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Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread


This thread is for discussion of Rich Burlew's comic strip The Order of the Stick.

Book 7, the final book, is due to start today. The previous book took about 6 years. This book promises to be even longer.

Read it from the start, beginning here.

This Link should take you to the latest update.

Strips are published on an irregular schedule. Someone always announces within moments any time a new strip arrives.
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Yes!, I had forgotten the date.
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And as soon as I post, the strip goes up.

1190 Getting Started
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"Getting Started Getting To The End", to give it its full and appropriate title.
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https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...d.php?t=717307 Book 6 "Totally Dwarfed"
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...d.php?t=530128 Book 5 "Blood Runs in the Family"
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb...d.php?t=504715 Discussion starts midway through Book 4 "Don't Split the Party"

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Wow. I was thinking it was further away for new strips, so a nice surprise for me!
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When I saw the first panel of this strip, I thought it was going to start with the Snarl. I suspect that was Burlew's intention, so good fake out.

And as usual, Elan is good getting us up to speed.
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Only three miles away. It's time to start another game of "This has been a very long day. How many spells do they have left?" Cross off two Invisibility's, unless they picked up potions or scrolls or such somewhere.
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When I saw the first panel of this strip, I thought it was going to start with the Snarl. I suspect that was Burlew's intention, so good fake out.
Likewise. And I'm sure it was deliberate.
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Are you sure it's not foreshadowing instead of a misdirect?

Lots of things like playing with such. Hell, what's Stick-world if not a ball of yarn played with by the Gods?
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Weird that the teleportation orb was kept in Belkar's cabin.
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Weird that the teleportation orb was kept in Belkar's cabin.
I assume they're sharing a cabin or switched cabins. The explosion was from a scroll V had just scribed and left on the desk.
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I assume they're sharing a cabin or switched cabins. The explosion was from a scroll V had just scribed and left on the desk.
V will only room with Miss Starshine.
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Presumably Miss Starshine is rooming with Elan now, and V 2.0 is less up him/herself.
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Plus, that was more a refusal to room with Miko.

Also, limited space on the flying boat. Separate rooms not available.
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But V rooming with Belkar?? Ain't seeing it. It'd destroy the "V's Schrödinger's Gender" joke at the very least. I guess V switched cabins as she couldn't properly handle the bat guano fireball regent in that burned out room. Or something.
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Only three miles away. It's time to start another game of "This has been a very long day. How many spells do they have left?" Cross off two Invisibility's, unless they picked up potions or scrolls or such somewhere.
Or one Invisibility Sphere.
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Also, limited space on the flying boat. Separate rooms not available.
For that matter, sleeping in shifts -- V tranced and then, while Belkar took the room, went off with Haley. As you mention, it's doubtful the ship has ample extra sleeping quarters and there's been several scenes with someone below deck while stuff is going on above with other characters.

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Nope, nope sorry. Can't rationalize this away. V and Belkar are clearly lovers now. (where's the barfy emoji when you need it?)
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Plus, that was more a refusal to room with Miko.
I think anyone or thing would have refused to room with Miko regardless of his, her, or its preferences. I'd bet she had her own cell at the Paladin Academy rather than a bed in the dorm like everyone else.
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I think anyone or thing would have refused to room with Miko regardless of his, her, or its preferences.
Roy seemed pretty interested in sharing a blanket with her when they first met. Took a little while for that to wear off.
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Hey, maybe we can get every ancillary character together, Avengers-style, for a giant fight against Xykon and the Snarl! I'm not sure if that would be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever. Maybe both.
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I'm not sure which side Sis would be on.
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I'm not sure which side Sis would be on.
Whatever her flaws, she seems like the type to have a strong self of self-preservation and wanting to be around. No one's going to notice how wonderful you are if no one is left
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OMG, green quiddity! Julia has joined the Eastern pantheon!

