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Still I'd think killing a few redshirt guards beat hundreds dead and massive infrastructure damage to gear world any day. Besides they're just robots .
Oh, come on. That's like calling a Chinese person "Asiaface"!
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I was baffled when RAM appeared on The Simpsons for the couch gag awhile back, having never heard of the show before. After seeing an ad for the S2 premiere, I watched the show and liked it very much - weird characters, subversive humor, bizarre aliens and impressive animation. I've watched several excerpts on YouTube and have added the show to my DVR list. Good stuff. A bonus for me, as an Archer fan, is Chris Parnell doing the voice of the dad.

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Last night's episode was Moral Orel levels of dark and touching. Loved it.
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I saw a bit of the show on American TV when my sister and I were staying in a hotel in NYC last month. I thought it looked intriguing, so when I got home, I watched a bit of it online. I've seen the first few episodes, and I'm enjoying the show so far.
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Last night's episode was excellent, one of the best. Such fantastic displays of emotion from both Rick and Jerry.
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What happened with Rick, the small alien and the gadget in the garage at the very end of the most recent episode?
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Did he kill it, and then almost commit suicide himself before drunkenly passing out?
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Well:

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That is largely how I understand it, yes.

He gets dumped by Unity, who essentially tells him that he's too self-centered for even a hive mind to deal with. He understands that it's probably right, and it kind of breaks him. He heads back home, and acquiesces to anything that is asked of him.

He kills the small alien, then obviously intends to kill himself. I like to think he realizes that would be just another string of selfish acts, and puts his head down in realization of the the fact that if he doesn't want to remain only a selfish bastard in the memories of those he loves, he has to continue living.

But for whatever reason he puts his head down before he's annihilated, and passes out until the next day.

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Old 08-13-2015, 11:33 AM
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Why'd he kill the small alien? Why not return it to where it came from and release it there? Was it suffering and he was "putting it out of its misery"?
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Old 08-13-2015, 12:19 PM
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My take on the small alien:

It's like a thing you can buy. A small alien that does not want to be alive (like Meseeks), and can be frozen and thawed easily. To test equipment like the one he has.

Also Rick passed out and that was all that saved him.
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Old 08-13-2015, 12:32 PM
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My take on the small alien:

It's like a thing you can buy. A small alien that does not want to be alive (like Meseeks), and can be frozen and thawed easily. To test equipment like the one he has.

Also Rick passed out and that was all that saved him.
My view is that Rick is an hedonismo-anarcho-nihilist who throws himself (and all others) to the fortunes of the cosmic wind while playing with loaded dice. He would probably call himself a realist. He's still growing as a character, but as he is now... what's the life of a small Alien?

Know your role people, whether you pass butter, are a child rapist/king, or a conjured non-magical genie.

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My view is that Rick is an hedonismo-anarcho-nihilist who throws himself (and all others) to the fortunes of the cosmic wind while playing with loaded dice. He would probably call himself a realist. He's still growing as a character, but as he is now... what's the life of a small Alien?

Know your role people, whether you pass butter, are a child rapist/king, or a conjured non-magical genie.
I don't think we have seen him purposefully murder a non-robot or "robot" that desired to live, without it being a danger to him. So this would be a casual first. Also it really seems like something this world would have, a small life-hating creature that you can test killing apparatus with, with less moral problems.
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Old 08-13-2015, 03:28 PM
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My take on the small alien:

It's like a thing you can buy. A small alien that does not want to be alive (like Meseeks), and can be frozen and thawed easily. To test equipment like the one he has.

Also Rick passed out and that was all that saved him.
Huh I had a different read of the scene, remember the alien prisoner in the basement earlier in the episode said Rick WAS trying to cure his space AIDS.

I think the alien was afflicted with something Rick could not cure, or wanted to die or something and Rick kept him on ice in the event in the future he figured something out.

Since Rick was about to kill himself and none of his family would have any clue what to do with it, Rick unfroze it after decades and killed it first before himself. Like you might let a pet parakeet free before shooting yourself in the head rather than let it starve in the cage.


Did Rick rape hundreds of people in this episode who could only scream in inner horror?
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Old 08-13-2015, 03:34 PM
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Right, I may agree that this is a better read.

