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Old 07-07-2019, 12:03 AM
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Jeffery Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking a minor


Outstanding news - Jeffrey Epstein, Hedge fund manager and Friend of Donald, has been arrested for sex trafficking minors. He could face 45 years in prison. He's been arrested by the hard working Southren District of New York.

From Daily Beast, who have been pursuing the Epstein story -

Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Sex Trafficking of Minors

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...ource?ref=home

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Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

For more than a decade, Epstein’s alleged abuse of minors has been the subject of lawsuits brought by victims, investigations by local and federal authorities, and exposés in the press. But despite the attention cast on his alleged sex crimes, the hedge-funder has managed to avoid any meaningful jail time, let alone federal charges.

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls in a now-familiar scheme: paying them cash for "massages" and then molesting or sexually abusing them in his Upper East Side mansion or his palatial residence in Palm Beach. Epstein will be charged with one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors—which could put him away for a maximum of 45 years. The case is being handled by the Public Corruption Unit of the Southern District of New York, with assistance from the district's human-trafficking officials and the FBI.
I seem to recall his agreement with the feds in Florida promised him immunity for other charges than the one he agreed to. That agreement has been found to have broken the law by not informing the many victims of its progress.

I suspect that the SDNY is banking the angle that they never promised Epstein immunity for crimes committed in New York.

Epstein's due in court on Monday. Expect a whole lot of pissing and moaning from lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who is himself accused of participating in Epstein's child sex ring.
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:08 AM
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Not just the Dodgy Beast. The WaPo, NYT & Miami Herald are reporting this.
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:28 AM
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Trump lackey Alexander Acosta, currently Secretary of Labor, is also implicated in having brokered a plea deal for Epstein in 2008 that pretty much let him off the hook with few repercussions despite a federal investigation having identified 36 underage victims:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/06/us/je...ent/index.html

If you're gonna be a pedophile, it's good to be a rich one. Same goes for being a misogynistic predator, as Trump knows. It's all right in the Republican playbook, under "Family Values".
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Which President flew on Epstein's private plane 26 times? Oh yeah Bill Clinton, inconvenient truth is that the guy was a huge democrat donor till around 2004 and then started donating more to republicans, why the need to politicize the issue? The guy is a sick fuck and people on both sides took his money, and hung out with him.
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When did Clinton promise to "drain the swamp"?
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Old 07-07-2019, 02:29 AM
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Which President flew on Epstein's private plane 26 times? Oh yeah Bill Clinton, inconvenient truth is that the guy was a huge democrat donor till around 2004 and then started donating more to republicans, why the need to politicize the issue? The guy is a sick fuck and people on both sides took his money, and hung out with him.
Only the republican side, in the form of DA Alexander Acosta, Trump's future Labor secretary, went on to write Epstein a sweetheart deal that got his charges handwaved away. Only the republican side went on to reward that cooperative DA with a cabinet position. Only the republican side, in the form of our current federal prosecutors, are still arguing that Epstein's original deal should stand even if they broke the law the in implementing it.

As for Bill Clinton - as far as I can tell, no one's accused him of doing anything but catching a free plane ride (unlike Epstein, Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz, who've all been accused of rape, directly by name.)

But hey, if anyone does accuse Bill Clinton directly, then I hope they throw the book at him. Only the republican side seems to think that mentioning Bill Clinton will give normal people second thoughts about pursuing real charges versus Jeffrey Epstein.
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In further great news, the US Court of Appeals has ordered over 2000 pages of documents relating to the Epstein case unsealed and released. Can't wait to find out what's in THAT mess.
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As for Bill Clinton - as far as I can tell, no one's accused him of doing anything but catching a free plane ride (unlike Epstein, Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz, who've all been accused of rape, directly by name.)
Not that I’m convinced he’s guilty but... Is your memory that bad?
https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/1072258...ita-broaddrick
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Christ, I hope they've learned their lesson about letting this predator out on the streets.
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Not that I’m convinced he’s guilty but... Is your memory that bad?
https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/1072258...ita-broaddrick
1. Broaddrick's got nothing to do with these particular charges against Epstein and the people on his plane (go round and round).

