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Somewhere on the Dope (I can't find it now) there was a thread right after Election Day that discussed if Pelosi should remain as Speaker or if somebody else should be her replacement. I was of the firm opinion that somebody else should take the helm; I suggested Adam Schiff.

I am extremely happy to admit that I was wrong.
Same for me. I'm going to cheer her using the new nickname Donny calls her:

Go Nancy!
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I admit it: I underestimated Pelosi. I thought she and Schumer would be Trump's punching bag, but I was wrong. I think Pelosi realized that Trump wanted a shutdown and decided "Fuck it, you want a shutdown? Okay, you can have one." And she probably did it knowing full well that once he got into that mess, he wouldn't have an easy retreat.
Trump probably spent the last week trying to find a contractor that he could refuse to pay, so he could walk out of this deal with all the profit.

I imagine he is more than a little confused by what just happened.
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Trump gives snide nicknames to people he feels contempt for and wants to delegitimize. Little Marco, Low energy Jeb, etc.

His nickname for Nancy is...Nancy
In Loser Donald's mind, this is a sick burn. The man hates being called by his first name. He was visibly upset when Hillary said "Can I call you Donald?" in the debates. You'll note that whenever he's telling a story (I.e. lying) about a conversation he had with someone, the person in the story never calls him "Donald" - it's always "Mr. Trump" or "Mr. President", even when it makes no sense that that person would talk to him so formally.

Because he's a narcissist, he can't imagine that anyone else would react differently than he does, so he thinks he's supremely insulting her by not calling her "Ms. Pelosi".

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In terms of fundamentals, we have established that Pelosi can hold the caucus together in the face of monumental stupidity by President Trump. After all, neither Republicans nor Democrats thought that shutting down the government was a good idea, and the wall is stupid anyway, which is why immigration hardliners block trades of wall for DACA.

Now Trump is a stupid guy who hires lousy advisers that he won't listen to. Or rather, the good ones leave in frustration, their reputation besmirched. So we might see a replay. But we can't count on that: Pelosi's challenges have just begun.


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I am rather curious what all else came into it other than Trump's plummeting approval rating. Pelosi didn't just succeed in outlasting him, she also forced him to give up on the State of the Union and cave in a pretty thorough manner, and that didn't seem to have anything to do with anything.

Trump is almost certainly the most compromised human on the planet, just because he does stupid, impulsive things constantly. I wonder if he tried to talk her into sex once, and she got it on tape or something.
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It has only gotten a small amount of public attention, but there were claims that the shutdown was shaving about a tenth of a percent of GDP growth for every week it went on. Most normal people would be more concerned about hundreds of thousands of their fellow citizens going without pay for a month, but I would think the Republican Donor Class would be extremely unhappy about any interference with profits, and may have been leaning hard on their lackeys to make it stop.

Nobody cared about Donald's SOTU except Donald
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Exactly. So what was the force acting on him to make him thoroughly capitulate?
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Exactly. So what was the force acting on him to make him thoroughly capitulate?
The ATCs and flight attendants threatening to strike at La Guardia may have been what finally forced his hand, from what I've read.
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The ATCs and flight attendants threatening to strike at La Guardia may have been what finally forced his hand, from what I've read.
And from LaGuardia, things would have only gotten much, much worse, with sick-outs elsewhere. As I understand it, we were days away from watching the aviation system in this country experiencing major disruption. Unlike having hundreds of thousands of employees quietly sitting at home, save for the occasional "poor me" interview, the optics of having hundreds of thousands and potentially millions of delayed passengers of all stripe would have been there for all to see.
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In terms of fundamentals, we have established that Pelosi can hold the caucus together in the face of monumental stupidity by President Trump. After all, neither Republicans nor Democrats thought that shutting down the government was a good idea, and the wall is stupid anyway, which is why immigration hardliners block trades of wall for DACA.

Now Trump is a stupid guy who hires lousy advisers that he won't listen to. Or rather, the good ones leave in frustration, their reputation besmirched. So we might see a replay. But we can't count on that: Pelosi's challenges have just begun.


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Excellent point. The reality-based big picture has nothing to do with some idiotic wall fantasy: rather, it's about DACA -- the lack of a middle ground between Republicans who insist it must not exist, and Democrats who insist it must be robust and permanent.

That "middle ground" could only be achieved as part of a much bigger, COMPREHENSIVE immigration reform bill, one that reduces the number of undocumented (further than this has already occurred naturally), by changing their status to "documented" (including, yes, a path to citizenship)...yet reduces (further than this has already occurred naturally) the incentives to enter the US (including some sensible improvements in border security).

