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I see Blade Barrier has gotten a cosmetic upgrade since last time.
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We've seen Blade Barrier more recently than that. But that one was still swords, too.
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:50 AM
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At least cousin Whosits stopped monologing.
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Old 07-10-2019, 01:29 PM
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Hel-larious. I love how Frost Giant God is shoved aside by Hel midway through the strip, and is out of frame for the rest of it.

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Old 07-10-2019, 01:56 PM
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I'm betting it was Loki who came up with this idea. And I wonder if there's any other divine politicking going on around the Dwarf God.
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:42 PM
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What's with Hel's coloured teeth? is that a reference to something in mythology?
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:49 PM
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What's with Hel's coloured teeth? is that a reference to something in mythology?
I noticed too and assumed it was just part of her sickly demeanor. Still, Hel, brush your damn teeth.
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I think they're just rotting to indicate her position as the goddess of sickness. As far as I know for physical description in mythology, all we get is a line in the Prose Edda: "She is half blue-black and half flesh-color (by which she is easily recognized), and very lowering and fierce." (Pg. 42)

Which Burlew clearly is not abiding by so I'm assuming the green teeth is an artistic choice all his own.

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Enough about the teeth. Why is everybody’s quiditty muddy brown instead of yellow?
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:59 PM
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Enough about the teeth. Why is everybody’s quiditty muddy brown instead of yellow?
Just the transparency against the dark background? When Thor opens the door, his is brighter yellow, except for his hand opening the gate (and in the cavern)
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Some of the best parts of the Norse myths (any version of them, including the versions written by Marvel) are the parts where Thor and Loki are cooperating.
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Huh, in the first panel Mr. This-Council-Is-Dominated-By-Vampires looks surprised. I wonder if he's just started by the magic next to him, or if he didn't know this was going to be a question from Dvalin.

Okay, looking back, I can't find anything that says these clan councils are always about godly matters. Anyone?

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Because they're in a cave with brown walls.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:07 PM
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Some of the best parts of the Norse myths (any version of them, including the versions written by Marvel) are the parts where Thor and Loki are cooperating.
Five words: Thor in a wedding dress.
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Five words: Thor in a wedding dress.


Mmmmmmm, good one.

I grew up on “D'Aulaires' Book of Norse Myths”

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Old 07-15-2019, 10:11 AM
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"When this is over, I will accept any food-based expressions of that sentiment that you wish to offer."
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:31 AM
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Loki is entertaining.
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Old 07-15-2019, 12:05 PM
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This has to be more than just a distraction, right?

Like buried in the file cabinet is a single piece of paper that says, "Also, any dwarves that die in a world-ending apocalypse will be deemed to have died in battle by definition, with appropriate measures taken regarding disposition of their souls". Something for Hel to unknowingly agree to, that they can then reveal and change the game?

The god stuff here is funny, but it doesn't seem to be carrying its weight in the narrative unless there's another shoe to drop. With Loki, I expect a lot of shoes.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:15 PM
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Like buried in the file cabinet is a single piece of paper that says, "Also, any dwarves that die in a world-ending apocalypse will be deemed to have died in battle by definition, with appropriate measures taken regarding disposition of their souls". Something for Hel to unknowingly agree to, that they can then reveal and change the game?
I think, narratively, the win needs to come from Durkon (or the Order in general) so while Loki may distract Hel or keep her from doing stuff, it won't be any trick by Loki that actually fixes the whole vote issue or forces her to back down.
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I'd been wondering where Hilgya was! Hilarious!
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Old 07-16-2019, 08:53 PM
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I also enjoyed that!
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:27 AM
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Loki might slip a clause like that into the paperwork, but that won't detract from Durkon's victory, because if Durkon prevents the world from being destroyed at all, then it won't come up. It's good for Loki to have a plan B, but remember, he was against destroying the world even before Hel monologued her evil plan (a villainous monologue? Really? He's a failure as a parent).
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That hammer still needs to come back, which will presumably do more damage.

And his plan wasn't to make just a hole. His plan was to do it just like his Pa did.
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:09 AM
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I'm too lazy to search. What do we know about Durkon's Pa?

Presumably even if enough aye votes are recorded to guarantee a majority the vote won't conclude until all the nay votes so any non-dominated clan leader can delay indefinitely?
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http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0991.html

He used his hammer to bury a troll in a cave-in, sacrificing himself to stop it.

Durkon's plan is likely to collapse the roof altogether, exposing the vampire to more sunlight than he can handle. Or maybe just bury the entire council chamber and stop the vote altogether.

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Old 07-29-2019, 09:40 AM
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You'd have thought that Mr Shine would remember the part about a dwarf killing a troll.
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:50 AM
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That hammer still needs to come back, which will presumably do more damage.
That's my guess. This is Durkon's fight to win against the vampire and Hel so I'm guessing there's a second stage to what Durkon just did (versus someone else finishing the job).
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:48 AM
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I agree that by story-telling coventions, Durkon's actions will win the plot arc.

But I want to note that the hammer just went out where someone on the Mechane could possibly see it. If they do, I'm sure they will investigate. Will Bandana and crew have any part to play in this conflict? It's hard to say, but I wouldn't rule it out.
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Pretty sure Durkon knew perfectly well what was going to happen. And that "vampire obligingly stands in one narrow beam of sunlight and burns to death" wasn't part of the plan.

On a slightly different note, what do you guys think of the new book 6 title?
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:35 PM
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On a slightly different note, what do you guys think of the new book 6 title?
Meh. Not as good as previous titles, to me. But Rich will probably pull out a capper to end the arc that makes the title just perfect.

