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Old 01-31-2019, 07:34 PM
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I'm fairly certain WWE learned its lesson about using press releases to further an angle from the whole "Donald Trump buys Raw" debacle.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:08 PM
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All an investor lawsuit has to do is get class action certified and it is a payday. And yes, the SEC takes press releases seriously. Doesn't matter who it is from or what it is about. They won't say, "Oh, it's just wrestling." That seriously does not fly on Wall Street for a publicly-traded company...ANY publicly traded company.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:16 PM
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I'm fairly certain WWE learned its lesson about using press releases to further an angle from the whole "Donald Trump buys Raw" debacle.
Did they get sued over that?
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:24 PM
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Did they get sued over that?
It tanked their stock and they had to release a "Just kidding, this is just a storyline" PR the next day. That was over ten years ago and I can't recall them trying to work the press since then.
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:01 PM
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It tanked their stock and they had to release a "Just kidding, this is just a storyline" PR the next day. That was over ten years ago and I can't recall them trying to work the press since then.
Also led to a commercial-free Raw, brought to you by KFC. WWE left themselves some wriggle-room, as Trump bought Raw (which isn't a sellable-entity), but as Smapti noted, led to a 7% stock decline anyway. Some blame should go to news agencies which just ran the press release without confirming the release. It popped ratings. The SEC supposedly considered investigated, but for reasons unknown, decided not to follow up.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:23 AM
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I understand ya'lls point, but it's a complete apples-to-oranges comparison.

A press release saying Trump is buying RAW is a huge deal because it signifies a major businessman is putting (probable) millions of dollars into an already multi-million dollar company. On its face, that has a HUGE impact on business and in the business world.

The WWE releasing a statement about an individual wrestler isn't anywhere close to that.

The closest I can get is someone might see this as the end of WWE as we know it and pull stock because they think Ambrose is the first domino to fall and wants out, then gets pissed because of it and wants some kind of revenge. But even that is far-fetched because the stock market itself isn't going to move or pay attention because of this.
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Old 02-01-2019, 07:48 PM
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Pierre Carl Oulett (PCO) teamed with Jacques Rougeau in The Quebecers, but it was Jacques Rougeau who was The Mountie. No, I did not know that off the top of my head, but when you posted, I wondered if that might have had anything to do with Raymond Rougeau not doing French commentary for Royal Rumble.
Got to see PCO at the BOLA finals this year.... He's insanely charismatic with this new gimmick.....even though it's as Cornette says "some hokey shit."
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:09 PM
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hogans wife is supposedly in court trying to get him to live up to the divorce agreement among other things
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Old 02-02-2019, 01:31 AM
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Jesus, those two deserve each other.

"In a bitter divorce settlement hashed out over a year, Hogan agreed to give Bollea 70 percent of the couple's liquid assets plus properties worth $3 million, but only 40 percent of any future revenues in his businesses."

Goddamned fool if he thought getting 60% of future income would be more valuable than giving up 70% of what they had plus $3 million. Unless he was factoring in the Gawker settlement money. But still, this is something I don't like about divorce. They should only settle current assets and not even look at future income. A divorce should be a final and complete parting of the ways, not a life-long forced relationship.
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:00 AM
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I got my tix for WWN & EVOLVE Wrestling present EVOLVE 122!!!

Main Event #1 - Only In EVOLVE
Adam Cole of The Undisputed Era vs. Darby Allin

Main Event #2 - EVOLVE Championship Match
Austin Theory defends vs. Anthony Henry

Main Event #3 - WWN Championship Match
JD Drake defends vs. Montez Ford of The Street Profits

Plus more to be signed with:

-EVOLVE Tag Team Champion Angelo Dawkins of The Street Profits
-AR Fox with Ayla & The Skulk
-Shane Strickland
-Eddie Kingston
-DJZ
-Josh Briggs
-Leon Ruff
-Harlem Bravado
-Curt Stallion
-Joe Gacy
-Colby Corino
-Plus others to be added!

I'm going to mark out big time for Adam Cole vs Darby Allin! The rest of the show I'll be my usual obnoxious smark self, but I'll be 5 years old for the main event.

Colby Corino is Steve Corino's son. He was a "young boy" in RoH who took sick bumps from the main eventers. Shane Strickland was Killshot in LU. I've seen Eddie Kingston and DJZ on Impact and Montez Ford on NXT, but I haven't seen any of the others.

