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Old 09-13-2019, 10:17 AM
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My interest in Yang just went from "Vaguely intrigued and Glad There's a Fresh Face Proposing New Ideas" to "GTFO."
Same. Also, I'm concerned about a candidate that has obnoxious and ill mannered fans, like the current POTUS.
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His ethnic jokes were cringeworthy, too - "I'm Asian, so I know a lot of doctors" wasn't the only one, either.

Time to clear the stage, Andrew.
Unfortunately, it's the age we live in.

We live in a viral world, a meme world, a YouTube replay world. He doesn't have the name recognition the other candidates have, so he has to fight guerilla warfare style. I don't like it either, but welcome to life in 2019.
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Unfortunately, it's the age we live in.

We live in a viral world, a meme world, a YouTube replay world. He doesn't have the name recognition the other candidates have, so he has to fight guerilla warfare style. I don't like it either, but welcome to life in 2019.
How is "there's lots of asian doctors" guerrilla warfare in a meme world? Did you mean to address criticism of his giveaway announcement? Because that's viral and YouTube worthy stuff. But it will offend a lot of reliable voters.
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Resorting to stereotype reinforcing “jokes” is not a meme.

Whether is Harris and her ganja joke at the expense of the heritage of her father’s side or this and his math schtick.

You accept the negative when you accept the positive.
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How is "there's lots of asian doctors" guerrilla warfare in a meme world? Did you mean to address criticism of his giveaway announcement? Because that's viral and YouTube worthy stuff. But it will offend a lot of reliable voters.
I mean that he's doing what he can to gain attention, even if it's potentially negative. I don't take Yang seriously as a possible front-of-the-pack candidate, but it's clear that he knows how to use modern media to market himself. He's done that arguably as well as any candidate running. He's willing to risk alienating some voters because he needs voters to know he exists in the first place. He can always apologize and change his position later.
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:12 PM
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Yang has a lot of good ideas. Unfortunately, he has a few too many nutty ideas.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:48 PM
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Zach Graumann, Yang's campaign manager, released some stats about the debate:

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Despite speaking the least amount of time last debate:

$1m raised
450k email entries
3x more web traffic than all other candidates

We are playing a different game. And it’s working.
The Yang2020 website has the number of entries by state. One of the Yang Gangers calculated that by population size. It's amazlingly proportional by population in pretty much every state across the country. There are also stories of how the money would be used by some of the entries.

Politico reported Andrew Yang’s campaign says over 450,000 people have entered debate contest

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Andrew Yang’s surprising debate gambit — giving away $120,000 to 10 families over a year to highlight his universal basic income proposal — helped the outsider candidate raise $1 million in the 72 hours since the debate and collect more than 450,000 email addresses from people who entered the online raffle, the presidential campaign told POLITICO.

The campaign said that over 90 percent of the email addresses are new, a huge expansion of the candidate's email list. He also gained more Twitter followers over the course of the debate than any other candidate.
Early indications were already positive. The day after the debate, some sources were reporting that Yang's campaign website got 116K hits minutes after the announcement and got donations of $120K within hours.

Yang had the biggest increase of twitter followers than any other candidate. His sub count increased as well. Since my last update, twitter followers increased roughly 100K to 850K. Subs on Reddit increased to 64.3K (increasing 300 while I composed this note) People online at the sub also increased from a high of 3K to a high of 5K over the weekend. Yang's Google searches were the highest or second highest after the debate. Biden was highest at times with the search word record player.

Yang celebrating at the debate party.

The day after the debate, there were multiple reports in the Yang subreddit of people saying that instead of them having to ask people about Yang, everyone in their workplace or school was talking about him to each other and to them.

Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit, offered to pay the $120K if the Yang campaign was disallowed.

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Hey @AndrewYang I like this idea so much I'll do it personally for those 10 people if you can't.

We talk about the future of AI often at @Initialized -- our nation needs to start exploring ways to adapt to the massive automation shift that's already happening.
Yang replied "Alexis you are a class act my friend. Will call you soon. Thank you."

Multiple people have offered to give one or two people the equivalent of a Freedom Dividend over the course of the campaign. Justin Sun offered to pay for 100 people. They haven't done it yet because of campaign finance laws.

From the SF Chronicle, Pundits laugh at Andrew Yang. Regular people don’t

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The Yang Thang is on a roll.

Democratic presidential candidate and businessman Andrew Yang’s call to give every American a $1,000-a-month “freedom dividend” may be getting short shrift from pundits, but it has struck a chord with voters, who feel they rarely see a dime of their tax dollars coming back to them.
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I keep running into regular people who ask how to contact Yang. He’s connecting on a level we rarely see in politics.
A few people felt that the politicians on the debate stage were laughing at them (the people who needed the money). On twitter,

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It’s easy to laugh off @AndrewYang and his #FreedomDividend when you’re a politician or news anchor who’s net worth is in the multi millions. 1k is pennies to them. 1k/mo for the average American would literally change lives. Let me share:
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But NO...they laugh. We think they were laughing at Yang giving money to 10 families across the country, but who they were really laughing at is us.

