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Old 07-13-2019, 09:33 AM
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Seven Samurai - Akira Kurosawa
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Oops...I only read the thread title "films that should have not sequel...ever!". These movies didn't have sequels and thankfully so. John Woo is remaking The Killer and IMO that's a travesty! You can't improve upon perfection!

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I came here to say Pink Flamingos.
But I have to know what Babs and Cotton have been doing in Boise the last 47 years!
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Old 07-14-2019, 01:23 AM
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But I have to know what Babs and Cotton have been doing in Boise the last 47 years!
Waters wrote a script for a sequel "Flamingos Forever" but scrapped it after Divine declined to repeat the role and Edith Massey's death. He published it in the book "Trash Trio"
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Star Wars.

The original was a fun little romp, it revitalized the science-fiction genre, helped launch the "used future" trope, and stood very nicely as a complete story all on its own.

None of the sequels has matched it, and a few of them rank among the worst major Hollywood features ever made. Most either attempt to rehash the themes of the original, or just pile explosions and pointless effects shots on top of ludicrous plots.

None of them have any real heart, and all were made (to say nothing of the shit-tons of merch) simply to extract cash from the fans who had been entranced by the magic of the original.
You canít be serious. Empire was better than the original and Iím one of those weird people who liked the prequels. Every Star Wars film is well worth seeing.
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I'm not gonna say The Matrix never should have had sequels, but they definitely never should have had THOSE sequels.
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They probably shouldn’t make a sequel to On the Beach.

As distinct from remakes.

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Old 07-15-2019, 07:32 AM
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No such luck.

2 remakes: Caboblanco, starring Charles Bronson, and Havana, starring Robert Redford.

1 sequel novel: As Time Goes By, by Michael Walsh.
The book was very good. I enjoyed it.
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Seven Samurai definitely shouldn't have had a sequel. The American western remake, though, the Magnificent Seven, had three.


Of course, as in samurai, all but three of the seven get killed off, so you couldn't really have a sequel with everyone. They only had Yul Brynner of the original cast back for the first sequel. they had other actors replacing the other two survivors -- Robert Fuller replaced the scene-stealing Steve Mcqueen as Vin Tanner and Julian Mateos replaced the too-Anglo Horst Buchholz as Chico. The plot actually makes sense, with Chris Adams (Brynner) being called back to rescue Chico and other men from the village who have been kidnapped. They get four other guys to fill out the seven. The movie isn't great (although I think it's better than the critics made it out to be) The other sequels still have the Adams character, although he's played by George Kennedy in Guns of the Magnificent Seven and Lee van Cleef in The Magnificent Seven Ride (where he becomes a US Marshall) . For no good reason, except the titles, they keep rounding out the number of gunmen to Seven.


None of the sequels did as well as the original.
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You canít be serious.
Serious as a heart attack. The Star Wars franchise is the most overrated bunch of movies ever made.
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Empire was better than the original...
People keep saying this, and I've never understood it. It is clearly an in-between movie that doesn't stand on its own. That, IMHO, makes it a lesser film than the original Star Wars.
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Did you really mean to admit that in public?
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We'll have to agree to disagree.
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The Magnificent Seven' was essentially a remake of 'The Seven Samurai' and was terrific! Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, James Coburn, Eli Wallach, Robert Vaughn and introducing Horst Buchholz....all directed by John Sturgis.
'The Guns of the Magnificent Seven' and the 'Magnificent Seven Ride!' were fucking terrible and never should have been made.
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And the...


...incredible sound track was done by Elmer Bernstein!
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Old 07-16-2019, 07:04 AM
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The Pink Panther series went on forever, even after Peter Sellers' death.

when you're reduced to using unused footage of Clouseau from earlier films (Trail of the Pink Panther), explaining that your lead character has had plastic surgery and now looks completely different (Curse of the Pink Panther), or introducing someone as the illegitimate son of your lead character (Son of the Pink Panther), and none of them "work", it's pretty clearly time to shut down the series. why couldn't they simply have someone else play Clouseau, looking the way Clouseau did? -- oh, yeah, they did that with Alan Arkin in Inspector Clouseau, while Peter Sellers was still alive.


