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Old 12-13-2019, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AK84 View Post
Austin Metro area is No 30.
Seattle (16th), Denver (19tg), DC (6th or 3rd, depending on how Baltimore is counted), Boston (10th), Detroit (14th) and San Francisco (11th) are all larger.
OK, I guess the Wikipedia list was only listing the pure city limits themselves, not greater metro area.
Old 12-13-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyer View Post
Be careful how you interpret some of the data on that page.

Take Macon, GA for example. The population increased a whopping 68% over the past eight years. But that's only because Macon and Bibb County consolidated in 2014.
Old 12-13-2019, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JWT Kottekoe View Post
I don't think population density is the biggest factor. Here, according to Wikipedia, are the ten incorporated cities with the largest population density.

Gutenberg, NJ
Union City, NJ
West New York, NJ
Hoboken, NJ
Kaser, NY
New York, NY
Cliffside Park, NJ
East Newark, NJ
Maywood, CA
Passaic, NJ
Other relevant comments were made about that list. But I'd add it also how even 'metro area' isn't a simple way to define a 'city', taking the 9 related to NY. The first four (which are geographically contiguous) and Cliffside park are barely separate from Manhattan right across the river and also significantly less densely populated than Manhattan. NY's whole density comes out below that of Hoboken et al because Brooklyn and the Bronx are somewhat less dense than Hoboken et al, Queens less than half as dense and Staten Island around 1/5 as dense.

But Kaser NY (in Rockland Cty), Passaic and East Newark are only 'part of NY' in a much looser sense. It's kind of a fluke that anywhere in Rockland is that densely populated, and Newark and Passaic are real though moderate size cities in their own rights with their own histories and local culture to some degree. They aren't satellites of NY in quite the same sense as places a barely a mile from the west shore of Manhattan like like the first four. In fact also Hoboken is/was somewhat its own place and a fairly well known small city; it's become more homogenized into NY in recent decades as it reversed long decline in population went from 75k or some in early 20th century down to 30 growing back to 55 or so now as the quasi-sixth borough.

I agree as others said, when it comes to places close in population stuff like distinct history, what sports teams the place happens to have etc tend to also matter even after you correct to 'metro area' which still isn't a totally apples and apples kind of definition everywhere. Also POV. For example somebody said Seattle is recognized much more than Nashville. That's partly a particular cultural view within the US. In the South Nashville has a long history of being a quite major place, the 'Athens of the South' and, obviously, in the part of US culture nationwide that pays a lot of attention to country music it's a big deal also. Not everyone would agree that Seattle is a much more major city than Nashville.


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