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Old 07-14-2019, 08:43 PM
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...but she could still be a great character in great movies....
I completely agree with you. Hollywood, go write some. Make the next John Wick-type action fantasy a setting where this actress of color can go kick ass and entertain billions.

Instead of bastardizing a popular series and character to pander to someone's idea of social retributive justice.
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:48 PM
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But this could be awesome, if done right. She won't be Bond, but she could still be a great character in great movies. It's okay to pass the torch, and it's okay if the torch sometimes passes to a black woman.
It seems unlikely to me that this new 007 will "carry the torch" in future films and take over the role of being the film series' new hero, replacing James Bond. I think it much more likely that this will be the last of the Daniel Craig Bond movies, and then there'll be a reboot/new Doctor Who James Bond incarnation. That would mean the 007 position would need to be vacant for the "new" Bond. Ergo, the 007 character in this movie will be killed during the course of the movie, so there'll be a blank slate again for the next guy (probably).
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:53 PM
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Get woke. Go broke. Because Star Wars and Ghostbusters did so well...
...the only Star Wars movie to be considered a flop was Solo, where the protaganist was decidedly a straight white guy. And Ghostbusters didn't fail because it had a female cast, but because it wasn't a good movie. Captain Marvel and Black Panther "went woke" and didn't "go broke." They "went woke and made billions." Just like The Last Jedi did.

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If the producers are going to pander to current whims, they could have at least picked an attractive actress.
Wow.

I know that standards of beauty are subjective, but this sentence you wrote is about the ugliest thing I've read all day. And I read Trump's latest tweets just a few minutes ago.

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I'm not the only one that will be switching off.

Doctor Who's ratings have dropped to an all time low since it was restarted in 2005.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...ow-bbc-1172109

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In fact, according to Vulture, Whittaker’s first season in the role of the Thirteenth Doctor has garnered more American viewers than those of former Time Lords Matt Smith, David Tennant, and Christopher Eccleston.

As Vulture’s Josef Adalian notes, Whittaker’s success in comparison to some of her predecessors is particularly impressive given that television ratings across the board have been trending downward for years. The season’s first eight episodes averaged 1.6 million viewers on BBC America (counting delayed viewing and on-demand replays)—a 20 percent jump from Peter Capaldi’s final season as the Doctor, which doubled as the last season for longtime Who executive producers Steven Moffat and Brian Minchin.
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However, come ep five, the catchily-titled 'The Tsuranga Conundrum', we find there's now 7.76m watching on television (consolidated). As you can see, this means that just under 3 million viewers have stopped keeping up to date with the adventures of the Gallifreyan (for the moment, at least).

But let's give this some context.

A very similar thing – if not exactly the same – happened with Christopher Eccleston's Ninth Doctor in 2005: he kicked off with 10.91 million but saw viewership drop by 4 million during his run with Billie Piper's Rose.

And it's the same story for Jodie's other predecessors: both Tennant's first and third series saw dips of around 3 million during their airings; over 3.5 million fell away for Matt Smith's 2010 episodes (his opening year in the TARDIS); and Peter Capaldi witnessed a 2.5 million drop in his freshman year.

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The most successful season was in 2008 with the Tenth Doctor and Donna Noble, hitting an average of 8.05m, while the "worst" was Peter Capaldi's final run in 2017, with 5.45m.

Jodie Whittaker's Thirteenth Doctor has amassed a very impressive average of 8.55m so far (these figures come from the first half of series 11) – which means that this year is on target to be the biggest since Who's return in 2005.
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a87042...die-whittaker/

I don't think Doctor Who has anything to worry about. And if it did: then I would suggest to you that it might have absolutely nothing to do with a female Doctor at all: I found the weakest part of last season was Chris Chibnall and his writing, I much more enjoyed the episodes he didn't write than the ones that he did. So if there has been a drop-off, then maybe you could consider the change of show-runner to be more significant than the change of actor?
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:57 PM
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Anyone else remember how in 2015 (just prior to the release of Spectre) Daniel Craig was hilariously emphatic that he'd never do another Bond film? "I’d rather break this glass and slash my wrists. No, not at the moment. Not at all. That’s fine. I’m over it at the moment. We’re done. All I want to do is move on."

Guess he changed his mind.
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Old 07-14-2019, 09:13 PM
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And I like the idea that the 00 designation can be handed down to other agents.
In the books, there were (IIRC) three or four other agents with the 00 prefix besides Bond. I don't see why a retiring agent's number couldn't be passed to a new agent, and obviously in this day and age there's no reason to assume that a British Secret Service agent would have to be white or male.
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Maybe so. Let's see how it goes.

