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[AK84]

Originally Posted by AK84

Stan Kronenke is one of the owners of the Rams?
Fuck the Rams then. Man has ruined Arsenal.

Apparently the Patriots are a racist MAGA supporting team..
(I thought New England was a liberal region )
Ugghh, but still, Kronenke!

[Procrustus]

Originally Posted by AK84

Apparently the Patriots are a racist MAGA supporting team..
(I thought New England was a liberal region )
Ugghh, but still, Kronenke!

I’m not a fan of either team. The MAGA thing makes it easy to root for the Rams , for one day at least.

[Atamasama]

Interesting, the left wing version of Breitbart really hates the Pats.

I’d guess 95% of the players aren’t Trump supporters. (I’m probably under exaggerating.)

[Procrustus]

Originally Posted by Atamasama

Interesting, the left wing version of Breitbart really hates the Pats.

I’d guess 95% of the players aren’t Trump supporters. (I’m probably under exaggerating.)

So, I’ll base it on the owner, head coach, and star quarterback.

[Velocity]

Originally Posted by asahi

Which is a testament to the Belichick, Kraft, and Brady and their organizational system. The Patriots are coached and trained to make every play count and to win tight games.

Except that, in most of their Super Bowls, the Brady-Belichick Patriots were favored to win, and ended up either losing or winning only very narrowly. If a team is really trained to "make every play count," they wouldn't have to cut it so narrowly; they should have won at least one or two Super Bowls by large margins by now.

Take the Patriots' fellow 5-Lombardi peers as comparison: the Niners and Cowboys. The Niners have won one Super Bowl by 45 points (SBXXIV) and the Cowboys one by 35 points (SBXXVII). Statistically, one would expect the Patriots to have won one Super Bowl by a hefty margin. The Brady-Belichick streak of eight Super Bowls all decided by one score is an anomaly.

[Atamasama]

Originally Posted by Procrustus

So, I’ll base it on the owner, head coach, and star quarterback.

Totally fair. Saying the team is led by MAGA folks is supported by overwhelming evidence.

I’d certainly never stand in the way of another person despising the Patriots.

[Atamasama]

Originally Posted by Velocity

Take the Patriots' fellow 5-Lombardi peers as comparison: the Niners and Cowboys. The Niners have won one Super Bowl by 45 points (SBXXIV) and the Cowboys one by 35 points (SBXXVII). Statistically, one would expect the Patriots to have won one Super Bowl by a hefty margin. The Brady-Belichick streak of eight Super Bowls all decided by one score is an anomaly.

I think it has to do with New England’s “play not to lose” philosophy. Much is made about how the team frequently tailors its game strategy to target an opponent’s strengths and cripple them. Compare that to other teams that know their own strengths and try to capitalize on them. Dragging down an opponent rather than pushing yourself generally leads to situations where you’re not set up to blow out your opponents.

So I’d agree it’s an anomaly, but I’d also suggest that nobody should assume it’s a coincidence or an accident.

[Intergalactic Gladiator]

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh….. Rams.

Anyone against the Patriots generally gets my vote. Rams ownership sucks for moving to LA and they got in on a missed call against the Saints. Blah blah blah, Rams.

[eschereal]

I am not entirely sure about Brady. I remember they won the Lombardy in 2017 and Brady could not go with the team to the Whitehouse because he had something more important to do that day.

[BobLibDem]

Rams win but Suh gets ejected in first quarter and has no impact on the outcome. Tom Brady throws 20 interceptions and the center gets ejected for deflating the ball at the line of scrimmage. Belichick lies on sideline in fetal position throughout the 4th quarter.

[Jackmannii]

It would've been easy if it had been the Saints against the Patriots.

Now it's sorta like Alabama vs. Clemson, trying to decide between Famine and Pestilence.

If the Rams win, then there'll be endless nauseating crap about the Boy Wonder Coach and the Wonderful Young Quarterback.

If the Patriots triumph, we'll hear tons of bullshit about the godlike Brady and the marvelous Patriots dynasty.

Yeah, I suppose it'd be minimally more tolerable if L.A. won.

[RickJay]

Originally Posted by Ulfreida

I'm rooting for all the people who go bicycling on the emptied streets, the people who meet to work on their knitting projects together, and all the people who say, "Superbowl? That's today? That's a football game, right? I've heard of it ... somewhere."

If it doesn't interest you, why post about it? Let people enjoy the things they enjoy.

[jsc1953]

Originally Posted by RickJay

If it doesn't interest you, why post about it? Let people enjoy the things they enjoy.

Yeah, there’s a term for that: threadshitting.

[cmkeller]

I will never root for the Patriots because of the way Belichick dumped the Jets to become their head coach. Zero class.

[Chronos]

So, we did (sort of) get a meteor hitting the stadium at halftime, at which point the score was nearly as low as it's possible to be. Did that make you guys happy?

[Atamasama]

Originally Posted by Chronos

So, we did (sort of) get a meteor hitting the stadium at halftime, at which point the score was nearly as low as it's possible to be. Did that make you guys happy?

For me it was closer than I could realistically expect it to be so yes, I’m happy.

[Airk]

Insofar as I am rooting for anyone, I was rooting for the Patriots, because a win would make my dad happy.

[eschereal]

I was rooting for the pigs.

[robby]

Having now lived in New England for over 25 years (more than half my life), and having been a Patriots fan since 1997 or so, I was rooting for the Patriots, of course.

Ironically, the first Super Bowl I ever paid attention to was a decade earlier in 1986, when I was living in the Chicago area (as a teenaged Army brat in high school). I jumped on the Bears bandwagon, and celebrated their blowout victory over the Patriots in Super Bowl XX.

[eschereal]

The Patriots average margin of victory over their 11 SBs is about -3. That Bears SB was not good for them, nor did the loss to Green Bay help. But, at least they are 6-5 overall.

[Labtrash]

Seeing as when I was born we LIVED in Foxboro, and I grew up in the town next to it (Walpole), within earshot of the stadium(s), it was Pats all the way for me.

Crappy game, but I liked the end result.