Adam Cole and the Street Prophets will be available for pictures and autographs, so I might pull a Smapti. I'll be wearing the Jim Cornette shirt fo sho.
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Old 02-03-2019, 12:51 AM
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Adam Cole, BAY-BAY!
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:35 AM
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Possible reason why Zack Ryder hasn't been on RAM much

Zack to Curt: "You think you're a loser? They misspelled my name on the chyron last week! They spelled it Z-A-C-H when it's supposed to be Z-A-C-K-H!"
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:49 AM
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Haha I noticed that too.
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Old 02-07-2019, 12:16 PM
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The Undertaker removed all references to WWE from his social medias.....


What's this? What's this music?

Coming to face Cody! It's...it's.....it's The Coroner!!



Yes that's a joke. But it's such a joke now that anything that possibly happens in WWE the first thought is "OMG AEW!"
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:02 AM
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Here is AEW's roster.

No recent WWE defects. Chris Jericho and PAC (Adrian Neville) come closest. A bunch from RoH, a few from LU: Pentagon Jr., Fenix, Sonny Kiss (XO Lishus), & Sammy Guevara.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:14 AM
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I didn't know that Omega actually officially signed. We all knew he was going to, but I assumed I'd hear something other than this post.
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Old 02-09-2019, 03:41 AM
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The Undertaker removed all references to WWE from his social medias.....


What's this? What's this music?

Coming to face Cody! It's...it's.....it's The Coroner!!



Yes that's a joke. But it's such a joke now that anything that possibly happens in WWE the first thought is "OMG AEW!"
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I didn't know that Omega actually officially signed. We all knew he was going to, but I assumed I'd hear something other than this post.
Didn't expect him to sign on as a VP.
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:18 AM
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Undertaker is available for personal appearances. If you want him at your birthday party, bar mitzvah, quincinera, whatever, it's only $25K an hour. You also have to have enough room for his pyro, a large enough grave plot, and a mack truck-sized organ for his entrance music.
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Old 02-09-2019, 06:56 PM
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Remember CJ Parker, the obnoxious hippie in NXT a couple years ago? He's now Juice Robinson, uses a Kid Rock gimmick, and heads a babyface stable in RoH.

Solomon Crowe had a similar fate. He didn't last that long in NXT, but he's an Indie rebel king now. NXT is the golden touch.
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:09 PM
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Remember CJ Parker, the obnoxious hippie in NXT a couple years ago? He's now Juice Robinson, uses a Kid Rock gimmick, and heads a babyface stable in RoH.

Solomon Crowe had a similar fate. He didn't last that long in NXT, but he's an Indie rebel king now. At the risk of sounding like a WWE mark, NXT has the golden touch.
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funny thing is when bill Anderson and jesse hernandez had their first wrestling school/federation the first time I seen chris daniels and rico constantino was in a 3 way match with a huge monster being called the coroner he was more of a kane type in wrestling style …….


but him and bill clashed too much and he just disappeared
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:42 PM
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just seen that wwe legend Pedro Morales passed on I think he was wwe's first or one of the first Hispanic superstars who was champ for 3 years …..https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ww...ies/ar-BBTvn1z


In an age where you're lucky to be champ for 3 months in any wrestling fed that's saying something
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:05 PM
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Growing up, I was a Bob Backlund fan and my brother was a Pedro Morales fan, and we'd argue about who was better. The heel would come into the territory, squash everyone to "earn" a WWWF World Championship title shot, battle Backlund for 2-3 months, then battle Morales for the WWWF Intercontinental title 2-3 months, then put over talent before transitioning to another territory. Another icon of my childhood lost. Goodbye Pedro.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:13 AM
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I remember Morales from WWF in the mid 80's, but he was a JTTS then. Gorilla Monsoon always referred to him as "The Former Mr. Everything." I guess that meant he held all the major title belts at some point.

Dash & Dawson won the RAM title belts. Threatening to leave actually worked. I guess WWE saw that RAM was slipping in the ratings and AEW could snatch away their talent, so they decided to see if turning up emphasis on tag teams would help.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:44 AM
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Kofi Kingston was announced as Mustafa Ali's injury replacement for the Elimination Chamber, and he then went an hour in a gauntlet match on last night's SmackDown, defeating Daniel Bryan, Jeff Hardy, and Samoa Joe before losing to AJ Styles.