There was movement toward such a bill in summer 2001...and then shit happened. There was again movement in spring 2006, with demonstrations in several cities. Obama, elected in 2008, knew he could get ONE major bill passed in his presidency -- immigration reform or health care insurance reform, but not both -- and he obviously chose the latter. There has been no serious push since (partly, perhaps, because it seems less urgent, as we continue to move away from a time -- the 1990s, basically -- that undocumented border crossings were anything like a major crisis...but the whole issue is still a big one, and should be addressed comprehensively).
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Pelosi has told him he can't do something, and is sticking to her guns. If more people, starting with his parents, had done this, he might not be the asshole he is today, and the world would be better off.
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... they just don't want to engage in an honest debate. Being binary relieves them of that intellectual burden. ...

there will never be anything progressives or even centrists can do to please the MAGAbots because they believe it's their country. ...

in their eyes, you're not a real America. There is nothing to negotiate with you. There is nothing to talk about. And they're tear down the all of the institutions they hate (but that the rest of us actually use and benefit from) just to demonstrate that point.

You cannot fucking compromise with these people, so let's stop compromising. And Mitch McConnell has shown, we cannot govern with these people, so let's stop trying ...

All we have left is the power to resist, and the power to make it known we're not taking this shit.
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I admit it: I underestimated Pelosi. I thought she and Schumer would be Trump's punching bag, but I was wrong. I think Pelosi realized that Trump wanted a shutdown and decided "Fuck it, you want a shutdown? Okay, you can have one." And she probably did it knowing full well that once he got into that mess, he wouldn't have an easy retreat.
It's a good thing too. because I believe Schumer would be Trump's punching bag, if it weren't for her.

This whole thing was a perfect example of how Trump CAN'T fight, when the other side can hit back. When they fight back, he doesn't know what to do. He's used to people who HAVE TO take his shit.
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In Loser Donald's mind, this is a sick burn. The man hates being called by his first name. He was visibly upset when Hillary said "Can I call you Donald?" in the debates. You'll note that whenever he's telling a story (I.e. lying) about a conversation he had with someone, the person in the story never calls him "Donald" - it's always "Mr. Trump" or "Mr. President", even when it makes no sense that that person would talk to him so formally.

Because he's a narcissist, he can't imagine that anyone else would react differently than he does, so he thinks he's supremely insulting her by not calling her "Ms. Pelosi".
I haven’t noticed the thing about the first name, but looking back, I think you’re right.

You’re right, also about not being able to understand that others don’t think like him. It’s interesting when he accuses people of wrongdoing, I would bet it’s almost always something HE would do so he totally projects.

I wish people dealing with Trump would focus more on his Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He’s a very simple and predictable person because of his NPD. Play to his narcissism and you win every time.

I am still utterly flabbergasted that people can hear him speak and think, “Yeah, that’s my guy.” How do you not see he is unqualified, in every conceivable way to a spectacular degree?

It is very satisfying to finally see someone sit him on his ass instead of catering to every deranged idea that he gets from Fox.
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In Loser Donald's mind, this is a sick burn. The man hates being called by his first name. He was visibly upset when Hillary said "Can I call you Donald?" in the debates. You'll note that whenever he's telling a story (I.e. lying) about a conversation he had with someone, the person in the story never calls him "Donald" - it's always "Mr. Trump" or "Mr. President", even when it makes no sense that that person would talk to him so formally.

Because he's a narcissist, he can't imagine that anyone else would react differently than he does, so he thinks he's supremely insulting her by not calling her "Ms. Pelosi".
I think that when Trump refers to her as Madame Speaker, she should return the courtesy and call him Mr President. But if he insists on the informal Nancy, then he becomes Donald.

This has the bonus goodness of the right-wing undoubtedly whining about her not showing respect for the office of the presidency and ignoring his lack of respect for Congress.
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It's a good thing too. because I believe Schumer would be Trump's punching bag, if it weren't for her.

This whole thing was a perfect example of how Trump CAN'T fight, when the other side can hit back. When they fight back, he doesn't know what to do. He's used to people who HAVE TO take his shit.
Right on both counts.
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It's a good thing too. because I believe Schumer would be Trump's punching bag, if it weren't for her.

This whole thing was a perfect example of how Trump CAN'T fight, when the other side can hit back. When they fight back, he doesn't know what to do. He's used to people who HAVE TO take his shit.

Ugh, Schumer drives me crazy. I think he’s weak and ineffective. And he gives the most boring speeches. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him sound like he actually means what he’s saying. Although, I will say he sounds better than Individual#1 when he attempts to read.