I've seen every Bond premier in a theater since Live and Let Die. I saw the earlier ones on TV.
I'm about the same age as you because Live and Let Die was my first Bond movie and up until the second and later Brosnan films they were required viewing at the theater. When the older films were shown on TV, we were able to stay up a bit later to see them.

Having a non white female take over the role does not mean deleting every previous incarnation. Part of me feels Bond should have never left the Cold War era and while I will watch the current movies if I'm in the mood for a Bond movie I'll watch one of the older ones.

Frankly, I have been bored with the most recent Bond movies and still haven't seen Specter. Having a woman take the role might get me interested in it again because it would be something different. The main thing is that the movie is good.
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Old 07-14-2019, 09:29 PM
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I don't care if a black woman plays 007 and/or James Bond so long as I don't get told that I HAVE to like the movies and that if I don't the reason is racism/misogyny.
I, for the record, haven't quite liked to last few 007 films so a change might do good.
I also have no idea who the actress is, however, they should've picked a much better looking one. Looks have always been part of the character; maybe Maisie Richardson-Sellers or Camille Hyde? Freema Agyeman?

(Idris Elba would've been great 10 or 15 years ago, he's too old to play the role for any extended period of time)
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Old 07-14-2019, 09:32 PM
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Having a non white female take over the role does not mean deleting every previous incarnation. Part of me feels Bond should have never left the Cold War era and while I will watch the current movies if I'm in the mood for a Bond movie I'll watch one of the older ones.
Really, if you wanted to update the Bond films to the present day, the Chinese government would be as likely to be the antagonists as the Russian government. It's just that the movie studio wants to release the movie in China.
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"Bond is having to learn to deal with the world of #metoo"

1. Didn't Austin Powers do that 20+ years ago??

2. Why would Bond give a flying fuck about that??? He SAVES THE WORLD. That's why he has a licence to kill. Along with that comes a licence to fuck, drink and do anything he damn well pleases to....again...SAVE THE WORLD.

3. Why are the producers spoiling the GD movie?

4. Again....this was already sort of covered with Pierce Brosnan. I've only seen the first three Craig movies, and from what I recall, Bond is a broken alcoholic who doesn't particularly fuck his way through the movies. He used that one woman he got killed in Casino (and felt the appropriate amount of guilt a broken aloholic who saves the world feels.) And of course was genuinely in love with Vesper.


I predict this will feature an Abrams-level deconstruction of Craig/Bond and be an utter disaster that will be blamed on the Patriarchy.
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Old 07-14-2019, 09:50 PM
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I hope it's a good movie.
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Old 07-14-2019, 09:56 PM
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If they're going to do a show about MI6 in a "#metoo world"....its M that should be embroiled in it. He's the public face, and ripe for scandals and being hamstrung and I'd applaud if the angle was a satirical one (Narf, like that will happen)

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Really, if you wanted to update the Bond films to the present day, the Chinese government would be as likely to be the antagonists as the Russian government. It's just that the movie studio wants to release the movie in China.
That I would like to see. It would help make up for the one where Connery does the yellow face nonsense.
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Old 07-14-2019, 10:45 PM
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Maybe so. Let's see how it goes.

I've seen every Bond premier in a theater since Live and Let Die. I saw the earlier ones on TV.
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Old 07-14-2019, 10:53 PM
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Anyone else remember how in 2015 (just prior to the release of Spectre) Daniel Craig was hilariously emphatic that he'd never do another Bond film? "I’d rather break this glass and slash my wrists. No, not at the moment. Not at all. That’s fine. I’m over it at the moment. We’re done. All I want to do is move on."

Guess he changed his mind.
Here is how these things happen:

1. It takes Daniel Craig over a year of his life at this point to make a Bond movie. He is involved in pre and post production as well.

2. SPECTRE was very, very draining. And honestly, its second half was weak and disappointing. I bet Craig knew this. I am hoping this one makes up for it(like Star Trek VI tried to do after the dismal V).

3. People say things when they are tired right after something and then take a break and get the energy to go back to work.
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Here is how these things happen:

1. It takes Daniel Craig over a year of his life at this point to make a Bond movie. He is involved in pre and post production as well.