I believe if you are part of the hive mind there is no inner people who scream in horror. You are the hive mind.
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Very interesting, folks. Thanks. Great to have a show that makes you laugh, think and recoil, by turns.
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:39 AM
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Something occurred to me, we constantly see Morty and Summer shown up by worldly Rick for their "planetary mindset" when they apply human morality to alien worlds.

But........uh what morality or sense of the world makes more sense in the galactic civilization? We have 0 sense or clue how the galactic civilization works, so it really isn't fair.

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Last night's episode got a little over the top as they kept piling on characters, but it was pretty solid overall, and the twist at the end was unexpected.

Highlights; Amish Cyborg, Sleepy Gary, Never-Past-Bedtime-Land, Morty and Summer's bad memories of one another, Keith David as the talking giraffe, and Rick's catch phrases (Lick lick lick my balls! Grasssssssss... tastes bad! Schum schum schlippity dop! Hit the sack, Jack! EGGS!)

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Old 08-17-2015, 03:11 PM
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Rick's catch phrases (Lick lick lick my balls! Grasssssssss... tastes bad! Schum schum schlippity dop! Hit the sack, Jack! EGGS!)
Not eggs - AIDS! Which makes it a whole lot better .

The bitter family flashbacks were the best, especially Summer viciously kicking Morty in the nuts from behind and Beth drunkenly whacking Summer in the face with her wine bottle. "She's real - she's my bitch of a sister." But the best moment was a tearful Beth shakily pouring a glass of wine for herself right before the credits. Rick and Morty do humorous but simultaneously devastatingly bleak extremely well.

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Old 08-18-2015, 11:47 AM
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I just got caught up last night and it is a really good show.

As for continuity I read an article somewhere where Harmon said they are not going to worry about continuity. Now obviously there is some but if I remember right he said they aren't going to sacrifice stories for continuity.
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As for continuity I read an article somewhere where Harmon said they are not going to worry about continuity. Now obviously there is some but if I remember right he said they aren't going to sacrifice stories for continuity.
IIRC, the only time they've explicitly referred to events in a prior episode was in the season 2 premiere (which followed immediately after the events of the season 1 finale), and the time that Morty pointed out the graves of this universe's original Rick and Morty in the backyard.

Seeing Jerry try to cope with the false memories of his affair with Sleepy Gary would be good for a few jokes, though.
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.... Rick and Morty do humorous but simultaneously devastatingly bleak extremely well.
Yes! Well said. I had the same thought.

This was one of the best half-hours of TV I've seen in years. Years! Great stuff. Never quite knew where it was going, and I loved how there kept being new people in the house (some of whom even showed up in the opening credits) as Rick kept trying to figure out who was actually supposed to be there.

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"Thanks, Mr. Poopy Butthole. Always could count on you."

"Dad, why does our house have blast shields?"
"Trust me, Beth, you don't want to know how many answers that question has."

"Shut up, Ham-urai. Shut up, Amish Cyborg. What is this, Nineties Conan?"

"Open the blast shields and let us the hell outta here!"
"Why don't you make me, Implausibly Naive Pubescent Boy With An Old Jewish Comedy Writer's Name?"

"Now let's go, Morty. We've got a lot of friends and family to exterminate."

(Dark) comedy gold.
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The twist with mr poopy butt is kind of a cheat though, yea yea screw continuity but still!
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The twist with mr poopy butt is kind of a cheat though, yea yea screw continuity but still!
Given the frequency with which the show plays with alternate universes, it is easy to provide continuity here should it be necessary.
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We just might not have seen Mr. Poopy Butthole before - after all, we only see RAM half an hour a week. It could still be the same universe.

Forgot to say, I loved Morty's bad memories while with his grandfather - being dragged away by a giant crab while Rick shares a drink with two blue babes; getting a little impromptu oral surgery from transparent aliens while Rick steals their instruments; being pantsed and falling down stairs in front of two classmates while Rick laughs at him.
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I loved the bit where Mr. Poopy Butthole took the butt-living chipmunks and taught them how to surf and also about the importance of protecting the fragile coastal ecosystem. He's a real standup guy.
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I literally have no bad memories of Mr. Poopy Butthole.

Oh, no....
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I really wanna know why Rick didn't want to be killed in front of pencilvester...I'd like to see that flashback that explains it.


Or wait, was it Morty who didn't want to see him kill Rick in front of pencilvester? Dammit! Now I gotta go rewatch it again and again and over analyse everything.

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I really wanna know why Rick didn't want to be killed in front of pencilvester...I'd like to see that flashback that explains it.