They don’t trust us to handle our own business and our own needs. When they snickered, they laughed at the homeless, they laughed at the needy, they laughed at those living paycheck to paycheck.
Some nice remarks from people on the debate:

Ezra Klein of VOX
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Outright defenses of the benefits of immigration are way too rare. America has no greater advantage than the millions of people who want to come here, work hard, and contribute their energy and ingenuity to this country. We should take them up on it. Yang's answer here was great.
Cenk Uygur of TYT
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All of these snarky attacks on Democracy Dollars from idiots in establishment who support wholesale corruption in our politics. In reality, this proposal is one of the best policies of the 2020 election cycle. It empowers real people to compete with big money donors. #DemDebate

David Pakman

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I'm seeing some "political analysts" claiming Kamala Harris OBVIOUSLY won tonight...what debate did you watch? @ewarren did really well. @AndrewYang had his best debate so far.
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Brilliant piece by Philip Howard. But let's not forget that @AndrewYang is also the most aggressive campaign finance reformer left on stage. That too is a critical part of fixing government
Yang was the top rated Presidential candidate at Equal Citizens, Lawrence Lessig's group.

On Yang's supporters, a Newsweek journalist notes:

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. @AndrewYang's supporters are legit the most reasonable, civil and polite group of people I've ever encountered on Twitter... By a very long mile #YangGang

So unusual in this political climate..
On Yang's donors, some of the Yang Gang are wondering why Pete Buttigieg spending $300K to charter private jets to travel to campaign events is not frowned upon but Yang giving money to the American people is. Most people in this thread were proud to give to this cause and gave more after hearing the announcement. Some considered starting a Gofundme campaign for the funds.

Over the weekend, there was a drama with Shane Gillis, a new hire on SNL. A video surfaced where he was making racial slurs. Yang was the target of one of the slurs. Yang reached out to Gillis and offered to talk. He also suggested that Gillis be offered forgiveness and not fired. SNL fired Gillis on Monday. Yang reported that Gillis did reach out to him to talk. CNN's interview with Yang, partially on that topic, is now trending on youtube.

On the day of the debate, a podcast released at the NYT that, to me, exemplifies the campaign. A journalist, Kevin Roose, had interviewed Yang at the start of his campaign, wrote an article about it, calling Yang's campaign a longer-than-long-shot. [Zach Graumann used that phrase to fire up the campaign and create benchmarks for the campaign team] Since then, the journalist revisited Yang since Yang is polling higher than that designation would allow, to try to understand what he missed.

Here's what Kevin Roose missed.

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The episode ended where it began, with Kevin articulating what he failed to foresee in his article back in 2018, when he called Yang’s platform a longshot.

“Since then, he’s been able to turn it into a discussion about what it means to be a human — about what we would do if we weren’t so worried about making ends meet,” Kevin explained. “And I think that’s the part that I didn’t see when I first met him was that this argument — this sort of wonky economics argument about automation and U.B.I. and G.D.P. and all these other three-letter acronyms — that he could make it appeal to people on an emotional level by saying this is not just about giving you free money. But instead, he’s saying it’s not about the money. It’s about what the money can allow you to do. And that’s the part that I think I missed.”
The day before the debate, Ted Cruz challenged Yang to a basketball matchup. A Yang Ganger told Cruz that he should challenge Yang at basketball (since there were reports of Yang warming up on the courts before the debate. Cruz responded with "Sorry. You gotta poll at 5% or more to play on my court." Yang included a screen shot of a 5% poll and challenged Cruz. "Ted I would be delighted to beat you in basketball." Cruz offered to play with 3 of his staff on his team. Yang countered to play one on one.

A couple fun things (to me anyway). A guy created a huge replica of a math hat and put it on top of his van. Another Yang Ganger created an anime video on Yang. It's amazingly well done. I am in total awe. But wut? Still, the creativity and ingenuity of the Yang Gang continues to amaze me.

Yang held a rally in Boston today. It looked like it was well-attended.

Tomorrow, 9/17/19, there will be another rally in Philadelphia, PA at at 6:30PM.

Then on Thursday, 9/19/19, Yang is scheduled to be on Seth Meyers.


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Wow, Yang got lots of web traffic after announcing a big cash give away? Innovative guerrilla tactics.
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The DNC released qualifications for the November debate. Candidates need over 165K donors and 4 national polls of 3% or higher or 2 polls of 5% or higher in early states.