2. SPECTRE was very, very draining. And honestly, its second half was weak and disappointing. I bet Craig knew this. I am hoping this one makes up for it(like Star Trek VI tried to do after the dismal V).

3. People say things when they are tired right after something and then take a break and get the energy to go back to work.
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"Bond is having to learn to deal with the world of #metoo"

1. Didn't Austin Powers do that 20+ years ago??

2. Why would Bond give a flying fuck about that??? He SAVES THE WORLD. That's why he has a licence to kill. Along with that comes a licence to fuck, drink and do anything he damn well pleases to....again...SAVE THE WORLD.

3. Why are the producers spoiling the GD movie?

4. Again....this was already sort of covered with Pierce Brosnan. I've only seen the first three Craig movies, and from what I recall, Bond is a broken alcoholic who doesn't particularly fuck his way through the movies. He used that one woman he got killed in Casino (and felt the appropriate amount of guilt a broken aloholic who saves the world feels.) And of course was genuinely in love with Vesper.


I predict this will feature an Abrams-level deconstruction of Craig/Bond and be an utter disaster that will be blamed on the Patriarchy.
So, not your cuppa basically?
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So, not your cuppa basically?
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Old 07-14-2019, 11:23 PM
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If Phoebe Waller Bridge is involved, I'll consider seeing this, my first James Bond/ 007 movie since Never Say Never Again.

I think worrying whether the actress is attractive enough is silly (though she looks perfectly fine to me). If the actress is good enough, she'll make it work. Charisma is what carries the role.

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Splitting 007 from James Bond was done in the awful psychedelic Casino Royale and is tainted by that association.

I had hoped Noemie Harris would get more screen time and maybe be another 00 agent, but no, she was Moneypenny.

I don't think Lynch can carry a movie. And having Craig 'save' her would stink.
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I'll see just about any 007 movie, and thought Lynch was good in a supporting role in Captain Marvel, so I'm willing to give her a shot.
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I also have no idea who the actress is, however, they should've picked a much better looking one. Looks have always been part of the character
Yeah, specifically looking suave, sexy, sophisticated and tough, which AFAICT Lashana Lynch handles quite nicely.

But not "gorgeous" or "stunning" in a matinee-idol way: that's not Bond. Look at Daniel Craig as the most recent Bond, for instance: he's virile but definitely not conventionally handsome. Bond has always been (presented as) a sexy guy but not a pretty boy, and IMHO the new 007 shouldn't be a pretty girl.

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maybe Maisie Richardson-Sellers or Camille Hyde? Freema Agyeman?
All too much in the "pretty girl" camp as far as looks are concerned, IMHO. And Hyde in particular looks (and is) much too young at 25 to play a jaded thirtysomething secret-agent assassin.

A lot of guys seem to be thinking along the lines that if 007 can't be James Bond, she should at least be a "Bond girl", so if they can't identify with the protagonist as a man they can at least view her as a fantasy-object hot woman. Not surprisingly, as that's what decades of such movies have conditioned men to expect. It will be interesting to see if the moviemakers really buck that expectation by making the new 007 as assertive and unapologetic as the male Bond. (Can you imagine what Bond on an undercover mission would have said to a new handler who complained that "they should've picked a much better looking one"? I'd enjoy seeing Lynch's 007 reacting the same way.)
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Storm in a teacup. We all know Bond will revert to being 007 at the end of the movie.

I just want spin-offs about other agents and staff at MI6 (or whatever the heck the fictional branch of the agency is called these days).
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Storm in a teacup. We all know Bond will revert to being 007 at the end of the movie.
Probably true. Remember how the restoration of order at the end of Skyfall had the (late) female M succeeded by the new guy, with a distinct subtext of "hooray lads, back to normal at last"? I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new movie went basically the same route.

Tough black female 007 character to look like the franchise is broadening its horizons, shitshow ensues, Bond saves the new girl's bacon but not her life, movie ends on note of triumphant reassurance about familiar white guy being back in the driver's seat. Appeals to both pro-diversity viewers (the first part) and the franchise traditionalists (the last bit).
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Probably true. Remember how the restoration of order at the end of Skyfall had the (late) female M succeeded by the new guy, with a distinct subtext of "hooray lads, back to normal at last"? I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new movie went basically the same route.

