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Old 09-11-2019, 10:29 AM
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I got fired by email once.
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If you're wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton's firing tonight, it's because Bolton himself fundamentally was a man of the left... Don't let the moustache fool you, John Bolton was one of the most progressive people in the Trump administration.
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Old 09-12-2019, 08:31 AM
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It wouldn't surprise if the conversation went something like this:

Bolton, "If you feel that way about it Mr President, you may have my resignation."

Trump, "That's it, you're fired."

In that case, Bolton can say quite truthfully that he resigned, and Trump can think he fired him.
I suspect it went more like this.
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"If you're wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton's firing tonight, it's because you're a gullible idiot. They aren't."

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Old 09-12-2019, 11:03 AM
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I got fired by email once.
That never happened to me (getting fired, let alone by email, Iíve always quit or been laid off) but my first girlfriend dumped me in a letter. That sure sucked, she couldnít even be bothered to call me. (This was the mid-90s so no texting and even email was pretty new.)
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Trump probably thought he had hired Michael Bolton, and it took him this long to figure out who the guy with the walrus mustache was that kept showing up.
Either way, he got a no-talent assclown...
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I never liked Bolton. Still don't. But dammit, the man deserved to be treated with more respect than that.

He serves at the pleasure of the President. And if the President no longer wants him, he should be allowed the opportunity to resign. Firing him like he was a contestant on The Apprentice is undignified.

And I get it. On the list of this President's sins, it is pretty much near the bottom. But this one should irk conservatives as well.

And Tucker Carlson is an idiot.
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Trump is getting credit for firing Bolton. The same dumbshit moron who hired him is getting credit for fixing his own mistake.

Could the bar be set any lower for this pathetic, bumbling and incompetent shitbird?
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That never happened to me (getting fired, let alone by email, Iíve always quit or been laid off) but my first girlfriend dumped me in a letter. That sure sucked, she couldnít even be bothered to call me. (This was the mid-90s so no texting and even email was pretty new.)
OMG, you're still not over that? I told you, I hate breakup phone sex.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:53 AM
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The way I look at it, when all these people sold their souls to become puppets of this demon, they sentenced themselves to ultimately getting exactly what they deserved. It yet again proves, "When you dine with devil, you'd better bring a long spoon."
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And Tucker Carlson is an idiot.
It's interesting to see where he views the political center line to be. George W. Bush would clearly be a socialist. Would he also view Dick Cheney to be on the political left and a progressive?
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It's interesting to see where he views the political center line to be. George W. Bush would clearly be a socialist. Would he also view Dick Cheney to be on the political left and a progressive?
I believe Tucker would find some nice words to say at Hitler's funeral.
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The way I look at it, when all these people sold their souls to become puppets of this demon, they sentenced themselves to ultimately getting exactly what they deserved. It yet again proves, "When you dine with devil, you'd better bring a long spoon."
So, Mitch McConnell comes to you and says, "I will force the President to hire you as NSA. You will have significant control over our national security policy and have power to minimize the President's worst impulses - though you will have to accept enough bad decisions that you are able to maintain the position long enough that you can continue to block his worst impulses. If you choose not, then the President will appoint Alex Jones and, because of his popularity with the Republican base, the Senate will be forced to approve him. If you last long enough in the role, then there's an 80% chance that we will be able to push another semi-qualified individual onto the President over Alex Jones. If not, then he will probably appoint Alex Jones."

Sometimes, all of the options are bad, but some are less worse.

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National Security Advisor does not require senate approval. Moscow Mitch has no leverage here.
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That's a prime example of a major problem that keeps getting passes - even people who think Trump is terrible, corrupt, and utterly incapable and unworthy of the position continue to behave as apologists, desperately searching for even modest justifications and excuses for the large cadre of Trump enablers who could easily have done more to stop or at least ameliorate not merely the worst but nearly all his ill-conceived, unconsidered impulses.
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National Security Advisor does not require senate approval. Moscow Mitch has no leverage here.
Trump doesn't know that....
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"If you're wondering why so many progressives are mourning Bolton's firing tonight, it's because you're a gullible idiot. They aren't."

FTFH
The only way in which Liberals are mourning Bolton's passing is the sinking feeling we get (informed by experience) that this means the Trump will find someone even worse.
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National Security Advisor does not require senate approval. Moscow Mitch has no leverage here.
A fair correction.

Somehow, someone seems to have been convincing Trump to not get too insane with his National Security Advisors. So, I amend the statement to match whatever path it is that has allowed us to avoid NSA Alex Jones, to date.
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That's a prime example of a major problem that keeps getting passes - even people who think Trump is terrible, corrupt, and utterly incapable and unworthy of the position continue to behave as apologists, desperately searching for even modest justifications and excuses for the large cadre of Trump enablers who could easily have done more to stop or at least ameliorate not merely the worst but nearly all his ill-conceived, unconsidered impulses.
There is the other argument, that everyone should let Trump torpedo himself and his administration with bad choices.

Possibly, that could be or have been the right answer, I have genuinely no way of knowing, but there are significant risks with it:

1) The nuclear codes.
2) How badly does he fuck over the nation while destroying himself?
3) Does the right realize that he's fucking over the nation and being horrible? If the goal is to get him into impeachment territory, if that doesn't happen because his followers like what he's doing then all we've accomplished is to fuck over the country and make his base love him more.
4) Minus somewhat moral and patriotic people in the government, can we trust that Trump won't do something more extreme like trying to claim power over Congress?
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You're being too kind. Should Trump shoot himself in the head it will happen in the course of his trying to shoot someone else and missing very, very badly. He won't deserve credit for doing something right.
ade me think of this.
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4) Minus somewhat moral and patriotic people in the government, can we trust that Trump won't do something more extreme like trying to claim power over Congress?
He hardly needs to claim it - the Senate is still supine before him, although the Democratic House is at least doing some investigating.
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And don't forget the constant pressing to go to war with Iran....
You mean constant pressing to go to war with everyone.
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I am thinking that Bolton was fired for scuttling Trump's proposed talks with his new best friends the Taliban at Camp David, to take place on the anniversary of 9/11. This may have been a bridge too far for Bolton.

Although I admit it would have been absolutely fascinating to hear the Trumpistas try to say what a great thing it was for Trump to wine and dine Taliban leaders, and have a toast and a laugh right on the 9/11 anniversary.
Such a thing wouldn’t surprise me one bit, at this point.
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