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Go Mama Thundershield. I wonder if the vampire is about to do something stupid like attack her and break the rules. Although I wonder if the rules are still in effect.
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Stop monologing and whack him already!
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Okay, I don't think anyone saw that twist coming.

If the meeting's over, Durkon presumably gets unpetrified and fighting is permitted IIRC.

On the other hand, you gotta feel bad for the Godsmoot people who aren't allowed to leave until the dwarves vote - and the dwarves now can't vote until they get a new table.

Also, Hel is going to be pissed.


ETA: Scones! Scones and...beer?

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Okay, I don't think anyone saw that twist coming.
I wonder if there'd be a more elegant way to break the table in a single action that relied less on hoping a sufficently sized rock falls on it and cracks it but I'm not familiar enough with the 3.5e cleric spell list to say. My first thought was Shatter but that's a limit to 10lbs per caster level and I assume the table weighs over 140lbs (or where ever Durkon is at post Resurrection/Raising)
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I wonder if there'd be a more elegant way to break the table in a single action that relied less on hoping a sufficently sized rock falls on it and cracks it but I'm not familiar enough with the 3.5e cleric spell list to say. My first thought was Shatter but that's a limit to 10lbs per caster level and I assume the table weighs over 140lbs (or where ever Durkon is at post Resurrection/Raising)
In theory he could have just hit it with the hammer in the first place. But that's less dramatic.
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In theory he could have just hit it with the hammer in the first place. But that's less dramatic.
There might also have been some reason why the table had to be broken by an outside force rather than by something or someone who was inside the room.
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Reading farther down to the next paragraph, of course the dwarves legally mandate light refreshments and beer afterwards!
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In theory he could have just hit it with the hammer in the first place. But that's less dramatic.
I was about to question whether it'd do enough damage to break the table, but he DID just throw it through a stone ceiling. Plot level amounts of damage!
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And yes, Durkon does remember the first time his mama took him to see tha sky.

EDIT: Oh, and "unzot" is the best sound effect ever.

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I get that Burlew gets pissed at people constantly bitching about the plot, bringing up the SRD about things that happen in the strip, and such, and the temptation to flex on those fools must be overwhelming, but enough with the rules-lawyering already.

OTOH, as noted at their forums, the Dwarves unable to vote might preserve the lockdown at the Godsmoot for a short time. Which prevents a bunch of high-level priests from maybe showing up to Kraggor's Gate and crashing the Order's party. The lockdown only needs to last another week or so to run out the clock on Belkar's prophecy anyway, since I don't think Belkar is going to die until the very end of the entire story. I do expect Team Evil to find the Gate by the end of this book.

I wonder how they're going to unstone Durkon? Suspending the vote doesn't seem to have done it. Is the meeting adjourned?

Anyway, this needs to be wrapped up soon. Get us some closure with Hilgya, Kudzu, Durkon's family. What's going to happen with Minrah, are the Order taking the Mechane to the Tomb, or are they getting zapped there one way or another?

An all right book, but I think so far I preferred the last one. Cruder art and all.
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So if Ex-arch (what does that title even mean?!?) attacks Sigdi (as he looks quite about to), does he violate the terms/spells of the council and turn to stone or something? Honestly I've lost track of what someone can/can't do inside which chamber.
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So if Ex-arch (what does that title even mean?!?) attacks Sigdi (as he looks quite about to), does he violate the terms/spells of the council and turn to stone or something? Honestly I've lost track of what someone can/can't do inside which chamber.
Either the meeting is still technically in session and he gets turned to stone if he attacks or it's ended and Durkon should get un-stoned and the other dwarfs outside can come in and attack as well. Neither way ends really well for Gondor (though he's still a rather powerful vampire)
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If the meeting is still technically in session and just temporarily recessed, then Durkon won't automatically turn fleshy again. But it's not a significant problem. There's no Dwarven law against carrying a statue out of a room, and once he's out of the room, Elan or probably Vaarsuvius can restore him.
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But if it's recessed, I don't know whether the "no violence" rule is still in effect. That is, the trigger to create statues and the trigger to undo statues can be different. I'd actually expect them to be different.
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I get that Burlew gets pissed at people constantly bitching about the plot, bringing up the SRD about things that happen in the strip, and such[...]
I suppose the sheer quantity of it must get old but it's not as though there's a lot else to discuss between strips and the length of time between strips is often a week or more. It feels like either you're going to get people talking about that stuff or you're not going to have a community that gets together more than a couple days a month.
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But if it's recessed, I don't know whether the "no violence" rule is still in effect. That is, the trigger to create statues and the trigger to undo statues can be different. I'd actually expect them to be different.
I'd expect it to be a binary switch that either the meeting is in order and the protections are on to guard the meeting or the meeting is adjourned and the protections turn off. Heck, it might be more than that since the blue field was up before the meeting actually started and maybe you ALWAYS get turned to stone when you break the law and just have to wait for the next meeting to be formally adjourned. Stricter but makes more sense than saying "When a meeting is temporarily suspended, feel free to hit the guy next to you with an axe."

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So if Ex-arch (what does that title even mean?!?) .
Exarch: (in the Orthodox Church) a bishop lower in rank than a patriarch and having jurisdiction wider than the metropolitan of a diocese.

In broad terms - upper middle management in a religion. So Durkula would have been the Patriarch, and the Exarch would have been the next level down.
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But he was already an exarch before he got vamped, and with how the Creed of Stone was grousing about not being invited to the meetings, you'd think that they'd send their highest-ranked cleric.
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