Tough black female 007 character to look like the franchise is broadening its horizons, shitshow ensues, Bond saves the new girl's bacon but not her life, movie ends on note of triumphant reassurance about familiar white guy being back in the driver's seat. Appeals to both pro-diversity viewers (the first part) and the franchise traditionalists (the last bit).
I disagree completely with that assessment of M, and we can bet on the end of the next Bond film if you'd like
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Now I'm imagining John "I'm a PC" Hodgman as Bond.
Given that Bond is British, I rather think you mean David Mitchell. And I would gladly pay double the admission price to see Mitchell as 007.
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I completely understand the situation. A different person is 007.
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Well he does say he could care less, so he obviously cares very much. No contradiction.
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Given that Bond is British, I rather think you mean David Mitchell. And I would gladly pay double the admission price to see Mitchell as 007.
"Um- hey- hey! If you wouldn't mind, I'd like... um... uh... a martini vodka. And I need it to be shaken, but- You, hey, are you listening? I lost him. I lost another waiter. Oh, boy, this is going to be one of those nights, I can feel it. Great, and now I'm having acid reflux. Ugh. Hey. Hey! Excuse me! Excuse me! I need an Omeprazole! Hello? Nobody's listening. Ooooh. I'm going home. I'm sure 006 can take care of that Blofeld fella."
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Given that Bond is British, I rather think you mean David Mitchell. And I would gladly pay double the admission price to see Mitchell as 007.
He's more of a Bond villain than a Bond...
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Just looked her up thinking she was American for a hot second.

Now THAT would be something to be outraged about.
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...the only Star Wars movie to be considered a flop was Solo, where the protaganist was decidedly a straight white guy. And Ghostbusters didn't fail because it had a female cast, but because it wasn't a good movie.
Frankly I'll take Solo and Rogue One over the tedious The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi any day.

And I agree about the female-cast Ghostbusters: the cast were fine, but the script was awful. By the time they shoehorned in cameos from the original cast, the name, the logo, the car, the catchphrase, the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man and Slimer, they'd used up about half the runtime of the film. I wouldn't mind a sequel as long as it's a new story and not a Zuul rehash.

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I'm about the same age as you because Live and Let Die was my first Bond movie and up until the second and later Brosnan films they were required viewing at the theater. When the older films were shown on TV, we were able to stay up a bit later to see them.

Having a non white female take over the role does not mean deleting every previous incarnation. Part of me feels Bond should have never left the Cold War era and while I will watch the current movies if I'm in the mood for a Bond movie I'll watch one of the older ones.

Frankly, I have been bored with the most recent Bond movies and still haven't seen Specter. Having a woman take the role might get me interested in it again because it would be something different. The main thing is that the movie is good.
Yeah, frankly I'm at the point where the franchise is just so fundamentally tapped out that something fresh and new - particularly when a talented writer is involved - is worth trying. PW-B can't "ruin" the Bond franchise; it's already about as interesting as a pile of day-old dogshit.
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Mitchell and Webb are not fans of James Bond.

You put the Barry Nelson link twice.

I think you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIfSQW499Xc
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Funniest thing I've read in weeks.
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You put the Barry Nelson link twice.

I think you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIfSQW499Xc
Oops - mea culpa. Yes, that's the link I meant to post. Ta muchly.
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...I do feel like Bond should be a male character just given that the character (as it has come to be in film) is intended to be a chauvinist pig...
This is kind of where I stand. I'm not a huge fan of Bond movies, and that's part of why not.

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Storm in a teacup. We all know Bond will revert to being 007 at the end of the movie...
I bet you are right.
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007 will be played by a black actress, not James Bond. James retired at the end of Spectre, so the code was given to someone else. We've seen other double 0's before.
Quantity vs. quality. This simple post totally clarifies the situation.
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I disagree completely with that assessment of M, and we can bet on the end of the next Bond film if you'd like
What do you disagree about in the "assessment" of M? That the female M died in Skyfall and was succeeded by a male character in the role of M? Those are definite in-universe facts, AFAICT.

Or that there was arguably a tone of retro triumphalism in the eventual return to a more familiar male-dominated Bond-film structure, with former field agent Eve becoming M's executive secretary Moneypenny, and the movie ending on Bond's line where he calls the new M "Sir"? Yeah, I still think that interpretation holds up.

As for betting, I think you may have misread my "wouldn't be at all surprised if" as "willing to bet that" GuanoLad's confident prediction about James Bond becoming 007 again turns out to be true. But I'm curious: how do you think the new movie's going to end? Will the new 007 survive and retain 007 status? And will that lead to future "Bond movies" (really "007 movies" now, I guess) with her as the protagonist?
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I'll see just about any 007 movie, and thought Lynch was good in a supporting role in Captain Marvel, so I'm willing to give her a shot.
Oh, her? Hmm.