2. The reason that there were never any charges in the Broaddrick case is because she steadfastly refused to discuss the case publicly or file charges until the statute of limitations ran out.

3. Despite being begged by Ken Starr and other Republicans, Juanita Broaddrick refused to make any official statement about Bill Clinton under oath - except for a sworn deposition in which she states that he never touched her.

4. So, you know, absolutely nothing like the women who have been clamoring to have someone press charges in the face of prosecutorial protection for Epstein, Trump & Dershowitz.


As far as I can tell, no one related to the Epstein case has accused Bill of anything. I could be wrong. Maybe more charges will be filed. If someone has the goods on Clinton, let'em rip.

Either way, the Republican whataboutism as they desperately wave Bill Clinton's name about will remain super ineffective.
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Which President flew on Epstein's private plane 26 times? Oh yeah Bill Clinton, inconvenient truth is that the guy was a huge democrat donor till around 2004 and then started donating more to republicans, why the need to politicize the issue? The guy is a sick fuck and people on both sides took his money, and hung out with him.
Great, so if Bill Clinton is found to have done anything wrong here, I would like to see him in jail for it. So, the question is why do you find the need to politicize the issue?
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As for Bill Clinton - as far as I can tell, no one's accused him of doing anything but catching a free plane ride (unlike Epstein, Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz, who've all been accused of rape, directly by name.)
Dershowitz is a standard issue Democrat.

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From a 2010 case questioning Epstein:

"Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir."

Also from this interesting article:

"Trump was also listed in this section. Under his name were 14 phone numbers, including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump's security guard and houseman."

This article further makes the point that Trump, who attacked Clinton for everything real and imagined, didn't touch this issue with a ten foot pole for some reason.

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And that changes what?
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This sick fuck better get life in prison.
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And that changes what?
Opinions on whether he should be prosecuted, most likely.
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Which President flew on Epstein's private plane 26 times? Oh yeah Bill Clinton, inconvenient truth is that the guy was a huge democrat donor till around 2004 and then started donating more to republicans, why the need to politicize the issue? The guy is a sick fuck and people on both sides took his money, and hung out with him.

Well, that does it for me. I'll never vote for Bill Clinton again,.
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Which applies equally to Trump.
What's your point?
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Opinions on whether he should be prosecuted, most likely.
You make shit up as you go along just to fit the twisted narrative in your head.
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Which applies equally to Trump.
What's your point?
Wrong. It doesn't 'apply equally to Trump'. It's OK if a Republican does it.
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Wrong. It doesn't 'apply equally to Trump'. It's OK if a Republican does it.
It's a long standing GOP tradition:
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Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.

Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.

Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
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Either way, the Republican whataboutism as they desperately wave Bill Clinton's name about will remain super ineffective.
You literally said nobody ever accused Clinton of rape. Nice try to cover up, idiot. It doesn’t excuse anything the Republicans did and I’ll be pleased if Trump goes to prison for his sex crimes. Because unlike Clinton, I’m convinced that he actually is guilty.

But your statement was really stupid nonetheless. If you’re going to attack Republicans for being accused of rape (which I fully support, especially a shitbag like Trump who brags about assaulting women then later dismisses it by claiming he was joking) don’t contrast it with a Democrat who was also accused of rape and claim he never was. That’s dumb.
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You literally said nobody ever accused Clinton of rape. Nice try to cover up, idiot. It doesn’t excuse anything the Republicans did and I’ll be pleased if Trump goes to prison for his sex crimes. Because unlike Clinton, I’m convinced that he actually is guilty.

But your statement was really stupid nonetheless. If you’re going to attack Republicans for being accused of rape (which I fully support, especially a shitbag like Trump who brags about assaulting women then later dismisses it by claiming he was joking) don’t contrast it with a Democrat who was also accused of rape and claim he never was. That’s dumb.

No one ever accused Clinton of more than getting a free plane ride [in relation to this Epstein horror show and the remark about Clinton being a passenger in that plane]

That is the context I read it in. Literally, the only reason Clinton's name had already been mentioned in THIS thread is because of the statement that he got a ride in Epstein's plane.