And then, just when you thought that the character had been staked as effectively as Dracula, they rebooted it with Steve Martin in the lead. two more films.
The Pink Panther Strikes Again and Revenge of the Pink Panther were surprisingly good, given that they were technically the fifth and sixth films in the series, but yes, the four Sellers-less films after that - and the two reboots - should be burned. I mean, I like Roberto Benigni but he's no Peter Sellers.
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Shrek, the first one is still a classic. The rest go downhill from there.
The second Shrek was pretty good. The rest? Bleh.
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As least no one is working on the script for a sequel to The Last Starfighter.

....

Aw, fudge.
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The Magnificent Seven' was essentially a remake of 'The Seven Samurai' and was terrific! Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, James Coburn, Eli Wallach, Robert Vaughn and introducing Horst Buchholz....all directed by John Sturgis.
You forgot Brad Dexter. I think you owe his legacy and fans an apology.
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I have to admit that I was really surprised when they came up with a sequel to Beneath the Planet of the Apes







The movies are over 40 years old, so I ain't spoilering this.




When you're blown up the entire world and everyone on it, you'd think that would pretty much prevent any sequels. but, as with Michael Corleone in that Saturday Night Live skit, just when you think you're done, they pull you right back in.

They somehow or other were able to fix up one of the rockets that had crashed on Future Earth and three apes had flown in it, going inexplicably back in time, rather than forward in time, and landed on then-present-day earth. They got three more sequels

Escape from the Planet of the Apes
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes
Battle for the Planet of the Apes


They used the time-travel thing to explain how super-intelligent apes appeared and were able to lead a revolt against humans. But the sequels still seemed to be pretty pointless and endless.


Actually, you can make a pretty good argument that Beneath the Planet of the Apes was a pretty pointless and un-needed sequel, as well.
I've heard that the budgets shrank for the successive movies in the original franchise. The studio was not doing financially well and the Ape movies were helping to keep the lights on. By the time the last one was made, they were recycling props from recently canceled Irwin Allen shows, like Time Tunnel.
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I've heard that the budgets shrank for the successive movies in the original franchise. The studio was not doing financially well and the Ape movies were helping to keep the lights on. By the time the last one was made, they were recycling props from recently canceled Irwin Allen shows, like Time Tunnel.
Kinda liberal definition of "recently". Time Tunnel ended in 1967, and Battle came out in 1973 (although I coulda sworn it was later)
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Citizen Kane.
Sequel: Son of Kane, ghost of Rosebud.

And Buck Henry was the one who did the pitch for The Graduate sequel in The Player.
And that was one of the most perfect casting choices of all time.

As for the OP? 2001: A Space Odyssey. Yes, yes, I know. 2010 is based on a Clarke novel, blah blah. Nice. He wrote eleventy-four sequels to the novel, which was really an oddball bit if writing to begin with. The novel, writ in tandem with the shooting of the film.

Anywhoo, leave 2001 alone. Baby, Star Child, swelling music, over and done.
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The Alien series should've stopped with the second, too. Aliens was a great flick. No point in having Alien3 or Alien Resurrection or the Alien v. Predator movies or the loathsome Prometheus series.
Not "should hae stopped". Rather "should have gone with the William Gibson script". There was room for a sequel. Just not a really bad one.

anyway. Blade Runner. Where could that go after the original ending? Nowhere, as was made clear by the forgettable sequel.

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anyway. Blade Runner. Where could that go after the original ending? Nowhere, as was made clear by the forgettable sequel.
FTR I didn't mind the sequel at all. It felt like the second part of a trilogy though, and the third film would have to be pretty damn good to make it all work.
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The studio is "looking into" a sequel.

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Didn't do well enough for a sequel.

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So three out of six. That's showbiz.
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