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Old 03-06-2019, 09:34 PM
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Tarantino's "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"


I'm looking forward to Quentin Tarantino's next offering, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which hits movie theaters this summer. Set in California in the late Sixties, and with a story that incorporates the Manson Family murders, the movie features an all-star ensemble cast including Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, Margot Robbie, Al Pacino, Damian Lewis, Dakota Fanning, Luke Perry, Lena Dunham, Tim Roth, Michael Madsen, Kurt Russell and others.

There are a few photos from the production on IMDB, revealing some of the costume and set design. Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt look great as the movie's protagonists, a fading actor and his stuntman friend - a bit like a modern-day Robert Redford and Paul Newman from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Being set in Hollywood, there will be some celebrities from the time featuring in the story. One will be actor Steve McQueen, who turned down an invitation to the party at Sharon Tate's home on the night of the murders that occurred there, and who will be played by Damian Lewis - I remember being struck by Lewis' resemblance to McQueen when I first saw him, many years ago. Bruce Lee, who was teaching kung fu to celebrities in Hollywood at the time, will also appear. Lee was a friend of Jay Sebring, a celebrity hair stylist who helped launch Lee's career, and who was murdered along with Tate. Other famous people of the time in the movie include Sharon Tate, Wayne Maunder, Sam Wanamaker, Roman Polanski, Joanna Pettet and Connie Stevens. The full cast/character list has not yet been revealed. I wonder if Dennis Wilson from The Beach Boys will appear? He became acquainted with Charles Manson, bought a song off of him and released it on a Beach Boys album with himself credited as songwriter.

The role of Charles Manson must surely not have been an easy cast. Manson will be played by actor Damon Herriman, pictured here with a beard from another acting role. Here's a clip of him playing some felon-type character. I think he could be a good fit for the role. He's actually set to appear in another unrelated TV series, playing a later-life imprisoned Charles Manson, and was apparently cast in that role before the Tarantino movie.

The set design photos also look great, and the set designers must have had fun creating an authentic look. Here's Taco Bell in the '60s, and in the movie. Here's a Pussycat adult theater (actually a photo from the '80s) and in the movie. I'm also looking forward to seeing DiCaprio's character on the set of real life '60s TV variety show Hullabaloo.

On a more serious note, Tarantino is known for the violence that features in his movies, and he has received criticism for it by some, so it will be interesting to see how he handles the horrific murders perpetrated by the Manson family. His other movies have used fictional characters and events - essentially fantasy - but this time the people and events are real.

In any case, I think this has the potential to be one of Tarantino's most important movies, so I will wait in anticipation.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:40 AM
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Yep, this is one I'll "see in the theater". The last time I saw a movie in a theater was Gravity back in 2013.
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:45 AM
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If Tarantino ever has a shot at best picture or director Oscar this will be it. Because you just know the academy loves, loves, loves movies about themselves.
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Can't wait. Really was not the biggest fan of H8, hope for a rebound here.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:13 AM
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Tarantino's movies usually feature cartoonish violence, which might not fit when making a movie about real people and real violence. I'm definitely interested though, say what you want about Tarantino, he doesn't make the same old crap that's being churned out by other directors.
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I understand Clu Gulager will be in it. I appreciate QTs eye for old, great Hollywood talent and appreciate him casting Clu.
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Those IMDB photos are interesting, thanks for the link.

I wonder if Brad Pitt's right elbow is really that messed up or if it's makeup for his character?
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Tarantino's movies are for the most part simply an excuse for "gratuitous violence."

But I will never forget the twisting contest scene won by John travolta & Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction (1994).

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But I will never forget the twisting contest scene won by John travolta & Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction (1994).
They didn't win, they stole the trophy.
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Yep, this is one I'll "see in the theater". The last time I saw a movie in a theater was Gravity back in 2013.
My husband and I might drag ourselves out for this one too! I think the last movie he saw in the theater was over ten years ago.
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Can't wait. Really was not the biggest fan of H8, hope for a rebound here.
Yep, that was the only disappointing film he's done in my book. I hope that was a blip rather than the start of a downward trajectory.
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There are (supposedly) three films in production regarding Sharon Tate and all that. (50th anniversary.) They are (actress: title):

Margot Robbie: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Kate Bosworth: Tate

Hilary Duff: The Haunting of Sharon Tate

Two have respectable people and such involved. The last one appears to be a generic horror/slasher type film.

The Tate film I have questions about whether it's going to really make it to theaters. Her husband is directing it. It does seem to be the one with the most support from the Tate family.

Having multiple versions come out at the same time tends to hurt films all sorts of ways, including with awards.

