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Spencer Tracy always looked like an old fuddy duddy. I can't see the appeal there, even when he was young.

Same with Humphrey Bogart.
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Well, more like 30s and early 40s, really, not close to fifty. But I think I get your point anyway - they're not young men in their physical peak, which for most men would be in their twenties, they're starting to approach middle age, and for some reason that makes them more credible. Even Matt Damon was 32 when he starred in the first Bourne movie.
Surely Liam Neeson would win this tangent? He was 56 when he did the first Taken movie. His "special skills" probably don't include being able to quickly stand up from squatting.
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I thought for a long time that William Hartnell, the first Doctor Who, was within a loud shout of 70 when he took the role in 1963. Nope. Only 55.
You do realise he was wearing makeup and a wig, right?

Here's what he really looked like.

http://shillpages.com/dw/hartnw26.jpg
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You do realise he was wearing makeup and a wig, right?

Here's what he really looked like.

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He looks pretty friggin old in those shots. It wasn't the makeup and wig.
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If you allow a little sidetrack from the musical world: Johnny Cash already looked like a weathered 45 years old when he started his recording career at Sun Studios as a twenty-something and kept on looking older than his real age until his death.
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Ernest Borgnine has always looked like a beer-bellied unhealthy living 55-60 years old throughout his whole career to me.
Here he is at age 36 in From Here to Eternity. Stocky but fit and pretty much looking his age, IMHO.

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Ooh, that's a good one. I always thought he looked like he was past 40 in The Seventh Seal (not just in his late twenties).
I disagree. I remember seeing that movie again a few years ago and thinking, "How young he looks!" Of course, his character is supposed to be war weary and look older than his years.
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And I've also always felt like The Seventh Seal looks like it was shot in the fifties or earlier, not in the late sixties. Any time I see him my gut reaction is that he must be impossibly old.
It was made in 1957.

ETA: Margaret Hamilton was the one I was going to mention, but a couple of people have beaten me to it.

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Johnny Cash was an actor at times, mostly in TV movies, but he had some decent parts. One was as the good guy in "Murder in Coweta County" - with Andy Griffith cast as the villain.

But yes, when we was 70 he looked 90.
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Forgive me for being a little off topic but I remember that one of the reasons I went to a Willie Nelson concert in 1978 was that I believed that soon after he might be too old to tour.
Not as extreme, but I remember seeing the Stones in 1989, and everyone in that line seemed to say "well...this is the last chance" - not just on account of their age, but it was rumored Mick and Keith would break up at any time.

B.B. King was another person who spent 20-30 years on tours that everyone figured would be the last chance.
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I just saw the 1951 version of Show Boat last night, with a 51 year old Agnes Moorehead as Parthenia "Parthy" Hawks. She doesn't look too bad or too old. She doesn't look great, though, because she's surrounded by flamboyant characters dressed in outrageously vibrant Technicolor clothes, and she's dressed in brown. Plus, she plays a real "downer" of a character. I think that's part of the reason she's perceived as prematurely old -- her notable roles are dressed down and are pretty negative. Parthy Hawks, Mary Kane (in Citizen Kane, when she was only 41), whacko romance-spoiling Aunt Fanny Minifer in The Magnificent Ambersons, Jane Eyre's mean Aunt who throws her out, The Woman in "The Invaders" on The Twilight Zone. If she'd had upbeat roles and dressed more flashily I don't think she'd be perceived as Prematurely Old.
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I just saw the 1951 version of Show Boat last night, with a 51 year old Agnes Moorehead as Parthenia "Parthy" Hawks. She doesn't look too bad or too old. She doesn't look great, though, because she's surrounded by flamboyant characters dressed in outrageously vibrant Technicolor clothes, and she's dressed in brown. Plus, she plays a real "downer" of a character. I think that's part of the reason she's perceived as prematurely old -- her notable roles are dressed down and are pretty negative. Parthy Hawks, Mary Kane (in Citizen Kane, when she was only 41), whacko romance-spoiling Aunt Fanny Minifer in The Magnificent Ambersons, Jane Eyre's mean Aunt who throws her out, The Woman in "The Invaders" on The Twilight Zone. If she'd had upbeat roles and dressed more flashily I don't think she'd be perceived as Prematurely Old.
You left out "businesswoman" Bertha Parchman in The Revolt of Mamie Stover (1956)---opposite Jane Russell.
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Not as extreme, but I remember seeing the Stones in 1989, and everyone in that line seemed to say "well...this is the last chance" - not just on account of their age, but it was rumored Mick and Keith would break up at any time.
Coincidentally, I got an online ad today offering me tickets to their upcoming local concert.
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I saw Judd Hirsch recently in Uncut Gems and thought of this thread. He's finally looking old old, but I swear he looked to be 60 for about 30 years.
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In the sequel, one of the first things 77-year-old Doc does is strip off his aging mask (which Doc had used to hide his de-aging treatments from Marty) so that Lloyd could play him without makeup.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down. I thought the joke was that when he took the aging mask, he looked identical to how he looked before.

We laughed in the theater in 1989 thinking that was the joke and I have always thought that was the joke.

He...did look the same after he took off the "peel", didn't he? I thought Marty was being nice when he paused and said, "Yeah, ya' look great, Doc" or something like that.

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I was surprised Ian McDiarmid was only 36 in Empire Strikes Back. They used makeup and other stuff to make him look much older. He's 75 now.
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Anne Bancroft was only six years older than Dustin Hoffman. She had no problem playing the older woman in The Graduate.

Anne always looked middle aged to me, no matter which movie.
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Although Mrs. Robinson is supposed to be much older than Benjamin, Anne Bancroft and Dustin Hoffman were just under six years apart in age. He looked naturally boyish, and she was made up to look older. Bancroft was only eight years older than her "daughter" Katharine Ross. William Daniels (Mr. Braddock) only ten years older than his "son" Hoffman.
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