Yang has passed the donor mark with over 200K donors. He has hit 3 qualifying polls with 3% or more. He needs 1 more qualifying poll to make it to the November debate with over a month to qualify.

He is a lock for the October debate. Gabbard and Steyer also made it to the October debate. The October debate is scheduled for October 15 and so far, is said to be slated for one night only. 12 people on the stage at the same time.

I was just about to link the debate qualification spreadsheet some guy from Politico is updating, but the Yang Gang crashed it the other day and the author couldn't update it, so I decided to refrain. Zach (PR mgr) was proud.

Some notable recent polls. Yang hit 10% in a poll (not verified by me) of college students, placing him in third among college students. He hit 7% in California in an Emerson poll, placing him in 4th place in that poll. He also had a 7% in a SurveyUSA poll. Yang also hit 8% in a national Emerson poll.

Some interesting information (from Nerds for Andrew Yang) from that Emerson poll is that Yang is polling higher with hispanics, Republicans, people aged 18-34 and people making over $100K/yr.

Business Insider has Yang ranked at 5th on 9/20.

Yang opened 2 new offices in Iowa to a good reception. There were people going down a long hall, down the stairs and out the door to get a selfie with him.

When Yang showed up to play some basketball with his staff at Georgetown University, a bunch of students showed up to take selfies that created a line around the gym.

There was an interview with a guy who received one of the first Freedom Dividends. He was skeptical at the time, not committing to vote for Yang, but he has since been more positive. He makes a nice analogy of getting a cash benefit as better than a monitored program to getting a cash gift or a gift card that you might not be able to use.

There were several nice interviews with Yang this week. The View did a positive interview. Van Jones also did a nice interview. Firing Line did an interview. He was also on Seth Meyers. Yang was also on Rachel Maddow but got shortened time due to the impeachment inquiry news. The Takeout by Major Garrett released their interview in its entirety in March. They only released a one minute clip in March. It was a pretty nice interview. Too bad they didn't release that in March. The Hill also did a nice interview with Yang. The Hill also had a segment on UBI when a poll taken recently showed a big increase in favorability of UBI. After the Houston debate, Nate Silver and team (Galen) ran into Yang at the airport. They decided to do a podcast in the airport lounge. Yang was on CNN's climate town hall.

A NYT article by a Harvard economics professor, N. Gregory Mankiw (wiki) compared Yang's VAT against Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax and found Yang's plan to be better in practicality and the likelihood of wealth distribution success.

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In the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Elizabeth Warren, of Massachusetts, and Andrew Yang, a former tech executive and entrepreneur, have both proposed bold plans for redistributing economic resources.

Their plans are as different as can be. Only Mr. Yang’s is practical.
. . .
Instead, let’s consider a simpler question: Assume that one way or another, the government is going to pursue new policies to increase the equality of economic outcomes. Given that assumption, what is the best approach?
. . .
The Yang proposal would not only be more workable than the Warren plan, but it would also target those who spend lavishly.
. . .
The Warren proposal hits the frugal executive hard but leaves the spendthrift without a scratch. The Yang proposal hits the spendthrift hard and takes a smaller bite from the frugal person who has saved his money. If you, like me, think that society could benefit from fewer spendthrifts and more savers, Mr. Yang’s proposal makes much more sense than Senator Warren’s.

And if the goal is to raise substantial revenue from rich taxpayers to strengthen the social safety net, Mr. Yang’s plan is more likely to succeed.
Some fun stuff. The artists and musicians are showing up more and more. I loved this acoustic guitar piece done for the Yang Gang done by Musician for Yang on twitter. There was a amazing piece of art done with a magnifying glass and the sun to burn wood of a medallion of Yang. Yang was parodied on SNL. Yang has been looking forward to this for a while. Yang wrote, "If you give me some notice @nbcsnl I am happy to come in and play myself." Zach jokes about his life on the campaign trail, "This picture about sums up my life right now. At a steak-fry in Iowa. Yang having more fun than he’s supposed to. I’m holding a plate of something deep fried while fending off a reporter."

Milk+T in LA made a BobaYang drink in honor of Yang's love of Boba tea, as well as a sticker of a Boba drinking Yang. Some of the proceeds get donated to the campaign.

The campaign put out a call to raise a $1.5M about a week before the end of the quarter. In contrast to last quarter, when the call fell short of the goal, the Yang Gang surpassed the $1.5M and is trying for $2M by the end of the quarter. Right now, they're at $1.675M with about 9 hours to go.

The Yang Gang have been doing community service projects on the weekends, like picking up trash. There are a several groups doing this in different areas.

The Philadephia rally went well. Yang jogged in to the tune of Rocky. He had just hit 7% in CA in the Emerson poll.