I'm still waiting for the definitive version with Jessica Paré.
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Margot Robbie: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Interesting coincidence (to me). Tarantino's movie Jackie Brown (based on the Elmore Leonard novel Rum Punch) has a character named Ordell Robbie.
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They didn't win, they stole the trophy.
Well I made them winners.
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I wonder if Brad Pitt's right elbow is really that messed up or if it's makeup for his character?
I noticed the creases and saw it as a sign that even Brad Pitt gets old, but there's a curious mark around the elbow, so it could perhaps have been added in make-up to embellish his character's role as a stuntman. Or maybe it's just a temporary imprint caused by Brad resting his arm on something for a period of time - he does look pretty chilled in the production set photos for this movie.

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There are (supposedly) three films in production regarding Sharon Tate and all that. (50th anniversary.) They are (actress: title):

Margot Robbie: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Kate Bosworth: Tate

Hilary Duff: The Haunting of Sharon Tate

Two have respectable people and such involved. The last one appears to be a generic horror/slasher type film.

The Tate film I have questions about whether it's going to really make it to theaters. Her husband is directing it. It does seem to be the one with the most support from the Tate family.

Having multiple versions come out at the same time tends to hurt films all sorts of ways, including with awards.

I'm still waiting for the definitive version with Jessica Paré.
That's interesting. I didn't know about the other two movies.

Yeah, it doesn't look like there's much happening with the Tate movie, judging by its IMDB page.

I just watched the trailer for The Haunting of Sharon Tate. It seemed to be a rather low-grade mash-up of archive footage of Manson family, a recording of Manson singing one of his songs, generic slasher horror, and supernatural elements. I can see why someone might find it a bit sensationalist, vulgar or insensitive.

It doesn't look like we need fear the same with Tarantino's treatment, though. Debra Tate, Sharon Tate's surviving sister, has reportedly approved the Tarantino movie, saying:
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"I approve of it. It will be a surprise. It’s not what I thought it was going to be when I read the script. Of course you hear the name Tarantino and Manson in the same sentence and you formulate what you think it will probably be like, but that’s not it. It’s not at all what people are expecting it to be."
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Maybe it will be again alternate history and Tate and the other guests fight their attackers, overcome them and go on a revenge hunt for Manson. You never know with Tarantino.

ETA: including a foot fetish scene, of course...
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Well I made them winners.
So have I, for many years. Did not know this-

After the movie's iconic dance scene, you see Vincent Vega and Mia Wallace walk into her house holding a trophy. The audience assumes they won the contest, but later in the film, a barely audible advert states the trophy had been stolen - meaning Vince and Mia lost the competition then stole the trophy.

No link, it's a click bait site
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Maybe it will be again alternate history and Tate and the other guests fight their attackers, overcome them and go on a revenge hunt for Manson. You never know with Tarantino.

ETA: including a foot fetish scene, of course...
I certainly hope not. I hope it is a more crime movie like Pulp (first date with my wife) or Jackie Brown. I have not loved one of his movies since the latter. I've enjoyed a few, and promptly forgotten them.

I will see this one in a theatre.

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First official poster was released.
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I'm wondering if there will be any backlash due to his previous films being attached to Weinstein.....and this movie might show a pregnant woman getting killed? Yikes on the timing....
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There will be some articles, but hardly a backlash. Weinstein helped make Tarantino, yes, but Tarantino helped in the making of Weinstein.

In addition, as noted, the script has been shown to Tate's family and at least one sister approves. There is also the very distinct possibility that the murders/bodies are not even shown.

Lastly, QT has already made a movie where a pregnant woman was (thought to be) killed. Won't be the first time.

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So have I, for many years. Did not know this-

After the movie's iconic dance scene, you see Vincent Vega and Mia Wallace walk into her house holding a trophy. The audience assumes they won the contest, but later in the film, a barely audible advert states the trophy had been stolen - meaning Vince and Mia lost the competition then stole the trophy.

No link, it's a click bait site
I don't believe that's true. I just went back and watched the scene that supposedly says the trophy was stolen. It's the part where Butch is sneaking back to his apartment to get his watch. When he's walking beside one of the houses before he crosses the vacant lot there is an advertisement for Jack Rabbit Slims playing in the background. I turned up the volume all the way; and it's definitely an advertisement, not a news report. The only thing it says is something about a milkshake.

Also, there's this... http://legendsrevealed.com/entertain...-pulp-fiction/
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That's Michael Bay.
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That's Michael Bay.
I admittedly haven't seen a Michael Bay movie in a while, but I would have thought his movies were for the most part simply an excuse for "gratuitous explosions." Has he changed that much?