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No one ever accused Clinton of more than getting a free plane ride [in relation to this Epstein horror show and the remark about Clinton being a passenger in that plane]

That is the context I read it in. Literally, the only reason Clinton's name had already been mentioned in THIS thread is because of the statement that he got a ride in Epstein's plane.
Then they should have clarified rather than doubling down on an inaccuracy.

Look, I wasn’t making a political point here, my initial post was a simple correction to a false statement (which I assumed was due only to faulty memory). I agree with the idea that Clinton has no culpability in this particular situation, and that bringing him up at all is a poor attempt at deflection.
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Which applies equally to Trump.
What's your point?
The poster seemed to believe Dershowitz was a Republican, and appeared to enjoy that the three accused of rape were from his enemy party. I was correcting him/her. Judging from my experience with partisan hacks, most likely the poster will omit Dershowitz altogether when engaging in rhetoric like that from now on. Only time will tell.

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. Broaddrick's got nothing to do with these particular charges against Epstein and the people on his plane (go round and round).

2. The reason that there were never any charges in the Broaddrick case is because she steadfastly refused to discuss the case publicly or file charges until the statute of limitations ran out.

3. Despite being begged by Ken Starr and other Republicans, Juanita Broaddrick refused to make any official statement about Bill Clinton under oath - except for a sworn deposition in which she states that he never touched her.

4. So, you know, absolutely nothing like the women who have been clamoring to have someone press charges in the face of prosecutorial protection for Epstein, Trump & Dershowitz.


As far as I can tell, no one related to the Epstein case has accused Bill of anything. I could be wrong. Maybe more charges will be filed. If someone has the goods on Clinton, let'em rip.

Either way, the Republican whataboutism as they desperately wave Bill Clinton's name about will remain super ineffective.
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Then they should have clarified rather than doubling down on an inaccuracy.

Look, I wasn’t making a political point here, my initial post was a simple correction to a false statement (which I assumed was due only to faulty memory). I agree with the idea that Clinton has no culpability in this particular situation, and that bringing him up at all is a poor attempt at deflection.
The italicized above look like clarifying statements to me.. your mileage obviously varies.
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The poster seemed to believe Dershowitz was a Republican, and appeared to enjoy that the three accused of rape were from his enemy party. I was correcting him/her. Judging from my experience with partisan hacks, most likely the poster will omit Dershowitz altogether when engaging in rhetoric like that from now on. Only time will tell.
He sure as hell quacks like one.
Also, Merneith made no mention of political party, that was you wanting to make sure The Democratic Party was equally smeared as evidenced by your "standard issue Democrat" in relation to underage sexual predation.
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The poster seemed to believe Dershowitz was a Republican, and appeared to enjoy that the three accused of rape were from his enemy party. I was correcting him/her. Judging from my experience with partisan hacks, most likely the poster will omit Dershowitz altogether when engaging in rhetoric like that from now on. Only time will tell.
You're a fucking idiot and your post is nothing but projection.
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The poster seemed to believe Dershowitz was a Republican, and appeared to enjoy that the three accused of rape were from his enemy party. I was correcting him/her. Judging from my experience with partisan hacks, most likely the poster will omit Dershowitz altogether when engaging in rhetoric like that from now on. Only time will tell.
Dershowitz is an idiot hack and a warmonger -- who cares what party he claims?

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Trumpster whataboutism--one of the first posts on my Facebook page this morning was a Trumpster posting a news article about this with the comment: "Bill Clinton's buddy."

