movies mentioned here fall into that pattern, including the one I mentioned, which only triggered in my memory because the guys hosting it on cable (back when I had cable, wow, that was a long time ago) explicitly said it was two distinct movies as part of their banter. As noted, I somewhat disagree with that; the first act of the movie is necessary to meaningfully set up the rest of the movie. You need some reason for Arnold to be in the jungle without any sort of support; the bulk of the movie simply could not exist without the "filler" that sets it up.

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The old John Wayne movie The High and The Mighty is pretty much two separate stories - the flight crew's and the passengers' - with Wayne being the crossover character. As a matter of fact, I don't think Robert Stack's character even appeared in the same scene with any passenger.

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Hard to believe that no one's mentioned Godfather II yet.
Seconded. Godfather II is such a perfect double movie that they could cut it in two, stick the first movie in the middle, call the whole thing The Godfather Saga and still get a coherent story out of it.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:16 PM
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But really, and the mention of Return of the Jedi reinforced this, it's actually a very very common trope in stories (not just movies, but novels too) [...] You need some reason for Arnold to be in the jungle without any sort of support; the bulk of the movie simply could not exist without the "filler" that sets it up.
Yes, it's true of novels too. Which is why I typically start reading a novel somewhere in the middle. To skip that unnecessary "other" novel they've bulked out the pages with.

From my point of view, a lot of movies used to end with a long meaningless fight/dance/chase. Pretty much unrelated to the story. In modern blockbuster movies, they've "fixed" that: pretty much the whole move is a long meaningless fight scene, dropping most of the "filler that sets it up"
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It's its own sequel. At the end you hit play. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Didn't say it was going to be a different sequel.
Well, that's pretty much the problem, isn't it?

If the title is at all accurate, you'll never reach that end. You might as well take the "play" button off. You never get a chance to repeat.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:24 AM
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The Black Stallion. The first half is about a boy and a horse alone on an island, following a shipwreck. The second half becomes a more conventional story about preparing for and running The Big Race. The whole movie is delightful but the scenes on the island are amazing.

I can think of a lot of movies (e.g., The French Lieutenant's Woman) that include parallel stories but that is a different sort of thing, I suppose.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:48 AM
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“Swiss Family Robinson” 1960 film has a family shipwrecked on a tropical island. The first half has them exploring the island and building a home. The second half has them defending the home against a pirate attack.
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"Icarus", which won this year's Oscar for Best Documentary, is definitely two movies rolled into one. More specifically, it appears to have started out in one not particularly interesting direction, and then veers off in another, which keeps getting curiouser and curiouser all the time.

I'll finish watching it later this evening.
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Old 04-20-2018, 02:15 AM
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It does for me. I haven't seen all the films mentioned upthread, but I'd say Mulholland Drive is the best example of two films in one. Many plots will take a story into new surroundings (e.g.: starts with action, ends up in courtroom) and the vast majority of them will show a transformation of the story itself and/or of the characters. Mulholland Drive is the only film that I'm aware of right now that juxtaposes the two very different stories that it contains. Actually, metaphorically speaking, "superimposes" might be a better word, because it's not just that the beginning and end are noticeably different, but rather that, if you want to understand the story, you have to use the clues in one part to draw conclusions about the weirdness in the other part. There's no linear development to be considered in reverse by your mind's eye (walk back through the story), but rather, you have to simultaneously consider two opposing realities, not unlike the ordeal of Naomi Watts' character.
Another Lynch movie, Lost Highway, is also two films superimposed into one like that, although the superimposition and the weirdness are handled a little differently.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:11 PM
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Not only that, it had a sequel. How can a Never-Ending Story have a sequel? Isn't that like "To Infinity ... and Beyond!" ?
Sort of like "Final Destination 2". I always thought that was one of the funniest movie titles I ever saw!
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:11 PM
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Dances With Wolves. Though the first movie is VERY short. About ten minutes, it's a fantastic gritty portrayal of the Civil War, that I would have loved to see expanded.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:13 PM
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Adaptation

I'd go with Adaptation - it's an adaptation of "The Orchid Thief" and a completely different movie about writer's block, brotherly competitiveness, etc.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:06 PM
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The Good, The Bad and the Ugly has a movie within a movie when the three protagonists are caught in the middle of a Civil War battle before returning to their quest for the buried gold.