Schumer would have blown this whole opportunity.

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I think that when Trump refers to her as Madame Speaker, she should return the courtesy and call him Mr President. But if he insists on the informal Nancy, then he becomes Donald.

This has the bonus goodness of the right-wing undoubtedly whining about her not showing respect for the office of the presidency and ignoring his lack of respect for Congress.
And his lack of respect for the office of the President.
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And his lack of respect for the office of the President.
He shouldn't expect any respect after the "Adam Schitt" tweeting. Pelosi and Schumer should call him Don if he calls them Nancy and Chuck with that tweet at the ready.
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It's a good thing too. because I believe Schumer would be Trump's punching bag, if it weren't for her.

This whole thing was a perfect example of how Trump CAN'T fight, when the other side can hit back. When they fight back, he doesn't know what to do. He's used to people who HAVE TO take his shit.
Plus the fact that it's a WOMAN who's fighting back and throwing the shit back in his face, and he is totally baffled.
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Ugh, Schumer drives me crazy. I think he’s weak and ineffective. And he gives the most boring speeches. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him sound like he actually means what he’s saying. Although, I will say he sounds better than Individual#1 when he attempts to read.

Schumer would have blown this whole opportunity.
Nah, his nebbishness is no biggie. I'm very glad he's around.

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I am rather curious what all else came into it other than Trump's plummeting approval rating. Pelosi didn't just succeed in outlasting him, she also forced him to give up on the State of the Union and cave in a pretty thorough manner, and that didn't seem to have anything to do with anything.

Trump is almost certainly the most compromised human on the planet, just because he does stupid, impulsive things constantly. I wonder if he tried to talk her into sex once, and she got it on tape or something.
Trump's shtick relies heavily on insults, which makes it fall flat when the target is a woman. It's even worse when the target has strong message discipline, like Pelosi. It's still worse when the target understands Trump's weaknesses, as Pelosi does.

Hillary was a weak campaigner, but even she got under Trump's skin.
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I wish people dealing with Trump would focus more on his Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He’s a very simple and predictable person because of his NPD. Play to his narcissism and you win every time.
For most politicians, psychology is over-emphasized and the boring fundamentals of the situation are under-emphasized. So ordinarily I would disagree.

Not in this case. All Presidents preceding Trump have cared about their political party. They couldn't get where they are without the party, and they know their destiny is tied to it. So if someone is popular but not particularly bright, they surround themselves with decent advisors and listen to them. They consult with other party leaders.

But Trump really doesn't care about the GOP. He never held political office before; if he had, he wouldn't have been re-elected. Psychological quirks in general and NPD in particular are central to Trump, in a way they are not for any other politician throughout US history of any party. Trump is not susceptible to peer discipline, only to changes in popularity within his base. That's it.

That said, the fundamentals were against Trump: shutdowns have never worked in the past. Pelosi played a strong hand well. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...shutdown-ends/

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Trump's shtick relies heavily on insults, which makes it fall flat when the target is a woman. It's even worse when the target has strong message discipline, like Pelosi. It's still worse when the target understands Trump's weaknesses, as Pelosi does.

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Phooey, the whole freakin' world understands thump's weaknesses.

Nancy did not engage with him. It's the same tactic that works with trolls here that few avail themselves of. Don't take the bait. Don't play their game. Don't argue. Don't attack. Don't defend. Don't go back and forth page after page after page. IOW don't engage at all.

She told him how the cow ate the cabbage and then she shut up. THAT'S how it's done.
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Phooey, the whole freakin' world understands thump's weaknesses.

Nancy did not engage with him. It's the same tactic that works with trolls here that few avail themselves of. Don't take the bait. Don't play their game. Don't argue. Don't attack. Don't defend. Don't go back and forth page after page after page. IOW don't engage at all.
Disagree. She engaged, but in a very particular way. Her attacks were brutal, but indirect.

She hit him where it hurts, by gradually taking away something he wanted: the TV spectacle of the State of the Union address. With Charles Shumer, she baited him into taking responsibility for the shutdown on television. And check this out:
"Federal workers will not be receiving their paychecks," Pelosi said of the ongoing government shutdown. "What that means in their lives is tragic in terms of their credit rating, paying their mortgage, paying their rent, paying their car payment, paying their children's tuition."

Pelosi then accused Trump of being "insensitive" to federal workers, and took an apparent jab at the money Trump received from his father.