Well, no. Probably not.
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So no one else is assuming tat, for her to haunt him through the sword (green outline) that means she's dead? I even thought that was the big reveal.
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So no one else is assuming tat, for her to haunt him through the sword (green outline) that means she's dead? I even thought that was the big reveal.
I thought of that, but Eugene manifested in blue so I guess this is just a regular Sending.

Then again, a Sending avatar is often shown as a miniature version of the person Sending, so who knows?
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Yeah, I didn't read it as her being dead. But maybe Eugene manifested in blue because he's kicking around the front lawn of Celestia and green is some other plane's front lawn color?

My initial impression was that she's bothering him through some other magical scrying/communication means, though. I'll wait for next week to see if I'm wrong.
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I was waiting on this until a new strip was posted so I wouldn't set off a false alarm.

I don't think this is really a spoiler because the author himself chose to reveal it in advance. But in the author notes for Utterly Dwarfed, Burlew gave his usual cryptic hint about upcoming events from the next story arc.

He said:
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"Somebody who has appeared in exactly one (1) page of the story so far (including all the prequel stories) will become an important ally in the first half of the next book."


So speculations?
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I'm just glad that someone raised the chocolate-bar gnome from the dead so he could help put this story to rest.
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If it's Sending, then she's already wasted nearly half of her word allotment. And she wouldn't be able to watch him, and he wouldn't be able to sense her presence before she started talking.
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So no one else is assuming tat, for her to haunt him through the sword (green outline) that means she's dead? I even thought that was the big reveal.
That was my first thought as well.
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I was waiting on this until a new strip was posted so I wouldn't set off a false alarm.

I don't think this is really a spoiler because the author himself chose to reveal it in advance. But in the author notes for Utterly Dwarfed, Burlew gave his usual cryptic hint about upcoming events from the next story arc.

He said:
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"Somebody who has appeared in exactly one (1) page of the story so far (including all the prequel stories) will become an important ally in the first half of the next book."


So speculations?
I'm guessing a celestial entity from Roy's time dead.
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Hey, maybe we can get every ancillary character together, Avengers-style, for a giant fight against Xykon and the Snarl! I'm not sure if that would be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever. Maybe both.
That's pretty much what Nodwick did for its grand finale.
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I was waiting on this until a new strip was posted so I wouldn't set off a false alarm.

I don't think this is really a spoiler because the author himself chose to reveal it in advance. But in the author notes for Utterly Dwarfed, Burlew gave his usual cryptic hint about upcoming events from the next story arc.

He said:
SPOILER:
"Somebody who has appeared in exactly one (1) page of the story so far (including all the prequel stories) will become an important ally in the first half of the next book."


So speculations?
My own best guess on this is Eugene's old rival Suzy Finkelstein.
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Have we seen Kraggor alive in any strip other than #276? I know the rest of the Scribble acted like he was dead, but we never saw a body with Xs.

EDIT: We see him though in Xykon's reading of Serini's Diary though, don't we? It's hard to think of a character powerful enough to matter, that we've only seen in one strip. Besides Goblin Dan, of course. Aarindarius was in more than one strip, right?

If we hadn't seen Serini in a few prequel strips, I'd guess it was her. She certainly could have pulled off the ambush of O-Chul and Lien.

No idea why Julia is manifesting while Roy isreading the Weapon of Legacy book. Green glow on her avatar makes me think it's something to do with the sword.

Once a week isn't bad.

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Green is Julia's colour. Any Julia-centric magical effects will be green. Her changed speech balloon though makes me suspicious she's an outsider of some sort now.
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Well, since Julia is True Neutral, she must be the new leader of the Linear Guild, here to push Roy into some stupid sidequest that keeps us another five years from the end of the story.
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I'm guessing a celestial entity from Roy's time dead.
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My own best guess on this is Eugene's old rival Suzy Finkelstein.
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Have we seen Kraggor alive in any strip other than #276? I know the rest of the Scribble acted like he was dead, but we never saw a body with Xs.

