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The Brady Bunchseemed to have a good old time. Sure, they had their problems-braces, glasses, getting hit in the nose with a football- but things always shook out in the end.

Oh please. Sharing a bedroom with two other people? Nope. Sharing one bathroom with five other people, three of which are males? Aw hell no!
Dad was supposedly an architect. He could afford another, bigger, house. But they have six horny aged kids living in what looks like a three bedroom ranch style house in the suburbs with a dinky back yard.

And a stairway, in a one story ranch style house. And Alice must have at least had a room of her own since she was always there.

That house was much larger on the inside than the outside.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:16 PM
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How about Three's Company? Sex jokes much? And loaded, loaded with slapstick stereotypes, but nothing that makes the characters interesting.
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The racist, sexist, religionist, partisan, arrogant, elitist, HATEFUL cultural crap that infused my mid-century suburban SoCal childhood seems pretty sickening now. Too much to list. Fallout shelters were hot back then. I sure hope they don't get popular again.

Then anti-establishment paradigms of my disaffected youth somewhat ruined my life. What single culture turd to point to? "Turn on, tune in, drop out." Which beats "Turn off, tune out, drop dead" by a fair margin. "Keep on truckin'."

Aha! I just recalled a big-time luser. Which Pat Boone was the worst: Clean teen idol and castrator of R&B? Fervent evangelist? Or heavy-metal self-caricature?
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The casual sexism of the sixties and seventies really sticks out in old TV shows. It was so casual, I'm not even sure either gender realized it. it was just the way it was, but 40 years has really shown how things have changed. From Uhura saying "I'm scared, Captain", to McGarret calling HPD women police officers "honey", to the entire premise of Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie, to the commonly accepted belief that women just couldn't do some jobs, (lady doctor, lady cop, lady pilot, lady lady lady) sometimes it's painful to watch shows I liked back in the day.

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Can we talk about Heinlein? Asimov, or SF writers if the era in general.

Super sexist and misogynistic.
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Speaking of annoying sitcom characters there is always Steve Urkel. With his stalkerish crush on Laura Winslow.
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How about Three's Company? Sex jokes much? And loaded, loaded with slapstick stereotypes, but nothing that makes the characters interesting.
That was the same criticism made about the program when it originally aired during the late 70s and early 80s. What's different about it now is how tired and toothless the program's sex jokes seem since they still had to meet broadcast TV standards. (And to think, the Moral Majority and its supporters used to thunder that God was going to punish the US because of this show's existence.)
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That was the same criticism made about the program when it originally aired during the late 70s and early 80s. What's different about it now is how tired and toothless the program's sex jokes seem since they still had to meet broadcast TV standards. (And to think, the Moral Majority and its supporters used to thunder that God was going to punish the US because of this show's existence.)
He did.

He gave us trump and Pence.

I bet you're sorry now!
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The racist, sexist, religionist, partisan, arrogant, elitist, HATEFUL cultural crap that infused my mid-century suburban SoCal childhood seems pretty sickening now. Too much to list. Fallout shelters were hot back then.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your post, but what is racist, sexist, religionist, partisan, arrogant, elitist, or HATEFUL about fallout shelters???

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In All in the Family there was an episode about a riddle. It was difficult to figure out because the doctor in the riddle was a woman. Everyone expected a doctor to be a man. It wouldn't even be a riddle now.
Also, when I watch All in the Family and the audience or a character reacts, I don't get it until I remember that a black doctor or mixed race couple, or whatever was unusual back then.
If you're talking about the riddle where the doctor can't operate on the patient because he's their son, I'm afraid you're being a bit optimistic. I told my son that riddle a few years ago. He's 16 now and he told me recently that he has shared that riddle with friends many times and hardly anyone gets the correct answer.

