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Although I don't like the term very much I suppose I am a centrist. I don't like conservatives nor do I like progressives.

I consider myself a liberal because I am a secularist, pro-choice, pro-democracy, equal rights/voting rights FREE TRADE capitalist.

Liked Obama and Bill Clinton (derided as "corporatists" or "neoliberals" by the Sarandon wing of the Democratic Party) - hated Bush and Trump.

Proud neoliberal here!

I consider Warren and Sanders representative of the Sarandon wing of party.

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Radicals hack out the trail and clear the campsite. Progressives build the cabins and start the campfires. Liberals show up after the hot showers have been installed.
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... and reactionaries want to go back to the time when it was all forest because they'd *finally* finished their cabin collection.
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My impression, quite possibly faulty, is that Warren painted herself into a corner by refusing to admit that taxes on the middle class would rise under her M4A.
Just now I see from another thread that Warren has read my complaints here and is now walking back her over-aggressive M4A plan. Good news. In future I hope she contacts me before attracting derision from her over-exuberance.
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Medicare itself could not possibly work, we were assured of that. Could never afford it, no question. And then it was there, and somehow we still found a trillion dollars to piss away on stupid and futile wars. So, go figure.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:24 PM
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Interesting, and possibly thread relevant, bit of satire... Im A Moderate, Says Racist Democrat.
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Old 11-17-2019, 10:03 AM
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Radicals hack out the trail and clear the campsite. Progressives build the cabins and start the campfires. Liberals show up after the hot showers have been installed.
OH god, that is hilarious.

Bernie Sanders got kicked out of a commune for laziness as a young man. I can't imagine Warren or Sanders doing any manual labor. They are the very definition of entitled elite.

Thanks for the knee-slapper.
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OH god, that is hilarious.



Bernie Sanders got kicked out of a commune for laziness as a young man. I can't imagine Warren or Sanders doing any manual labor. They are the very definition of entitled elite.



Thanks for the knee-slapper.
Wait'll you hear what a metaphor is. Oh boy, that's a real knee-slapper.

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I can't imagine Warren or Sanders doing any manual labor. They are the very definition of entitled elite.
You maybe should do a little research before credulously swallowing conservative talking points about progressive candidates. Warren, for example, waited tables in her aunt's restaurant starting at age 13 because of squeezed family finances due to her father's health problems. She also raised two children as a stay-at-home mother and subsequently part-time student, and if you don't think the job of primary childcarer and homemaker involves "any manual labor", it's easy to see you've never tried it.

Sanders, from a lower-middle-class Eastern European immigrant family, famously worked at a variety of jobs including carpenter in his twenties and thirties. You think carpenters don't do any manual labor?

You're probably socioeconomically closer to the "definition of entitled elite" yourself than either Warren's or Sanders' family was.
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Sanders, from a lower-middle-class Eastern European immigrant family, famously worked at a variety of jobs including carpenter in his twenties and thirties. You think carpenters don't do any manual labor?
Of course they don't. Not socialist carpenters anyway. They just shout marxist dialectic at the woodpile until it agrees to become a table in voluntary betterment of the community. Under True & Total Communism, the means of production aren't needed anymore, my dude.

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You "struggle" with the wood until it agrees to become a table.

And when we finally arrive, we can tell the revolutionary cadres to fuck the hell off!

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Radicals hack out the trail and clear the campsite.
Sometimes they just lead everyone over a cliff.

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Progressives build the cabins and start the campfires.
Or they burn down the woods, but hey at least everybody's warm.

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Liberals show up after the hot showers have been installed.
"Liberal" is a dirty word on the left too I suppose
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I am a recovering centrist who finally woke up and became a left-wing nut job.

Others call it a mid-life crisis. I pay them no mind.
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