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Old 05-26-2019, 06:12 PM
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There is no reason whatsoever why he would dump Pence or why any incumbent would dump the previous vice president. How did this even come up in this discussion?
Itís a thing.

If Biden remains the front runner and is positioned to be the nominee, I could see the crusty Pub contingent who care less about social issues and populist crap and more about stability and predictability in economic and foreign affairs being just fine with if not outright preferring Sleepy Joe to Don The Con. They may not be able to overcome their cognitive dissonance to the point of actually voting for Biden, but staying home on election night, well, thatíd be doable. It would also give them a chance to resettle their self-satisfaction by affording them an opportunity to cancel out their 2016 Trump vote.

But if Haley were on the ticket, the intrapersonal redemption of not voting for Trump would then be competing with their life-long Grand Old Party loyalty. Said Party loyalty would win, the Establishment would stay aboard, and the GOP would further consummate itís transformation into The Trump Party.
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Pence doesn't bring anything to the ticket. Haley or Martinez would add a politically savvy woman. If Trump self destructs or is politically destroyed it will difficult to fill a Pence ticket. Pence/Palin would be a match.

Without Trump things might get rational. Best case - dump Pence and support Haley with a viable VP candidate.

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Pence doesn't bring anything to the ticket. Haley or Martinez would add a politically savvy woman. If Trump self destructs or is politically destroyed it will difficult to fill a Pence ticket. Pence/Palin would be a match.

Without Trump things might get rational. Best case - dump Pence and support Haley with a viable VP candidate.
Neither are dumb enough to take it.
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Pence doesn't bring anything the ticket? Bullshit. Trump would not have had a shot in hell of winning over Evangelical Christians and the Bible Belt without Pence. It was one of the most savvy strategic choices of Trump's entire campaign.
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Pence doesn't bring anything the ticket? Bullshit. Trump would not have had a shot in hell of winning over Evangelical Christians and the Bible Belt without Pence. It was one of the most savvy strategic choices of Trump's entire campaign.
Agreed, but with PA sagging, I've wondered whether or not he could find another man of the cloth (Rick Santorum).
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Evangelicals accept Trump as one who has strayed then returned to the fold. They like Pence but he is not a necessary part of the political package.

It's all Trump and Trump has to expand his base to win. Santorum would just be more of the same.
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