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In a game of charades (way back in the 1990s), all my friend had to do was mime being whacked in the face and holding his nose and both teams just instantly yelled "Brady Bunch!" I can't think of anything else where a single miming action is so pop-culture embedded.
In days of yore one of my friends got everyone to correctly guess "The Dick Van Dyke Show" by striding up to and skipping around an ottoman.
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Maybe I am misunderstanding your post, but what is racist, sexist, religionist, partisan, arrogant, elitist, or HATEFUL about fallout shelters???
I don't know about racist or sexist, but for the rest, listen to this guy:

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In a game of charades (way back in the 1990s), all my friend had to do was mime being whacked in the face and holding his nose and both teams just instantly yelled "Brady Bunch!" I can't think of anything else where a single miming action is so pop-culture embedded.
How about making the "Live Long and Prosper" gesture?
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I don't know about racist or sexist, but for the rest, listen to this guy:

Let Me Die In My Footsteps
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Link doesn't work.
Strange, works for me (maybe it's a local restriction, I'm in Germany). It's a youtube link to Bob Dylan's song "Let Me Die In My Footsteps" from 1962 about the ridiculousness of nuclear bomb shelters in a time when that was really a concern. Remember "Duck and Cover"? Those times... Here are the lyrics.
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I still believe that taking the anvil jokes out is going too far, but YMMV.
One does wonder, are they concerned that youths have easy access to anvils and to the means of dropping them from great heights?
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Been around a lot of old Mr. Ed recently. A heck of a lot of plots revolved around wives overspending their allowance. And Sheriff Andy Taylor was not only incredibly sexist (especially to Aunt Bea) but also lied quite a lot.

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The Boys Are Back in Town, by Thin Lizzy.


I guess the first hundred times I heard it, I thought, all right! Par-tay! Now I hear



And that time over at Johnny's place,
Well, this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face
Man, we just fell about the place
If that chick don't want to know, forget her


and I wonder what Johnny did to that girl. And if the boys wanna fight, you better let 'em. The boys sound like a bunch of assholes to me.
This one kills me because I love the song but they are definitely assholes. I think the song was inspired by the band's fans.
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Can we talk about Heinlein? Asimov, or SF writers if the era in general.

Super sexist and misogynistic.
Yes, most of them, even those attempting liberal notions, or collaborating with strong women. And even women writers who needed to make sales, pandering to survive.

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He did.

He gave us trump and Pence.

I bet you're sorry now!
Search for meme: TRUMP WAS SENT BY GOD! (He ran out of locusts.) OK, enough politics. Vaughn Meader and Dana Carey age poorly. But SPITTING IMAGE will be back.

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Maybe I am misunderstanding your post, but what is racist, sexist, religionist, partisan, arrogant, elitist, or HATEFUL about fallout shelters???
Shelters fall under "hope they don't return." The rest remain with us. Ah, but shelters. Without bombs they're costly waste-spaces or kinky playrooms. With bombs... A family shelter, stocked with supplies. Hope the doors can withstand frantic neighbors, militant thugs, radiant zombies, etc. Sounds hateful to me. And what world can you emerge into? Cue those mutants.
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Shelters fall under "hope they don't return." The rest remain with us. Ah, but shelters. Without bombs they're costly waste-spaces or kinky playrooms. With bombs... A family shelter, stocked with supplies. Hope the doors can withstand frantic neighbors, militant thugs, radiant zombies, etc. Sounds hateful to me. And what world can you emerge into? Cue those mutants.
But when you were younger you thought this was cool, right? Because that's what this thread is about. Thinking something was cool and then growing out of it.
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Me watching Close Encounters, 1977, age 9: Roy's gotta follow his heart! He's gotta seek out the aliens!
Me watching Close Encounters, 1987, age 19: Who chooses aliens over Teri Garr? Rrroowwwr.
Spielberg's said that he regrets having made Roy Neary ditch his family to go off with the aliens. He hadn't become a parent at that point, and has said that if he made it today, after having kids, he wouldn't have ended it quite like that.
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Shelters fall under "hope they don't return." The rest remain with us. Ah, but shelters. Without bombs they're costly waste-spaces or kinky playrooms. With bombs... A family shelter, stocked with supplies. Hope the doors can withstand frantic neighbors, militant thugs, radiant zombies, etc. Sounds hateful to me. And what world can you emerge into? Cue those mutants.
Would you have been against air-raid shelters in the UK during WWII? Or family tornado shelters at people's houses in the Great Plains?
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Make his body disappear and where is the case for murder?

GI could also be the inspiration for a dark suspense film. The Howells brought millions in cash and items with them. They werent sharing. Slowly greed overcomes the other five castaways and they kill the Howells in their sleep. Now, down to five castaways, who will die next? Who will be the lone survivor?
Isn't that a Japanese game show?

