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Old 10-02-2019, 02:41 AM
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Bob Denver as the joker


Batman the sixties version was going to get another season on another station but the sets were torn up. Suppose after Gilligan is canceled ceaser Romeo is unavailable i was wondering how Gilligan would do in the role. After Gilligan wrapped up Denver did the good guys.dustys trail far out space nuts nothing that last.
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Bob Denver? Surely you're joking!

Russell Johnson (The Professor) I could imagine in the role, if I stretch my imagination a lot. But not Gilligan. Not in a million years. Even if they did get John Astin (Gomez Addams) to play The Riddler. (Thankfully, that didn't last long.) Didn't care much for anyone else subbing for Julie Newmar as The Catwoman, either (not even Lee Meriwether.)
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:51 AM
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Bob Denver? Surely you're joking!

Russell Johnson (The Professor) I could imagine in the role, if I stretch my imagination a lot. But not Gilligan. Not in a million years.
Iíll cast a vote for Dick Van Dyke.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:40 AM
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Bob Denver played idiots well. The Joker and other classic Batman nemeses were not idiots.

"Casting against type" would be a generous statement here.
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It could have worked - we're talking about a series that had Batman in a surfing competition against the Joker, boxing against the Riddler, and meeting Colonel Klink while climbing up the side of a building on his batrope.

For some reason I was just thinking about this show this morning. It seems surprising that a show that was so popular only lasted 3 seasons - they should have had 6 seasons and a movie as well as a Batgirl spinoff (OK, they did have a movie...). I am glad that it survived in reruns during my childhood though.
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....Didn't care much for anyone else subbing for Julie Newmar as The Catwoman, either (not even Lee Meriwether.)
Oh, come on. Eartha Kitt was freakiní amazing.

My favorites were Victor Buonoís King Tut and Rudy Valleeís Lord Marmaduke Pfogg.
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Just about any ham actor could play a villain in the Batman TV series. Denver was a clown, but not much of a ham, it's just not his kind of role.
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Iíll cast a vote for Dick Van Dyke.
I could see him as the Riddler. Joker doesn't fit him IMHO.
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I could see him as the Riddler. Joker doesn't fit him IMHO.
Iím not sure who was around in the mid-60s who would have been a good Joker. Romero certainly wasnít. Nowhere near the level of Meredithís Penguin.

How about Timothy Carey?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Carey
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Just about any ham actor could play a villain in the Batman TV series.
And most of them did.

Tommy Smothers maybe, but not Dick.
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I guess Maryann could be Harley Quinn.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:24 AM
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Jim Backus as the Penguin. Probably not as good as Burgess, but serviceable.
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Just about any ham actor could play a villain in the Batman TV series.
Now I'm wondering who would be a good Joker if they revived the 60's-style Batman TV series today. And, more generally, who-all could/would play the villains on the show.
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Mark Hamill makes a fine Joker already.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:44 AM
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Iíll cast a vote for Dick Van Dyke.
I'd pick his brother Jerry instead.

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It could have worked - we're talking about a series that had Batman in a surfing competition against the Joker, boxing against the Riddler, and meeting Colonel Klink while climbing up the side of a building on his batrope.

For some reason I was just thinking about this show this morning. It seems surprising that a show that was so popular only lasted 3 seasons - they should have had 6 seasons and a movie as well as a Batgirl spinoff (OK, they did have a movie...). I am glad that it survived in reruns during my childhood though.
There almost was a Batgirl spinoff. You can see the pilot here. It co-stars Adam West (he sure was in a lot of unaired pilots. ) as millionaire playboy Bruce Wayne and Burt Ward as his youthful ward, Dick Grayson.
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Paul Lynde would have worked.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:48 AM
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Cesar Romero was already a bad Joker. He wasn't menacing at all. It was just that kind of show. Even Liberace was a villain.

Nobody ever likes a Joker, until the movie is done. As long as they don't go with johnny Depp, I'd give anyone a chance.
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The authoritative list of actors who would be totally miscast as the Joker:

1. Bob Newhart
2. Buster Keaton
3. Bob Denver
4. Slim Pickens
5. Rick Moranis
6. Peter Falk
7. Don Knotts
8. John Wayne
9. William Shatner
10. Lorne Green

See, he's number 3 on the list.
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I guess Maryann could be Harley Quinn.
Not in the 60s. The character didn't exist.


But Jim Backus as the Penguin and paul Lynde as the Joker are good.
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The authoritative list of actors who would be totally miscast as the Joker:

1. Bob Newhart
I canít believe how much Iíd like to see this.
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Cesar Romero was already a bad Joker...
I thought Cesar Romero was a FABULOUS joker!

He played the role with just a perfect amount of lunacy that was exactly what that series required.
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I canít believe how much Iíd like to see this.
Done entirely via Bob Newhart's telephone call bits.
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Not in the 60s. The character didn't exist.


But Jim Backus as the Penguin and paul Lynde as the Joker are good.
But she was retconned into the animated feature Batman vs. Two-Face, which was based upon the 1966 TV show.

https://youtu.be/LIfRKVlN-Ko

Here she can be seen as Dr. Strange's assistant. But a blonde actress has to play the part. Dawn Wells wouldn't have worked out in that case.
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I thought Cesar Romero was a FABULOUS joker!

He played the role with just a perfect amount of lunacy that was exactly what that series required.
Seconded. He and Gorshin could play psychopaths better than anyone else. I can't imagine anyone else being as good a Joker as Romero was.

As for "not being menacing," he literally scared the piss out of my three-year-old brother. Poor kid had nightmares about him and wet the bed for years afterward.