And don't forget the other Clinton's pizza parlor basement.
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Which President flew on Epstein's private plane 26 times? Oh yeah Bill Clinton, inconvenient truth is that the guy was a huge democrat donor till around 2004 and then started donating more to republicans, why the need to politicize the issue? The guy is a sick fuck and people on both sides took his money, and hung out with him.
I'll be satisfied if they treat Donald Trump the same way Republicans would treat Bill Clinton.
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Dershowitz is a standard issue Democrat.
I didn't realize that standard issue Democrats were such Trump fans. The approval rating on Trump among Democrats seems to belie your claim here.
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Which President flew on Epstein's private plane 26 times? Oh yeah Bill Clinton, inconvenient truth is that the guy was a huge democrat donor till around 2004 and then started donating more to republicans, why the need to politicize the issue? The guy is a sick fuck and people on both sides took his money, and hung out with him.
Whatever happens to Epstein (and Trump) regarding pedophila-related crimes, I have no problem with that happening to Bill Clinton as well. But at least let's start with putting Epstein on trial for his latest charges and seeing what they can be rolled up into.
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Whatever happens to Epstein (and Trump) regarding pedophila-related crimes, I have no problem with that happening to Bill Clinton as well. But at least let's start with putting Epstein on trial for his latest charges and seeing what they can be rolled up into.
Agreed. Whoever was involved, a pox on all their houses.
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Either way, the Republican whataboutism as they desperately wave Bill Clinton's name about will remain super ineffective.
But, but... but. What if Clinton was a rapist. Pathetic. He did it too!!! is a pretty sad defense.

But we are looking at republican morons and criminals. That's all they have.
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When the Miami-Dade police were doing the initial investigation into the Epstein case, Dershowitz doxxed the investigators.
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The Miami Herald did an excellent investigative series on the prosecutorial corruption encountered by Epstein’s victims and his intimidation of local, state and federal law enforcement.

This link goes to the first story in the series, there is a dropdown on top that you can use to progress to the later stories.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...220097825.html
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:49 PM
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When the Miami-Dade police were doing the initial investigation into the Epstein case, Dershowitz doxxed the investigators.
Wow, sure looks he feels guilty.
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The Miami Herald did an excellent investigative series on the prosecutorial corruption encountered by Epstein’s victims and his intimidation of local, state and federal law enforcement.

This link goes to the first story in the series, there is a dropdown on top that you can use to progress to the later stories.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...220097825.html
That’s disgusting. Slugs shrivel up when exposed to too much sunlight, hopefully there’s now enough light that some justice can come out of this.
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Is there any indication that we get to learn more at tomorrow’s hearing?
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:12 PM
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Dershowitz has had a long and fabled career defending scumbags and helping the rich and powerful to escape justice. He's a natural for Trump and Epstein. Hell, Farnaby no doubt fantasizes about being a rich scumbag, instead of the garden variety kind, in the event he someday needs a Dershowitz too.
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Whatever happens to Epstein (and Trump) regarding pedophila-related crimes, I have no problem with that happening to Bill Clinton as well. But at least let's start with putting Epstein on trial for his latest charges and seeing what they can be rolled up into.
In all honesty, I do not understand why banging children has so often been treated as a quirk in "sophisticated" circles. Roman Polanski, Jeffery Epstein, Kevin Spacey, those British dudes. God only knows how many others.
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Quicksilver, Beverly Russell (a man) not only molested his stepdaughter, but he was also exposed after that stepdaughter strapped her two toddlers into their car seats and let the car roll into a pond, and later claimed she was carjacked by a black man.

Does that story sound familiar? It should; he was the stepfather of one Susan Smith.
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Quicksilver, Beverly Russell (a man) not only molested his stepdaughter, but he was also exposed after that stepdaughter strapped her two toddlers into their car seats and let the car roll into a pond, and later claimed she was carjacked by a black man.

Does that story sound familiar? It should; he was the stepfather of one Susan Smith.
I know this wasn't directed at me but that's interesting, at least in a morbid way, I had never heard about that connection.
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Well, this is interesting...

Guess Whose Daughter Is Reportedly a Prosecutor in Jeffrey Epstein Case

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Quicksilver, Beverly Russell (a man) not only molested his stepdaughter, but he was also exposed after that stepdaughter strapped her two toddlers into their car seats and let the car roll into a pond, and later claimed she was carjacked by a black man.

Does that story sound familiar? It should; he was the stepfather of one Susan Smith.
I remember that tragic story, but was not aware of the connection.
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Smith said that the incest started when she was 15, and never stopped; both admitted that the last incident was just a week or two before she killed her children. Both of them also stated that the sex was always consensual, but we all know that it was a terrible violation of boundaries.

Neither his wife nor her (estranged) husband knew about it before the disaster.

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Dershowitz is a standard issue Democrat.
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