Sure, you could say that about QT's movies; but the violence in Kill Bill for example was so over the top it was so cartoonish it softened the gore if it. Compare that to something like The Passion of the Christ where you see flesh being ripped off. Totally different IMHO.
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There's a difference between violence and action. Kill Bill is an action movie, although some of the action is quite violent. Hateful 8, in turn, is a very violent movie, but has nearly no action.

Personally, I think Tarantino is an extremely talented director of action movies, and I wish he'd make more of them.

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There's a difference between violence and action. Kill Bill is an action movie, although some of the action is quite violent. Hateful 8, in turn, is a very violent movie, but has nearly no action.

Personally, I think Tarantino is an extremely talented director of action movies, and I wish he'd make more of them.
I think action, violence, and gore are at least three distinct yet often overlapping terms here.

But my point about Michael Bay is that, to me at least, the explosions are the reason for the movie vs Tarantino, the violence/gore actually add to, or punctuate the story.
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It's not a trailer. It's a teaser.

I can't wait to see this movie.
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The Duff movie The Haunting of Sharon Tate has been (supposedly) been released. I find no box office info on Box Office Mojo. And it's available from Amazon already. Direct to video?

It's as bad as you'd expect it. 14% at RT. 3.2/10 audience rating on IMDb.

Very strangely it's already listed as having won 3 awards from something called the Hollywood Reel Independent Film Festival Awards. I guess these folks are cheaper than the Golden Globes nowadays.

Like I said, sometimes films on the same topic can parasitize each other. Probably not in this case.

I think Tarantino can beat this.
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Tarantino makes movies about movies. Inglourious Basterds, for example, obviously wasn't about World War II. But it also wasn't just a WWII action thriller. It was a movie about WWII action thrillers.

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There's another upcoming Manson movie called Charlie Says, featuring Matt "Doctor Who" Smith as Manson. Here's the trailer.
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OMFG, I was channel-surfing last night and saw a few seconds of a scene from a 1988 episode of The Golden Girls. There, in the back row of a pack of Elvis impersonators at the wedding of one of the main characters, was QT himself. IMDB says it was his third acting gig: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8e/0e/21/8...-tarantino.jpg
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World premiere at Cannes is in less than an hour.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/1130869100861972484
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And a new trailer.
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And now the reviews are coming in. At RT as of now there are 7, all positive.
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And now the reviews are coming in. At RT as of now there are 7, all positive.
Looking at some reviews, it's been getting 5/5 stars. 220 IMDb users have given it a weighted average vote of 9.7/10, with 89.1% giving it 10/10.

I partially read a couple of reviews, but don't want to read any more, as I'd like to see the movie without any preconditioned thoughts about it.
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Any chance QT got permission to use any White Album tunes in this movie? Probably not but how cool would it be to hear “Helter Skelter” blasting over the end credits? (Especially if this is “rewriting” of history?)
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Great trailer.

I didn't know that "official" trailers (which that one was) are now allowed to say 'fuck'. Nice.
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The trailer is great. July 26 can't get here soon enough.
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Love his stuff, even the duds are a worthy watch as there is always someway in which he is playing with you.

No UK release until August but I may have a USA work trip at end of July so that'll be my little treat.
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Great trailer.

I didn't know that "official" trailers (which that one was) are now allowed to say 'fuck'. Nice.
A "red band trailer" is one where R-rated stuff is allowed. They were supposed to be shown only in theaters already playing an R-rated film. Due to having to keep everything straight they weren't often made and even less often played. Easier to run the regular one.

But thanks to the Internet, red band trailers are more common and easier to watch. Not all (if any) red band trailers online today start with the standard red bands the MPAA imposed on such trailers.

I searched YouTube for "red band trailer" and got a lot of hits. The ones I checked didn't seem to have the red bands at all. And some require the age 18 login thing.
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... and who will be played by Damian Lewis - I remember being struck by Lewis' resemblance to McQueen when I first saw him, many years ago.
I thought the exact same thing.

Given Tarantino's love of martial arts movies, the Bruce Lee scenes could be pretty cool.
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And the big winners at Cannes have been announced. And OUaTiH has won the most cherished prize of the all: The Palm Dog Award. That is not a typo.

The dog's name is "Brandy", btw.

It's a "prize" for best canine in a film.

This is Tarintino's second Palm Dog. The first was for the black poodle in Inglourious Basterds. But that was a 3-way prize shared with the dog from Up and a fox (gasp!).
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Bought my tickets today: 4pm, Thursday, 35mm at the Alamo Drafthouse.

I saw my first Tarantino movie in 1994 (PF, of course.) This one is special for me because I'm taking my near 18yo daughter... who obviously didn't exist in 1994... with me. It will be the first time we've seen a QT movie together in the theater, and on opening day as well.

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