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Trump can't be a Russian agent because a Russian agent would have acted less like a Russian agent than Trump did today.
Why should he start being good at something now?
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Check out the body language. Who looks like they had a good meeting? Who looks like they got shelled?

https://twitter.com/DevorrahTester/s...588122624?s=19
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Really bold, given that hes not in Russia. Helsinki is in Finland.
Halsinki, Sweden

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Old Yesterday, 07:59 PM
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Man, Trump looks like a beaten dog.
You misspelled "cuck"
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You misspelled "cuck"
Cuck Donald need to take off. That's close to the perfect insult to goad his deplorables.
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Anyway, this is, like, a big fucking story, right? Here it is. An agent of the Russian government using the NRA and Christian groups to establish a back channel with Trump, whom they were suspiciously certain would win when everyone else was preparing for President Clinton.

Uh... God. Damn.
The GOP is now the party of Putin.

The question is, is there at least a handful of Howard Bakers in the party? Is there even one Howard Baker?

McCain called the meeting a disgrace and Flake said similar things, but guess what? They're both irrelevant, and everyone knows it. The real mortal threat to American democracy isn't that just that the president has betrayed his country; it's that the Constitutional guardrails against such betrayal no longer exist.

It is now up to the American voter.
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Old Yesterday, 08:54 PM
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Well, thank you, Mr Sunshine!
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Old Yesterday, 09:33 PM
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Well, thank you, Mr Sunshine!
Can we call him Fiver yet?

Asahi, I love your posts, but sometimes after reading them I start to search for small apartments in Calgary.
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Old Yesterday, 09:56 PM
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Can we call him Fiver yet?

Asahi, I love your posts, but sometimes after reading them I start to search for small apartments in Calgary.
I've watched enough hockey to know that the emphasis is on the second syllable. It's cal-GARY. Also, "organization" is pronounced with a long eye, like or-gan-EYE-zation. I'm practicing.
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Old Yesterday, 10:26 PM
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The GOP is now the party of Putin.

The question is, is there at least a handful of Howard Bakers in the party? Is there even one Howard Baker?

McCain called the meeting a disgrace and Flake said similar things, but guess what? They're both irrelevant, and everyone knows it. The real mortal threat to American democracy isn't that just that the president has betrayed his country; it's that the Constitutional guardrails against such betrayal no longer exist.

It is now up to the American voter.
Thing is, McCain, Flake, and Corker (and some others if they wanted) could flip tomorrow to caucus with the Senate Democrats and flip control of the Senate. Not enough to do much other than shut everything down for a few months, but it'd be more than they're currently doing which is definitely nothing. But they're not going to and we all know it.
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Old Yesterday, 10:36 PM
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Thing is, McCain, Flake, and Corker (and some others if they wanted) could flip tomorrow to caucus with the Senate Democrats and flip control of the Senate. Not enough to do much other than shut everything down for a few months, but it'd be more than they're currently doing which is definitely nothing. But they're not going to and we all know it.
While McCain has continued his public disagreements with Trump, he's been too ill to attend Senate sessions for months (and is unlikely to be able to do so in the future), but point taken.
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I don't really want to start a new thread about the 2016 elections so I'll put this here:

Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States

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The nation's top voting machine maker has admitted in a letter to a federal lawmaker that the company installed remote-access software on election-management systems it sold over a period of six years, raising questions about the security of those systems and the integrity of elections that were conducted with them.

In a letter sent to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) in April and obtained recently by Motherboard, Election Systems and Software acknowledged that it had "provided pcAnywhere remote connection software … to a small number of customers between 2000 and 2006,"...

ES&S is the top voting machine maker in the country, a position it held in the years 2000-2006 when it was installing pcAnywhere on its systems. The company's machines were used statewide in a number of states, and at least 60 percent of ballots cast in the US in 2006 were tabulated on ES&S election-management systems. It’s not clear why ES&S would have only installed the software on the systems of “a small number of customers” and not all customers, unless other customers objected or had state laws preventing this.

... In 2006, the same period when ES&S says it was still installing pcAnywhere on election systems, hackers stole the source code for the pcAnyhere software, though the public didn’t learn of this until years later in 2012 when a hacker posted some of the source code online, forcing Symantec, the distributor of pcAnywhere, to admit that it had been stolen years earlier. Source code is invaluable to hackers because it allows them to examine the code to find security flaws they can exploit. When Symantec admitted to the theft in 2012, it took the unprecedented step of warning users to disable or uninstall the software until it could make sure that any security flaws in the software had been patched.


...In its letter to Wyden, ES&S defended its installation of pcAnywhere, saying that during the time it installed the software on customer machines prior to 2006, this was "considered an accepted practice by numerous technology companies, including other voting system manufacturers."

Motherboard contacted two of the top vendors—Hart InterCivic and Dominion—to verify this, but neither responded. However, Douglas Jones, professor of computer science at the University of Iowa and a longtime expert on voting machines confirmed that other companies did routinely install remote-access software during this period.

“Certainly, [Diebold Election Systems] did the same, and I'd assume the others did too,” he told Motherboard. “In the case of [Diebold], many of their contracts with customers included the requirement of a remote-login port allowing [the company] to have remote access to the customer system in order to allow customer support"

...As late as 2011 pcAnywhere was still being used on at least one ES&S customer's election-management system in Venango County, Pennsylvania.
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