"The president seems to be insensitive to that," she said. "He thinks maybe they could just ask their father for more money. But they can't."
As Trump's fortune is grounded upon silver spoon, that was a cutting attack. But since it didn't involve name calling, it wasn't juvenile in the way Trump's frankly successful attacks on males are.


We might agree though. Pelosi didn't engage on Trump's level, but at a couple of levels higher. That helps.

ETA: Also agree troll management is relevant here. To take another example, Parkland survivor Hogg has a good approach: don't engage (directly) cutoff their oxygen.

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We might agree though. Pelosi didn't engage on Trump's level, but at a couple of levels higher. That helps....
That was my entire point. She didn't do it at his level. She didn't engage in the sense that she didn't jump down into the pit where he was beckoning her and go a few rounds with him. She didn't take the bait. She kept control of the game and didn't play on his field. She didn't get into a back-and-forth, name-calling contest. THAT is the way to beat a weak, stupid, immature bully like him.
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That was my entire point. She didn't do it at his level. She didn't engage in the sense that she didn't jump down into the pit where he was beckoning her and go a few rounds with him. She didn't take the bait. She kept control of the game and didn't play on his field. She didn't get into a back-and-forth, name-calling contest. THAT is the way to beat a weak, stupid, immature bully like him.
And critically, with a quiet, calm demeanor. The only jabs she threw were occasional one-liners with the offhand timing of a master comic.

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Disagree. She engaged, but in a very particular way. Her attacks were brutal, but indirect.

She hit him where it hurts, by gradually taking away something he wanted: the TV spectacle of the State of the Union address. With Charles Shumer, she baited him into taking responsibility for the shutdown on television. And check this out:
"Federal workers will not be receiving their paychecks," Pelosi said of the ongoing government shutdown. "What that means in their lives is tragic in terms of their credit rating, paying their mortgage, paying their rent, paying their car payment, paying their children's tuition."

Pelosi then accused Trump of being "insensitive" to federal workers, and took an apparent jab at the money Trump received from his father.

"The president seems to be insensitive to that," she said. "He thinks maybe they could just ask their father for more money. But they can't."
As Trump's fortune is grounded upon silver spoon, that was a cutting attack. But since it didn't involve name calling, it wasn't juvenile in the way Trump's frankly successful attacks on males are.


We might agree though. Pelosi didn't engage on Trump's level, but at a couple of levels higher. That helps.

ETA: Also agree troll management is relevant here. To take another example, Parkland survivor Hogg has a good approach: don't engage (directly) cutoff their oxygen.
This is a good analogy. Earlier in the thread I believe I used the term aikido-ka. Whatever we call it, she used Trump's aggression and turned it against him. This is why Trump is puzzled. Trump brags about being a counter-puncher but a lot of times he's just a straight up bully. Pelosi didn't want the shutdown but she knew it was coming and prepared for it. She let Trump have his stage time in advance of the shutdown. She let him play gladiator and he boasted that he would take the blame for the shutdown, probably with the assumption that people would forget what he actually said. They didn't, and Pelosi made sure of it.

She was also realistic. She knew she couldn't play Trump's game of tweeting and trying to compete with sound bytes. One, she knew would lose to the master, and two, she knew it wouldn't get her results. Pelosi beat him at a game that he hadn't prepared for. She let his decision's consequences speak for themselves, and then she took her fight to the public on the side of the 800,000 federal workers, many of whom are blue collar.

Trump is like a dog who just got into a fight with a nasty skunk or a racoon. His nose his bloodied and while he wants to strut around like he's the top dog, his nose hurts, and he has no idea what to do next.
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The ATCs and flight attendants threatening to strike at La Guardia may have been what finally forced his hand, from what I've read.
That's the shutdown. He caved on the SOTU a day or two earlier, and I'm reasonable sure that planes will fly just fine without a State of the Union address.
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So weak she won the popular vote?

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That's the shutdown. He caved on the SOTU a day or two earlier, and I'm reasonable sure that planes will fly just fine without a State of the Union address.

I'm hoping the twerp refuses to even (have)writ(t)e(n) a speech until he's fired. Then future presidents will get a homework assignment from Congress for every future SOTU. And that will be Tan the Conman's legacy on government.

Bonus: The nation won't have to listen to 45. (Actually, the only 45 I want to hear is the one he uses to blow his brains out.)

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I was a huge Hillary backer, but winning the popular vote by three million over Donald fucking Trump does not prove she's a good campaigner, nor does having to go the distance with Bernie. Kerry in '04 was better IMO.
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Bonus: The nation won't have to listen to 45. (Actually, the only 45 I want to hear is the one he uses to blow his brains out.)
I'd settle for this 45.
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I'm back from work travel and I will give Nancy "Nancy" Pelosi credit. She scored an important victory against Trump, one that might have finally done some lasting damage to the support he has from his base.