Ferris Bueller was a little sociopath who pushed his best friend further further into delinquent behavior until, realizing the magnitude of what he had done, the friend fell into a catatonic state. But it's OK, because the friend cops a look at Ferris's naked and unsuspecting girlfriend so then he's had his revenge and he's fine again. The girlfriend is just happy to help.

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[QUOTE=Steve McQwark;21890428]If you're talking about the riddle where the doctor can't operate on the patient because he's their son, I'm afraid you're being a bit optimistic. I told my son that riddle a few years ago. He's 16 now and he told me recently that he has shared that riddle with friends many times and hardly anyone gets the correct. /QUOTE]

True. I tried a few years ago and got guesses like "the doctor is his adoptive father". 🤔
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On the other hand, I was told this at the age of 10 in the early 80s and instantly got it. By "instantly" I mean after a beat to make sure this wasn't a trick question because the answer seemed too obvious.

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The video for J. Geils "Centerfold" HOT HOT HAWT then, creepy slimy dirty now.
How about Talking in Your Sleep by the Romantics or Hot for Teacher by Van Halen?
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117 episodes, but if you ask random people to describe an episode, more often than not the only one people remember is that one! It even got referenced during the NFL broadcast yesterday. I find that fascinating.

I wonder if there are other shows like that.
I usually to remember the "Time to Change" episode in which Peter's voice cracked. Also the Don Drysdale episode.
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How about Talking in Your Sleep by the Romantics or Hot for Teacher by Van Halen?
Talking in your sleep, never saw a video, I vaguely remember the song, but it didn't register with me much.

Hot for teacher, ok, I'm a primitive cave man bashing my prospective wife in the head and dragging her off by her hair. I get the creepy factor, but it's still a fun song to me, even today after some female teachers famously acted out the fantasy depicted.
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On the All in the Family riddle, I found something where they asked kids the riddle. It said "most kids had no trouble figuring out the correct answer". While I didn't watch out the video it appears that an answer given was that the boy had two fathers - another thing that is more common now.
http://www.newnownext.com/glorias-ri...nswer/09/2010/
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When I was a kid I loved adventure stories where kids went and did heroic things- Narnia, Have Spacesuit, will travel, there are lots of time travel, spaceship and portal fantasies like that. As an adult, I realize that I would have been a helpless, crying mess at the first sign of real danger or violence.
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How about Talking in Your Sleep by the Romantics or Hot for Teacher by Van Halen?
How about 'Wicked Game' - Chris Isaak? Gorgeous song, artsy black and white photography, and it's a pushing-it soft porn droolfest for Victoria's Secret addicts. Turned me right off of the song and Chris Isaak, too.

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Today I heard the Doors "Hello, I Love You, Won't You Tell Me Your Name?" for the first time in decades.

Talk about your skivvy songs. If anyone approached me like that, my creep-o-meter would register about a million, my self-defense would go into overtime, and I'd be looking for the nearest cop.
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"Skeevy." "Skivvy" means "underwear."
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"Skeevy." "Skivvy" means "underwear."
Although a song about underwear would probably be kind of skeevy.
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Today I heard the Doors "Hello, I Love You, Won't You Tell Me Your Name?" for the first time in decades.

Talk about your skivvy songs. If anyone approached me like that, my creep-o-meter would register about a million, my self-defense would go into overtime, and I'd be looking for the nearest cop.
lets see...it was the height of the 60's, Morrison was in his early twenties, he was in LA. He perfectly expresses what its like to pass an unapproachably beautiful woman. Not skeevy at all.

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Her arms are wicked and her legs are long
When she moves my brain screams out this song

Sidewalk crouches at her feet
Like a dog that begs for something sweet
Do you hope to make her see you fool ?
Do you hope to pluck this dusky jewel ?
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I recently rewatched "Cool Hand Luke", and had very little sympathy for him as I watched him make one bad decision after another.
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I thought this even before Alexi Sayle said it.
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In real life, I've met a few bikers. Some of them were "outlaw" bikers. None of them have been as cool as Peter Fonda, or even as cool as Fonzie.

As I get older, I find myself rooting for the Coyote to catch the Roadrunner. In Tom & Jerry cartoons, I think Jerry is at least as big a jerk as Tom. And I think Bambi would make delicious steaks.

Animal House. The older I get, the more sympathy I have for Dean Wormer.
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