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Old 11-03-2015, 10:11 PM
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'His Dark Materials' to be a BBC TV series


I just saw that Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials fantasy trilogy is going to be adapted to a series for BBC television.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...philip-pullman


I'm pretty happy to hear it. I read the novels about 10 years ago. I liked The Golden Compass movie adaptation and was disappointed that it wasn't successful enough to warrant filming the sequels. A TV adaptation won't have the budget that the movie did, so the visual effects may not be as good, but I think having more time for the story and characters to develop and breathe will be a great benefit.

Not much information that I could find about what the production will be like. One season covering the whole trilogy? Multiple seasons?

They haven't cast anyone yet, so it'll be a while before we see anything. Production will be in Wales.

Speaking of casting... anyone want to throw out some names--a wish list? The Golden Compass movie had some pretty great casting, though Daniel Craig didn't fit my image of Lord Asriel very well.

I recently watched the new adaptation of Poldark, and I could see the actress who plays Demelza as Serefina Pekkela. She has an ethereal beauty. Or Sibel Kekilli (Shae on Game of Thrones) for a 'darker' look.

I don't think you can beat the movie's casting of Sam Elliot as Lee Scoresby, but I'd like to see a Texan in the role. Kris Kristofferson would be cool.

Any thoughts?
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Old 11-03-2015, 10:15 PM
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I don't think you can beat the movie's casting of Sam Elliot as Lee Scoresby,
Nope. He was perfect. I'd watch this if they got him to play Scoresby again.
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Nope. He was perfect. I'd watch this if they got him to play Scoresby again.
Absolutely. The role should just go to him forever, it's like it was written for him.
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Yeah--I hope they adjust the focus of the story. Keep the "I Hate God/Religion" message*--it's an integral part of the story and Pullman's atheism informs the entire book, but keep the camera on Lyra and...whatshisname...Will rather than the huge focus on the GAWD IS EVIL thing that brought the books to a halt. Don't cut it, just spend a lot less time on the neverending rants and more time on the characters.

I also hope they tweak the second book's story just a bit. I don't like how Lyra went from one of the strongest female protagonists in a Juvie Novel in the first book to a simpering wimp in the second one.




*Pullman has been very clear that this is his belief system.
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Here's the point- Book 1 was wonderful, full of flying witches, armoured polar bears, airships, and those cool dæmons, something every kid wants. But they already did that film. The stupid "Religion is Eviiiiil" theme was an undercurrent.

Book 2 is just dark and boring. The preaching is loud and annoying. Book 3 is worse.
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Good news, everyone!


Almost 4 years since we heard about it, but it's almost here!
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I don't think you can beat the movie's casting of Sam Elliot as Lee Scoresby, but I'd like to see a Texan in the role. Kris Kristofferson would be cool.
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Nope. He was perfect. I'd watch this if they got him to play Scoresby again.
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Absolutely. The role should just go to him forever, it's like it was written for him.
Turns out that the part went to Lin-Manuel Miranda; trailer here.

It looks freaking fantastic!

I have not (and likely will not) see Hamilton, so I'm not really familiar with Mr. Miranda's acting ability, but I'll give him a chance since everything else seems amazing. Plus, he was apparently really into the source material:
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Lin-Manuel Miranda says he agreed to being in the adaptation of “His Dark Materials” before he even knew what part he was being offered.

Miranda plays Lee Scoresby, a cowboy who flies hot air balloons and gets into bar fights, although he says he would have sharpened pencils to be part of the production.
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But Miranda was by far the giddiest of the cast, excitedly asking permission to reveal his first scene.

“I literally come into this thing singing a duet with my demon, on a big hot air balloon, which was a fun way to enter the world,” Miranda said. “I can’t believe we get to go back to summer camp this summer for season two.”
https://apnews.com/c4a9cd8df14748c0b0f90b262ed03ef2

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HBO has yet to set a premiere date for the series.
Still, I'm actually optimistic that they're going to do the books justice, so that we can all finally say, with conviction, "what movie?"
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Old 07-19-2019, 03:56 AM
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Thanks for the update, Snowboarder Bo! I had forgotten that I started this thread, but I have been following the recent news and trailers for this as they have come out.

This is now an HBO/BBC co-production. A second season has already been greenlit prior to the release of season 1. Looks like each season will be eight episodes. I haven't found any information about how much of the books will be covered each season. From the wikipedia page: "In an interview, director Otto Bathurst said that there will be some changes to the series compared to the book and the film adaptation. He said that they are giving it a little twist and are modernizing it so that it departs from the original's Victoriana fantasy." Not sure what that means, exactly, with regard to 'modernizing' it.

Regarding casting:

Lyra: Dafne Keen - this is the girl who played the young mutant Laura in Logan (the last Wolverine movie with Hugh Jackman). She was great in that so I am hopeful about her casting here.

Ms. Coulter: Ruth Wilson - I'm not familiar with her other than a small role in Saving Mr. Banks

Lord Asriel: James McAvoy - I like him, he's a good actor though he can go over-the-top sometimes.

Lee Scoresby: Lin-Manuel Miranda - totally doesn't fit my image of Scoresby, but I'll keep an open mind. The most I've seen of him is in an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm playing himself.

Serafina Pekkala: Ruta Gedmintas - I liked her in The Strain, she could be good here, too.

The trailers look great! I am excited about this and hope it is good and that they are able to tell the entire story.
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Old 07-19-2019, 04:25 AM
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If you are curious about how great Ruth Wilson is as an actress, she produced and starred in a little mini-series called Mrs Wilson, and the surname is not a coincidence as she plays her very own real-life grandmother. It's all about a woman whose husband dies and the subsequent shocking things she learns about him that he was keeping from her. It's a mesmerising performance by Ruth.
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Ruth Wilson was great as the absolutely bat-shit insane Alice in Luther.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:18 AM
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Here's the point- Book 1 was wonderful, full of flying witches, armoured polar bears, airships, and those cool dæmons, something every kid wants. But they already did that film. The stupid "Religion is Eviiiiil" theme was an undercurrent.

Book 2 is just dark and boring. The preaching is loud and annoying. Book 3 is worse.
Yup. I loved the first book, and by the end of the third, I didn't feel like I wanted to recommend them to anyone.

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...From the wikipedia page: "In an interview, director Otto Bathurst said that there will be some changes to the series compared to the book and the film adaptation. He said that they are giving it a little twist and are modernizing it so that it departs from the original's Victoriana fantasy." Not sure what that means, exactly, with regard to 'modernizing' it.
Maybe they'll fix the ending?
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Ruth Wilson was great as the absolutely bat-shit insane Alice in Luther.
Ooh, she'll be great.
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...keep the camera on Lyra and...whatshisname...Will rather than the huge focus on the GAWD IS EVIL thing that brought the books to a halt



I didn't encounter any GAWD IS EVIL theme. GAWD was an irrelevant doddering old geezer in a rickshaw. Religion, now, there's some serious evil.

And what brough the books to a halt was Pullman's inability to make good on the promises inherent in his first two books once he got to the third.

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Old 07-19-2019, 09:45 AM
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Dafne Keen does not look to have aged at all since Logan.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:08 AM
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I liked The Subtle Knife best but thought the 3rd book was excellent also after my 2nd read thru.
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