Or wait, was it Morty who didn't want to see him kill Rick in front of pencilvester? Dammit! Now I gotta go rewatch it again and again and over analyse everything.
Apperently Rick and pencilvester were good friends; Rick cried when it was time to kill the parasite (and even left the 'wet work' to Morty).

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Morty didn't want to kill Rick in front of Pencilvester, so two of the other aliens dragged Rick into the garage for Morty to snuff him there.

...I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.
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We just might not have seen Mr. Poopy Butthole before - after all, we only see RAM half an hour a week. It could still be the same universe.
However, this is the first time we seem him in the opening credits.
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Apperently Rick and pencilvester were good friends; Rick cried when it was time to kill the parasite (and even left the 'wet work' to Morty).
His name was "Pencilvester". That alone rendered him too awesome, in Rick's mind, to kill him.
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Morty didn't want to kill Rick in front of Pencilvester, so two of the other aliens dragged Rick into the garage for Morty to snuff him there.

...I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.
Did Morty not want to do it front of Pencilvester because of Rick's friendship with him? Or because of Morty's friendship with him? I watched it again twice last night and can't decide.

....and yes, I find it difficult to type "pecilvester" without asking myself what the hell I'm doing with my life.
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Rick and Pencil were very close. Marty took him to the garage because he didn't want to upset Pencil.

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However, this is the first time we seem him in the opening credits.
Yes, which further proves the genius of the show. Seeing him there primes us to think he's just another alien impersonator - Beth shooting him very powerfully shows us he's not.
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Yes, which further proves the genius of the show. Seeing him there primes us to think he's just another alien impersonator - Beth shooting him very powerfully shows us he's not.
Note that none of those opening shots are particularly happy memories .
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This video is the short that jump-started the series (I think. I'm on my phone so I can't be sure). You can probably tell why they had to make some changes when it got picked up by Adult Swim.

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If that's broadly representative of the show, then I'm skipping it. I hate the animation style and the humor wasn't funny to me.
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If that's broadly representative of the show, then I'm skipping it. I hate the animation style and the humor wasn't funny to me.
Aside from the voice actors being the same, that short has pretty much nothing in common with the show as it's currently on the air.

Here's a clip from a recent episode that better shows off the general feel of the show (and parodies one of the better ST:TNG episodes in the meantime.)
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Note that none of those opening shots are particularly happy memories .
Other than the pillow-fight.
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I rewatched the memory parasite episode and have some issues with it.

Ok it is established the parasites can only create happy memories, for whatever reason, even under threat of death the fridge could only create a memory it hoped would be mistaken for an unhappy memory perhaps due to lack of familiarity with human emotions.

The parasites do not seem to be able to alter real actual memories, only insert new fake happy ones.

So why did Beth and Jerry not realize something was wrong with Sleepy Gary? How did SG create the false impression he was Beth's husband and how did Jerry forget he was her husband and not a family friend, how did he forget his own children were his?

It is one thing to insert a memory of a new child say, another to alter the memories of your existing child.

Rick's initial description of the parasites said they could mess with your memories, a far greater threat than their actual limited powers. Oh something I caught was the green glowing rock Rick threw in the trash was obviously the source of the parasites.

*There is such a simple prevention to the parasite problem it boggles the mind Rick didn't set it up beforehand, hard evidence of the real people like photographs.
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Oh yea is there any in story reason why the parasites chose such outlandish personas, except for the first one killed which chose a much more sensible guise.
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I rewatched the memory parasite episode and have some issues with it.

Ok it is established the parasites can only create happy memories, for whatever reason, even under threat of death the fridge could only create a memory it hoped would be mistaken for an unhappy memory perhaps due to lack of familiarity with human emotions.

The parasites do not seem to be able to alter real actual memories, only insert new fake happy ones.

So why did Beth and Jerry not realize something was wrong with Sleepy Gary? How did SG create the false impression he was Beth's husband and how did Jerry forget he was her husband and not a family friend, how did he forget his own children were his?

It is one thing to insert a memory of a new child say, another to alter the memories of your existing child.

Rick's initial description of the parasites said they could mess with your memories, a far greater threat than their actual limited powers. Oh something I caught was the green glowing rock Rick threw in the trash was obviously the source of the parasites.