All of the actors who played villains loved being able to ham it up on Batman. The competition for the role of next week's guest villain was fierce. From January to September 1966, Batman was the hottest series on TV.
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Done entirely via Bob Newhart's telephone call bits.
Lordy, how I would love to have seen this.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:19 PM
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And with all due respect to Miss Kitt, Julie Newmar was the ultimate dominatrix. No woman could wield a cat-o-nine tails better than she.
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Even if they did get John Astin (Gomez Addams) to play The Riddler. (Thankfully, that didn't last long.)
If you think about it, John Astin wouldn't have been a bad choice to be the Joker.

The TV series Joker wasn't as physically active as the Riddler, so what they would need was an actor who was high-energy and could do a maniacal laugh, but not necessarily one who could do the physical stunts Frank Gorshin did.

You know who might have been great as a 1960's Joker? Desi Arnaz. Check him out in this.

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For some reason I was just thinking about this show this morning. It seems surprising that a show that was so popular only lasted 3 seasons - they should have had 6 seasons and a movie as well as a Batgirl spinoff (OK, they did have a movie...). I am glad that it survived in reruns during my childhood though.
Actually, it lasted barely two: It was a midseason replacement in January 1966, and the last episode aired in March 1968.

It was the hottest show on TV for 6--8 months, but the novelty wore off. After we all came back from summer vacation, the campiness wasn't near as exciting.

(Oddly enough, 11-year-old me took the show dead seriously. I always thought it showed true-to-life scientific crimefighting, and I was offended when TV Guide listed it as a "Comedy.")

The movie came out in July 1966, so it was really a rush job to cash in on the show's popularity at the time.
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(Oddly enough, 11-year-old me took the show dead seriously. I always thought it showed true-to-life scientific crimefighting, and I was offended when TV Guide listed it as a "Comedy.")
Me, too. When I saw some episodes at the age of 20, I was floored to realize that my favorite gritty crime drama was a laugh riot.
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Just about any ham actor could play a villain in the Batman TV series. Denver was a clown, but not much of a ham, it's just not his kind of role.
He was always more of a Maynard G Krebs type.
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I completely read this as the other Denver (John) for the role, and trying to figure out how that would have worked.
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Denver "Uncle Jesse Duke" Pyle, maybe?
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Now I'm wondering who would be a good Joker if they revived the 60's-style Batman TV series today. And, more generally, who-all could/would play the villains on the show.
One data point: Jeff Bergman voiced the Joker in Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders (the first of two animated features based on the 60s series).
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Now I'm wondering who would be a good Joker if they revived the 60's-style Batman TV series today. And, more generally, who-all could/would play the villains on the show.
Well I'm picturing Patrick Warburton as Batman. He may be a bit old, but he's got the dry delivery down pat.

With Ian Armitage as Robin.

Jim Parsons as the Riddler

Rami Malek as the joker
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One data point: Jeff Bergman voiced the Joker in Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders (the first of two animated features based on the 60s series).
Also in the sequel, Batman vs. Two-Face.
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Romero's Joker may not have worked in Christopher Nolan's, Tim Burton's, or even Joel Schumacher's Batman universes. But he was absolutely pitch perfect in the 60's camp version. I'll fight anyone who claims otherwise, hitting them so hard that words describing the impact will appear in mid-air.

Here's an interesting little interview from the era. Seems like he totally "got it."
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It is worth noting that Astin is the sole surviving (male) villain from Batman '66.
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"So you were in the middle of painting a smiley face on the police headquarters, and these guys showed up and started punching you. What did they look like?"

"A cape and cowl?"

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Romero's Joker may not have worked in Christopher Nolan's, Tim Burton's, or even Joel Schumacher's Batman universes. But he was absolutely pitch perfect in the 60's camp version. I'll fight anyone who claims otherwise, hitting them so hard that words describing the impact will appear in mid-air.
Oh yea! Well, I challenge you to a dance contest! And the Bat-tusi is prohibited!
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Oh yea! Well, I challenge you to a dance contest! And the Bat-tusi is prohibited!
Objection: Battles regarding the Joker must be conducted in the form of a surfing contest.
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Cesar Romero was a great joker. He loved doing the part and it showed.

Robin Williams would have been a great joker, as was Jack Nicholson.

For the Penguin, I'd have loved to have seen Sorrell Booke.
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The extra creepy aspect of Romero as the Joker was the painted over mustache. I guess that's a plus.
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Forgot the link to the Romero/Joker pic. Here.
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There almost was a Batgirl spinoff. You can see the pilot here. It co-stars Adam West (he sure was in a lot of unaired pilots. ) as millionaire playboy Bruce Wayne and Burt Ward as his youthful ward, Dick Grayson.
That's right, I remember this now. Thanks,


Interestingly enough (I guess), the Romero mustache wasn't something that I noticed when I was a little kid. It didn't see it until I figured out that the show was camp.
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And with all due respect to Miss Kitt, Julie Newmar was the ultimate dominatrix. No woman could wield a cat-o-nine tails better than she.
Ginger (Tina Louise) could have been a pretty good Catwoman.

Imagine the castaways find the rare tropical berry that gives them all super powers. What would their powers be? What kind of superhero team would they form?

Maybe I'll start a thread.
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Ginger (Tina Louise) could have been a pretty good Catwoman...
Tina Louise and Julie Newman had already appeared together, in the Broadway musical Liíl Abner.. As, respectively, Apassionata Von Climax and Stupefyiní Jones.

God bless Al Capp and his talent for characterization.
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Tina Louise and Julie Newman had already appeared together, in the Broadway musical Liíl Abner.. As, respectively, Apassionata Von Climax and Stupefyiní Jones.
Surely you know Julie's last name is Newmar.
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I read "Bob Denver" but in my head I see and hear John Denver. As the Joker.

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