ETA: and she did it in a way that I did not think would work.

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Madmonk, in what way did you anticipate it not working? You thought voters would blame Democrats for not just funding the wall?
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Madmonk, in what way did you anticipate it not working? You thought voters would blame Democrats for not just funding the wall?
Or that Trump would keep the shutdown going instead? That was my fear.
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Nancy invited thump to STFU [sic] on February 5. I expect the cameras to spend a lot of time on her face as she sits behind him.
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Or that Trump would keep the shutdown going instead? That was my fear.
Pelosi knew that shutdowns are unpopular. They usually result in dropping poll numbers for the instigator. She used this knowledge to her advantage.

Trump is threatening to shut down the government again if he doesn't get what he wants by February 15. Is he really so stupid that he'll try this again?
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Pelosi knew that shutdowns are unpopular. They usually result in dropping poll numbers for the instigator. She used this knowledge to her advantage.

Trump is threatening to shut down the government again if he doesn't get what he wants by February 15. Is he really so stupid that he'll try this again?

A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. Why are these people allowed to vote again?
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Disagree. She engaged, but in a very particular way. Her attacks were brutal, but indirect.

She hit him where it hurts, by gradually taking away something he wanted: the TV spectacle of the State of the Union address. With Charles Shumer, she baited him into taking responsibility for the shutdown on television. And check this out:
"Federal workers will not be receiving their paychecks," Pelosi said of the ongoing government shutdown. "What that means in their lives is tragic in terms of their credit rating, paying their mortgage, paying their rent, paying their car payment, paying their children's tuition."

Pelosi then accused Trump of being "insensitive" to federal workers, and took an apparent jab at the money Trump received from his father.

"The president seems to be insensitive to that," she said. "He thinks maybe they could just ask their father for more money. But they can't."
As Trump's fortune is grounded upon silver spoon, that was a cutting attack. But since it didn't involve name calling, it wasn't juvenile in the way Trump's frankly successful attacks on males are.


We might agree though. Pelosi didn't engage on Trump's level, but at a couple of levels higher. That helps.

ETA: Also agree troll management is relevant here. To take another example, Parkland survivor Hogg has a good approach: don't engage (directly) cutoff their oxygen.
It got to hm.

He's not used to being told NO. She did it.
He's not used to being called on specific lies. She did it.
She hammered on the fact that this was HIS shutdown and wouldn't let him slime away like he's used to.
Part of above, she wouldn't let him blame someone else. He's not used to that.
She took away his so called SOTU, which would have been a bullshit stream of lies anyway - no captive audience to abuse.
Pointing out that he is a spoiled no-count trust fund brat who never earned anything, but had the world handed to him, was just the icing on the cake.
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A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. Why are these people allowed to vote again?
Let's take away their fucking subsidies.
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You ok? (I'm off to see if you opened an ATMB thread on moderation issues...)
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Huh?


You ok? (I'm off to see if you opened an ATMB thread on moderation issues...)
Since Huey Freeman got banned, apparently he's decided to go the route of ritual seppuku with Mod assistance.
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A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. Why are these people allowed to vote again?
Well, thump has a college degree, so there! 'Course his was bought and paid for. Not like he went to class or learned anything.

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Since Huey Freeman got banned, apparently he's decided to go the route of ritual seppuku with Mod assistance.
Someone take away his sword, please.
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Well, thump has a college degree, so there! 'Course his was bought and paid for. Not like he went to class or learned anything.

Someone take away his sword, please.
They did. (Mandatory cooling-off period, I believe).
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They did. (Mandatory cooling-off period, I believe).
Yeah, I saw. I can't help myself. I like the guy.
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Yeah, I saw. I can't help myself. I like the guy.
Yeah, me too, but jeez Louise, he sure is excitable.
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Yeah, me too, but jeez Louise, he sure is excitable.
True. And he sometimes bit the hand that was trying to befriend him. Reminds me of a savvy feral cat I used to know. (I'll see you at the Rainbow Bridge, Bigfoot. I expect you not to bite me.)
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A good chunk of his base apparently wants him to, if we can believe the interviews on NPR today. One woman grumbled that Pelosi and her Democratic caucus were “smartasses with college degrees”. Why are these people allowed to vote again?
As opposed to the dumbasses with college degrees from Trump university in the Republican base?
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