EDIT: We see him though in Xykon's reading of Serini's Diary though, don't we? It's hard to think of a character powerful enough to matter, that we've only seen in one strip. Besides Goblin Dan, of course. Aarindarius was in more than one strip, right?

If we hadn't seen Serini in a few prequel strips, I'd guess it was her. She certainly could have pulled off the ambush of O-Chul and Lien.
My guess is some deity joining the main story. Maybe Pan. We saw him once in this strip. And he wasn't visible or named among the dead gods in the next strip. Plus there have been ongoing speculations that the Monster in the Darkness is a surviving member of the Eastern Pantheon.
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I thought it might be the MITD, following Alessan's guess that it was tied to Zeus in some way. But we see Zeus in two strips during the prequels.

I thought of the Hellish Telephone scene involving Lee and Tiamat, but Tiamat shows up in a few strips too.

LOL, maybe it's the Slaad from the Deva's childbirth scene?

I agree with your logic on it being some deity or the equivalent.

EDIT: would one of the Vector Legion we didn't see much of, make sense? I don't see it, but then I don't see how a deity popping into the story now would make sense either.

What's Durkon up to?

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My own best guess on this is Eugene's old rival Suzy Finkelstein.
I don't think she's appeared at all. She was just mentioned by Roy, I think.

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Besides Goblin Dan, of course.
Goblin Dan has appeared in two strips: 326 and 705.


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Yes. 634 and in Origin of PCs

How about Haley's Aunt Ivy? Or Haley's mom? Pretty sure both have appeared in only one strip each. Too bad cousin Jiminy has appeared in two strips; he'd be a lot more fun, I think. Oh, I know, Jiminy's cat.
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I don't think she's appeared at all. She was just mentioned by Roy, I think.
She appeared in one of the prequels, SOD I think, in a single panel flashback duelling Eugene at school while the Warthog watches.
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I don't think she's appeared at all. She was just mentioned by Roy, I think.



Goblin Dan has appeared in two strips: 326 and 705.




Yes. 634 and in Origin of PCs..
Damn it! On the Dan cite. I really thought he was a one strip joke.

Origin counts? Does Start of Darkness, or Snips, Snails...? Or the Kickstarter stories?

I see what you mean with the Aunt Ivy crack. After a while, it gets silly. I mean, we might as well nominate Banjthulu... I'm so glad we have OOTS to discuss again.
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Just so people know, you can look the stats up.

https://oots.fandom.com/wiki/Character_Index

This page shows how many times every character has appeared in. You can just scroll down until you get to the single appearances.

The most commonly appearing characters:

Roy - 752 appearances (including appearances in bonus material)
Haley - 681
Elan - 680
Belkar - 614
Durkon - 571 (Durkon the Vampire is counted separately and appeared 88 times)
Vaarsuvius - 526
Mr Scruffy - 224
Redcloak - 202
Blackwing - 180
Xykon - 180
Hinjo - 153
O-Chul - 142
Nale - 141
Monster in the Darkness - 111
Tarquin - 110
Sabine - 104
Miko - 101
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There are a lot of one strip characters. Maybe it will be GI Joe. Or Popcorn.
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This page shows how many times every character has appeared in. You can just scroll down until you get to the single appearances.
I like how Spartacus, Spartacus and Spartacus each get their own entry.
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I like how Spartacus, Spartacus and Spartacus each get their own entry.
Misspelled each time, too.
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Note that, if that list is based on the "Number of Character Appearances" thread (it probably is; I can't imagine anyone else independently tracking such things), then speech bubbles by the characters also count as "appearances", which might or might not be what Rich means.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to refer directly to the Number of Character Appearances thread, as the GiantITP message boards have been down for a couple of weeks.
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How about Haley's Aunt Ivy? .
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I see what you mean with the Aunt Ivy crack. After a while, it gets silly.
Not an entirely silly idea. She's likely a high level rogue anyway. And I've got reasons for thinking she'll return as a major character.
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