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Old 02-13-2019, 09:39 AM
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I remember Morales from WWF in the mid 80's, but he was a JTTS then. Gorilla Monsoon always referred to him as "The Former Mr. Everything." I guess that meant he held all the major title belts at some point.
He was the first WWWF Triple Crown winner. WWWF Heavyweight Championship (won from Ivan Koloff); WWF Intercontinental Champion (first won from Ken Patera), and WWF Tag Team Champion with Bob Backlund (won from The Wild Samoans, for one day). The only one I was too young to remember was the WWWF Championship.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:00 AM
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He was the first WWWF Triple Crown winner. WWWF Heavyweight Championship (won from Ivan Koloff); WWF Intercontinental Champion (first won from Ken Patera), and WWF Tag Team Champion with Bob Backlund (won from The Wild Samoans, for one day). The only one I was too young to remember was the WWWF Championship.
We must be pretty close in age. I am also too young to remember Pedro's WWWF championship run. I was also a huge Backlund fan. I feel like he's under rated these days. When history of the WWF(E) championship is mentioned it seems like a lot of people go straight from Bruno to Hogan.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:20 AM
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We must be pretty close in age. I am also too young to remember Pedro's WWWF championship run. I was also a huge Backlund fan. I feel like he's under rated these days. When history of the WWF(E) championship is mentioned it seems like a lot of people go straight from Bruno to Hogan.
You're one of the few older fans online I've come across that was a Backlund fan. Several folks on other forums I frequent said that he was bland and fans preferred Snuka. Backlund's first reign ended the yr I was born so my introduction to him was his '90s run, which I enjoyed.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:59 PM
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My Elimination Chamber predictions:

Daniel Bryan vs. A.J. Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton, Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship: Bryan wins, but you know, one day I would like to see Kofi Kingston as WWE Champion.

Tamina & Nia Jax vs. Bayley & Sasha Banks vs. The IIconics vs. Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville vs. Naomi & Carmella vs. Liv Morgan & Sarah Logan, Elimination Chamber Match for the Women's Tag Team Championship: I hope that Bayley and Banks will win, but I predict that it'll be Jax and Tamina.

Ronda Rousey vs. Ruby Riott, Raw Women's Championship Match
: Rousey wins and retains.

The Miz & Shane McMahon vs. The Usos, Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match: I imagine Miz and Shane retain here but lose it at the next PPV to set up their match at WrestleMania.

Bobby Lashley & Lio Rush vs. Finn Balor, Handicap Match for the Intercontinental Championship: Finn wins the belt.

Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin: Strowman, and hopefully it's short.

Buddy Murphy vs. Akira Tozawa, Cruiserweight Championship Match: Murphy wins and retains.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:46 PM
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My Elimination Chamber predictions:

Daniel Bryan vs. A.J. Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton, Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship: Bryan wins, but you know, one day I would like to see Kofi Kingston as WWE Champion.
The So Bad It Must Be Vince's Idea Version: Randy Orton, entering last, cleans up like Monday and wins the title (his 14th), leading to Bryan vs Orton at Wrestlemania.

Improbable Good Version: Kofi wins the belt and defends vs. Bryan at Wrestlemania.

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Tamina & Nia Jax vs. Bayley & Sasha Banks vs. The IIconics vs. Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville vs. Naomi & Carmella vs. Liv Morgan & Sarah Logan, Elimination Chamber Match for the Women's Tag Team Championship: I hope that Bayley and Banks will win, but I predict that it'll be Jax and Tamina.
Not going to argue with that conclusion, especially with Sasha Banks injury stuff floating around out there. By all rights it should be Sasha Bayley, but it won't be.

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Ronda Rousey vs. Ruby Riott, Raw Women's Championship Match[/B]: Rousey wins and retains.
I can't imagine anyone betting on Riott in this match. Foregone conclusion.

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The Miz & Shane McMahon vs. The Usos, Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match: I imagine Miz and Shane retain here but lose it at the next PPV to set up their match at WrestleMania.
Agreed.

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Bobby Lashley & Lio Rush vs. Finn Balor, Handicap Match for the Intercontinental Championship: Finn wins the belt.

Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin: Strowman, and hopefully it's short.
I'd love to see Finn win, but I won't bet on it. Strowman is also a foregone conclusion unless there are somehow shenanigans - which I would bet are anti-Strowman and not necessarily pro-Corbin. Something like Lars Sullivan taking out Corbin mid-match to face down Strowman in the middle of the ring.

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Very probably.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:55 PM
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Literally the only reason for the IIconics to exist is to be women's tag team champs. They should 1000% win this, but they won't because it's illegal for any woman to do anything special if it isn't Sasha or Charlotte
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:15 PM
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They're modern heel jobbers. They might get a short reign in a year or two, otherwise their job is to lose to the better team.

Note: I like Peyton, but I am NOT a fan of Billie Kay. She's a horrible wrestler.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:40 PM
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My Elimination Chamber predictions:

Daniel Bryan vs. A.J. Styles vs. Samoa Joe vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton, Elimination Chamber Match for the WWE Championship: Bryan wins, but you know, one day I would like to see Kofi Kingston as WWE Champion.
Here's what I want to see. At Elimination Chamber Bryan retains but Kofi has another strong outing. At Fastlane Kofi wins a triple threat or fatal four way to become the #1 contender. Then, at Wrestlemania he becomes WWE champ.

The sight of Kofi Kingston raising the title at WM would be amazing and the New Day celebration on the following Smackdown would be incredibly entertaining.
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Here's what I want to see. At Elimination Chamber Bryan retains but Kofi has another strong outing. At Fastlane Kofi wins a triple threat or fatal four way to become the #1 contender. Then, at Wrestlemania he becomes WWE champ.

The sight of Kofi Kingston raising the title at WM would be amazing and the New Day celebration on the following Smackdown would be incredibly entertaining.
YES.
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AEW Double or Nothing sold out in 4 minutes yesterday. Pretty impressive.

Here's the card so far for the show;

* Kenny Omega vs. Chris Jericho
* Hangman Page vs. PAC
* The Young Bucks vs. Pentagon Jr. & Fenix
* Cody Rhodes vs. ?
* Triple threat: Dr. Britt Baker vs. Kylie Rae vs. Nyla Rose
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You're one of the few older fans online I've come across that was a Backlund fan. Several folks on other forums I frequent said that he was bland and fans preferred Snuka. Backlund's first reign ended the yr I was born so my introduction to him was his '90s run, which I enjoyed.
Backlund was the quintessential babyface. The rotating heels were big and colorful, and Backlund could carry anyone who couldn't hang to a good match. It was just the opposite of the NWA, where they usually had heel champions. Backlund was a slice of good white bread...sure, it's significantly better than Wonder, but in the end it is still white bread. But he and Pedro were work-rate champions, and even then, I admired that style of wrestling (though Backlund could outwork Morales). He couldn't be too fiery, because that was Pedro Morales babyface shtick. But he had some great matches, including his Madison Square Garden cage match against heel Jimmy Snuka, which might have been the first time Snuka lept off the top of the cage. Here, he missed. Later he would land it on Muraco, and thus was born Cactus Jack.

Morales was the fiery Latino babyface, and given the big Puerto Rican populations in major NE cities, he was over HUGE. Pedro could legit sell-out venues where he was the top name in many cities.
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funny thing is when bill Anderson and jesse hernandez had their first wrestling school/federation the first time I seen chris daniels and rico constantino was in a 3 way match with a huge monster being called the coroner he was more of a kane type in wrestling style .


but him and bill clashed too much and he just disappeared
Did he disappear or did they just...bury him?

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Dash & Dawson won the RAM title belts. Threatening to leave actually worked. I guess WWE saw that RAM was slipping in the ratings and AEW could snatch away their talent, so they decided to see if turning up emphasis on tag teams would help.
While I hope it works out for them, I fear the WWE''s handling of tag teams. After turning gold into joggers (The Ascension) or breaking them up (American Alpha,) I don't see a good long term deal for any tag team there. I'm still waiting to see how they eventually kill the New Day.
Speaking of the New Day, I'd love to see Kofi carry the gold. Instead of breaking up over it, I'd find a fourth guy and turn them into a stable, holding all the gold. Kind of a goofy, fun-loving Four Horseman. I can hear it now "carousel riding, pancake-flying, booty-o stealing sons of guns. Woooooo"
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Jimmy Uso and Naomi pulled over, car reeks of booze. Naomi driving. Jimmy gets out of the car, takes off his shirt and gets into fighting stance. Cop pulls taser. Jimmy backs off.