Right Now, Wrong Then by Korean director Hong Sang Soo contains two versions of a chance encounter and possible affair between a married director (Jung Jae Young) visiting a town for a film festival and a single ex-model turned painter (Kim Min Hee).

Art imitates life as director Hong (who is still married) began an affair with actress Kim during the making of this film. Hong claims that this and his subsequent films aren't based on his life, but there are strong elements of it in this and his other most recent films.

In On The Beach At Night Alone, an actress (Kim Min Hee) contemplates her affair with a married director and waits for him to follow her when she moves to Germany.

The Day After has Kim Min Hee playing a newly hired assistant who is falsely accused by his boss' wife of having an affair with him. The truth being that he really did have a fling with his former assistant.

I haven't seen his three latest films yet, Yourself and Yours, Claire's Camera and Grass, but since actress Kim is the lead in Claire's Camera and Grass, it's highly likely there are autobiographical elements in them. I highly suspect there will also be elements of his (and Kim's) life in there too.

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Goldfinger. Bond's assignment is only to figure out Auric's smuggling operation. He's already accomplished this when he stumbles onto Operation Grand Slam.

Unfortunately, he screws up by triggering an alarm and gets Tilly killed, along with being captured himself. That's when the real story starts.
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We had a thread several years ago titled Stories with a REALLY major mid-story shift in tone, format, or genre? where the OP also gave Full Metal Jacket as an example.

I'll copy my own example from that thread:

Kind of obscure, but the Brazilian film The Man Who Copied (O Homem Que Copiava) shifts from a quirky character-driven romantic comedy to a much darker heist flick. I didn't have time to watch the DVD all the way through at once, and with the stopping point I chose it wound up being almost like I watched two different movies that happened to have the same characters.
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Old 04-22-2018, 12:47 PM
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This isn't quite the same thing, but I've always thought that The Phantom Menace had a great podracing movie buried in it, and the rest of the story was very separate.
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Does Zach Snyder's much-maligned Sucker Punch count? It appears to be three movies in one.
  1. Evil stepfather conspires to have his willful stepdaughter lobotomized so he can steal her inheritance.
  2. Naive dancer is held captive in a brothel, where she's forced to strip for clients while the house pimp plots to sell her virginity to the highest bidder.
  3. Gun-toting hottie leads a squad of scantily clad superheroines across time and space to battle zombies, androids, orcs and dragons with automatic weapons and combat mecha.

Any one of these stories might (might) have made a decent film, but shoehorning them into a single film did not. It's not an anthology, and the same actors appear in multiple stories allegedly as the same character in each plot, but the relationship between the plots is tenuous (apparently the mental patient fantasizes she's being held captive in a brothel to escape the stress of psychiatric exams [???], but as the dancer escapes the oppression of being forced to strip by fantasizing she's a superhero). And Plot #2 suddenly becomes a musical.
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Old 04-23-2018, 01:57 PM
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Night on Earth is five movies in one. No connecting thread among the sequences, except that each is the interaction between a cab driver and hir passenger/s.
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Oh yeah, Night on Earth is a good one. I liked the clocks rewinding to the top of the hour in between the segments to emphasize that they were all happening simultaneously, from sunset in LA to midnight in Paris to dawn in Helsinki.
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The Fountain was basically three interspliced films, all starring Hugh Jackman. All three were absolutely beautiful, well-acted, and stupid.
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Babel managed to hold my attention for 2 out of the 3 stories it interwove.
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