*There is such a simple prevention to the parasite problem it boggles the mind Rick didn't set it up beforehand, hard evidence of the real people like photographs.
My view is that they flood their victims with lots of really, really happy memories. That would work. Human brains will not only relish happy memories much more than sad ones, one really happy memory will cancel out a couple dozen sad ones!
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The parasites do not seem to be able to alter real actual memories, only insert new fake happy ones.

So why did Beth and Jerry not realize something was wrong with Sleepy Gary? How did SG create the false impression he was Beth's husband and how did Jerry forget he was her husband and not a family friend, how did he forget his own children were his?
If they sat down and pieced through their memories, they probably would have been able to notice the inconsistencies. But, unless your mind is focused in the right direction it can be a lot harder than you might think for people to recognize contradictions. Just read about the fallibility of eyewitness testimony. Jerry is particularly dim and Beth isn't exactly happy with her marriage, I see no problem with their characters not being able to put two and two together when the illusion is so much more preferable.
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If they sat down and pieced through their memories, they probably would have been able to notice the inconsistencies. But, unless your mind is focused in the right direction it can be a lot harder than you might think for people to recognize contradictions. Just read about the fallibility of eyewitness testimony. Jerry is particularly dim and Beth isn't exactly happy with her marriage, I see no problem with their characters not being able to put two and two together when the illusion is so much more preferable.
And the parasites did insert at least one altered memory: the one of Rick writing the six on a piece of paper.
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And the parasites did insert at least one altered memory: the one of Rick writing the six on a piece of paper.
They even actively created a bad memory by having Frankenstein's Monster violently beat Rick up and steal his gun.

Hell, regardless who was suspected of being a parasite (or who was not) there was never any reason for the humans (Morty, Summer, Beth, Jerry) to ever advocate the opening of the blast door and dooming humanity. There's simply no gain to opening those doors. I'm not sure why Morty would even give Rick a choice of doors or death.

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They even actively created a bad memory by having Frankenstein's Monster violently beat Rick up and steal his gun.
Yeah, but here, I think, the memory was created the traditional way, by having Frankenstein's Monster actually beat Rick up. It wasn't an inserted, false memory. Maybe if Mrs Fride were to live a bit longer in the house, she would lead to the creation of bad memories with her by being a horrible roommate.

I'm not sure about the Nazi... submarine? But then they did get all saved by Beauregard, so it was a sort of cool memory.
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I'm assuming the reason the humans did not instantly notice at least that the none human disguise parasites made no sense is they insert memories explaining their bizarre appearance. Otherwise you'd think at least the shit like "sun guy" and Photoraptor would be easy to spot.

I think Morty was just playing along after he got the idea about no bad memories, he said what he needed to get Rick alone with only a few parasites in the garage.
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I think Morty was just playing along after he got the idea about no bad memories, he said what he needed to get Rick alone with only a few parasites in the garage.
I'm pretty sure the revelation came after Rick said he only had six fond memories of Morty balanced by thousands of shitty ones. Not to mention he was pretty much demanding Morty shoot him, something a parasite likely wouldn't have the nerve to do ( based on my fairly substantial experience interacting with memory-altering, shape-shifting space parasites ).
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Sweet Jesus. Last night's episode was gold. I was in stitches the entire time. It's amazing how they can take such a ridiculous premise and play it straight while still wringing every last drop of comedy out of it. The subplot with the head religion was kind of drawn out, but it was well-written and bordered on serious sci-fi.

Highlights;

* "Get schwifty"
* Keith David as the president ("Can you fly a Blackhawk?" "Can the Pope's dick fit in a donut?")
* Kurtwood Smith as the general
* The return of Birdperson ("You know what this human eats. Bird cock!")
* Ice-T
* Morty teleporting onto the Planet of Butts
* Rick's watch that turns people into snakes, and the twist reveal of how it actually works

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I guess Rick was lying about the portal gun running out of energy. Why?
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I guess Rick was lying about the portal gun running out of energy. Why?
Presumably because he actually did care about saving the planet, and figured he needed Morty's help to write the ultimate pop jam and/or wanted to teach him that you can't just cut and run for an alternate universe whenever things start to go south. (IIRC, the last time they did that, Rick said there were maybe only four or five universes total where they'd be able to replace themselves and fit in.)
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:54 AM
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Morty just wanted to get the family, so they could take them with them if they lose. Seems reasonable enough. That would also increase the number of planets they could go to if things go wrong. Also the lie was very quickly uncovered.
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