I have to say, That's the only thing that bothers me about this whole thing - I really thought she was the weakest link in that film's generally strong cast. She had no real personality as a character, and even worse, she didn't have any chemistry with Brie Larson. I hope she does a better job as 007.
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Is this one going to actually be the last Craig as Bond movie you think?

Assuming so, do they just reset Bond again, starting with the character young again, if not at the start somewhere in the middle?

How many times will fans keeping coming back to franchise restarts do you think?
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I always thought it would be interesting to do a Bond origin story movie, showing him as a teenager at Eton and then university, and eventually being recruited by British intelligence. Sort of like the Young Sherlock Holmes film from 1985.
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:13 AM
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I always thought it would be interesting to do a Bond origin story movie, showing him as a teenager at Eton and then university, and eventually being recruited by British intelligence. Sort of like the Young Sherlock Holmes film from 1985.
Honestly, I've always wanted a post WWII period Bond movie. More in sync with the Ian Fleming books (or even more realistic, since Fleming wasn't above Pulp-ish moments like villains leaving Bond in deadly traps for no reason)

I even have the perfect actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, fairly similar in age and looks with OG Bond. Maybe Tom Hiddleston.
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Really, if you wanted to update the Bond films to the present day, the Chinese government would be as likely to be the antagonists as the Russian government. It's just that the movie studio wants to release the movie in China.
Somebody needs to get the rights to the John Gardner novel Icebreaker. Neo-Nazis hiding in Finland.
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What do you disagree about in the "assessment" of M? That the female M died in Skyfall and was succeeded by a male character in the role of M? Those are definite in-universe facts, AFAICT.

Or that there was arguably a tone of retro triumphalism in the eventual return to a more familiar male-dominated Bond-film structure, with former field agent Eve becoming M's executive secretary Moneypenny, and the movie ending on Bond's line where he calls the new M "Sir"? Yeah, I still think that interpretation holds up.

As for betting, I think you may have misread my "wouldn't be at all surprised if" as "willing to bet that" GuanoLad's confident prediction about James Bond becoming 007 again turns out to be true. But I'm curious: how do you think the new movie's going to end? Will the new 007 survive and retain 007 status? And will that lead to future "Bond movies" (really "007 movies" now, I guess) with her as the protagonist?
But....why wouldn't he call M, 'sir'?
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You know, the intent of casting Halle Berry as "Jinx" in Die Another Day was to set up a platform for a spinoff with a black female James Bondian character. I still think she'd be good at it.:

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Speculation arose in 2003 of a spin-off film concentrating on Jinx, which was scheduled for a November/December 2004 release. It was originally reported that MGM was keen to set up a film series that would be a "winter olympics" alternative to the main series. In the late 1990s, MGM had originally considered developing a spin-off film based on Michelle Yeoh's character, Wai Lin, in 1997's Tomorrow Never Dies. However, despite much speculation of an imminent movie, on 26 October 2003, Variety reported that MGM had completely pulled the plug on this project, to the dismay of Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson of Eon Productions, who were reported to be "clearly furious" about the decision.[42] MGM was keen to instead move on with the next film, Casino Royale.[43]
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I'll be there, as usual, watching the movie. And chances are, I'll be disappointed. Again.

The best "Bond movies" are called Mission Impossible these days.

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Oh, her? Hmm.

I have to say, That's the only thing that bothers me about this whole thing - I really thought she was the weakest link in that film's generally strong cast. She had no real personality as a character, and even worse, she didn't have any chemistry with Brie Larson. I hope she does a better job as 007.
Come to think of it, when I think of her scenes in Captain Marvel, what mostly comes to mind is Carol Danvers interacting with Monica Rambeaux (the kid), with Maria somewhere in the background. I can't say she did a bad job, but she certainly wasn't headlining.
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I was hoping for a Mexican James Bond
I confess I immediately thought albondigas, Spanish for meatballs.
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Storm in a teacup. We all know Bond will revert to being 007 at the end of the movie.
I wouldn't be surprised if it happens before the opening credits.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it happens before the opening credits.
Yep, this has got pre-credit sequence written all over it. It's a fine piece of PR work if so...
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By the time the movie hits the rental market, home users will likely be able to DeepFake her out with a young Sean Connery. Hopefully someone will make a version leaving all of Craig's flirting intact.
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