Great time of year to pull that shit, Uso.

Of course, as I said elsewhere, there's a simple, easy solution. WWE hires tour buses when they tour Europe and other places overseas. There's no reason they can't hire buses or vans to take their talent from show to show in the USA. They're flush with cash and it would cut down on stories like this.

When you pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, why are you being so fucking cheap about their transportation?
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Because then you end up with "plane ride from hell" and "Enzo kicked off the tour bus" stories. Less damaging than this, sure....but not a scot-free suggestion.
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Backlund was the quintessential babyface. The rotating heels were big and colorful, and Backlund could carry anyone who couldn't hang to a good match. It was just the opposite of the NWA, where they usually had heel champions. Backlund was a slice of good white bread...sure, it's significantly better than Wonder, but in the end it is still white bread. But he and Pedro were work-rate champions, and even then, I admired that style of wrestling (though Backlund could outwork Morales). He couldn't be too fiery, because that was Pedro Morales babyface shtick. But he had some great matches, including his Madison Square Garden cage match against heel Jimmy Snuka, which might have been the first time Snuka lept off the top of the cage. Here, he missed. Later he would land it on Muraco, and thus was born Cactus Jack.

Morales was the fiery Latino babyface, and given the big Puerto Rican populations in major NE cities, he was over HUGE. Pedro could legit sell-out venues where he was the top name in many cities.
According to Meltzer Morales had one of the highest percentage of MSG sellouts. I even came across a blog post listing the cards he sold out. Regarding Backlund, it's been said that he was Vince Sr.'s answer to Jack Brisco.

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Jimmy Uso and Naomi pulled over, car reeks of booze. Naomi driving. Jimmy gets out of the car, takes off his shirt and gets into fighting stance. Cop pulls taser. Jimmy backs off.

Great time of year to pull that shit, Uso.

Of course, as I said elsewhere, there's a simple, easy solution. WWE hires tour buses when they tour Europe and other places overseas. There's no reason they can't hire buses or vans to take their talent from show to show in the USA. They're flush with cash and it would cut down on stories like this.

When you pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, why are you being so fucking cheap about their transportation?
Guess they see no reason to change tradition.
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Because then you end up with "plane ride from hell" and "Enzo kicked off the tour bus" stories. Less damaging than this, sure....but not a scot-free suggestion.
Mark Henry is back in the locker room to clean it up and cut the bullshit behavior.

If you get thrown off the bus by Mark Henry, they measure the distance.
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Of course, as I said elsewhere, there's a simple, easy solution. WWE hires tour buses when they tour Europe and other places overseas. There's no reason they can't hire buses or vans to take their talent from show to show in the USA. They're flush with cash and it would cut down on stories like this.

When you pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, why are you being so fucking cheap about their transportation?
Jimmy and Naomi weren't traveling to a show when this happened, though, so having WWE provide transportation wouldn't have made a difference.
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Hey, thanks Sportsmaza.com. You allegedly list every WWE salary for 2019 and your list includes people who haven't worked for the company since 2016 or earlier. Brilliant jerb.
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Jimmy and Naomi weren't traveling to a show when this happened, though, so having WWE provide transportation wouldn't have made a difference.
Yeah, I think typical Smackdown schedule is house shows weekend through Monday, Smackdown Tues, then off a couple days.

Supposedly this may not derail their tag team match, as WWE is still paranoid about people walking out to AEW. Sounding like Jessie Ventura was wrong--wrestlers don't need a union, all they needed was a sugar daddy/corporate boogyman.
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When you pay people hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, why are you being so fucking cheap about their transportation?
WWE does this special dance where they treat wrestlers as independent contractors, not employees. It's bullshit, but this may be (IANAL) one of those dance steps that helps WWE separate contractor from employee. I don't think the designation would stand a strong court challenge, but it hasn't faced one yet.
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The next time Oos and Naomi do a mixed tag match, Rusev and Lana should dress as cops and carry tasers.
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