Today, 9/30/19, is an exciting day for the Yang Gang. There's a rally planned for LA at MacArthur Park. The Yang Gang is planning to fly a banner over the event. It's also the end of the quarter. Hours before the rally, Yang is seen riding a scooter in LA.

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Not reading the thread. Just want to say that The Cult of Yang on social media has been nothing short of off-putting and screaming that the media is giving more time to someone polling at 1% when you're only getting 3% is not some conspiracy against your outsider candidate. It's because you are an outsider candidate - the media wants to talk to Senators (Klobuchar, Booker) and elected reps (Gabbard) regardless of their poll numbers. When literally 97% of people are picking someone other than you, it doesn't take anti-media conspiracy theories to explain the dearth of coverage.

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Not reading the thread. Just want to say that The Cult of Yang on social media has been nothing short of off-putting and screaming that the media is giving more time to someone polling at 1% when you're only getting 3% is not some conspiracy against your outsider candidate. It's because you are an outsider candidate - the media wants to talk to Senators (Klobuchar, Booker) and elected reps (Gabbard) regardless of their poll numbers. When literally 97% of people are picking someone other than you, it doesn't take anti-media conspiracy theories to explain the dearth of coverage.
Thank You!!!! I am really trying to follow Peteís rules of the road, but the nastiness of the Yang Gang has really made me angry. When Yang releases his fundraising numbers, Iím not going on Twitter just to troll him. Iím not sure Ron Paul had this devoted of a cult and such fervent conspiracy theories.
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The LA rally last Monday was epic. Zach claims there were 5K people in attendance. There were multiple livestreams going on at the same time. Paget Kagy did a livestream as well as Problem Solver Politics and Yangstream. Paget spoke in the introduction. MC Jin (rapper) did a rap, and a friend of Yang, Brian Yang (no relation), from back in Yang's first failed business made some comments. Brian Yang also set up the fundraiser function the next day in LA.

The LA rally had break dancers, pyrotechnics, and people chanting through the whole thing. The whole thing felt electric, even just watching the livestream. After one of the rallies, Yang rode some guy's skateboard that was trying to get him to sign. Zach posted out the nice parts of the ride that got played on the Colbert show. The owner of the skateboard showed it until the end when he wiped out. Still, he was pretty impressive.

The next week, Yang had interview with the Snapchat CEO, NPR, The Real, John Harwood, Alyssa Milano's podcast Sorry Not Sorry, Eric Weinstein's podcast The Portal. He had the largest surge in polling of college students, jumping to 10.4%. Twitter followers passed 900K, reddit subs passed 70K (now close to 72K; reddit being reddit celebrated at 69K and forgot about it at 70K). Yang moved up to #4 in the Business Insider ranking.

The campaign announced that they had picked and notified the 10 Freedom Dividend winners.

Then the Yang campaign announced his fundraising haul of $10M. It was a 257% increase over his $2.8M raised in Q2. The Yahoo Finance graph show who is gaining momentum and who is losing speed.

The Yang campaign gave the exclusive story about his raising $10M in Q3 to CNN. CNN returned the favor by not adding Yang to any of their graphics. Instead they chose to feature Cory Booker with $6M and leaving Yang out entirely. MSNBC did the same but said it was a timing issue. CNN didn't have that excuse. In protest, the Yang Gang started donating to the campaign and posting their receipts.

Rolling Stone
did an article on Yang called Inside the Making of Andrew Yang 2.0
The dark-horse Democrat just raised $10 million. Heís on a hiring spree and building a legit campaign. But how far can he go?
This is a great behind the scenes look at Yang's campaign as it unfolds. It tells of Yang's new campaign hires and how much political experience they have and a bit about strategy.

Saturday, Oct. 5th was National Yang Gang day. A bunch of the Yang Gang got together and organized a day when Yang Gang from all over the country got together with people in their local area. There were pictures of Yang Gang getting together in cities all over the country. The LA Yang Gang had about 150 people getting together. They were gathered together on the steps near the Santa Monica Pier when a street performer started yelling at them to go away and stop taking his spotlight. The Yang Gang stopped doing what they were doing, went over to the street performer and filled his bucket with donations, then stood as his audience as the guy started singing "Hallelujah" to them. Later, they had a movement going to get that guy's subscriber count on youtube up to the threshold where he could get his channel monetized. Paget was there livestreaming. It was an incredible moment.

The LA Yang Gang also helped a homeless woman who was telling her story to a camera crew at the gathering. She told Paget Kagy to thank all of them for all the money she received which was about the equivalent of a Freedom Dividend.

Personally, these are the best parts of the campaign for me. I've read so many stories of how this campaign has lifted people out of depression or given people hope. There's a guy who says in twitter that he had tried to commit suicide by setting himself on fire and had lost all hope until he found this campaign. I saw him at the LA fundraiser talking to Paget. Yang retweets a bunch of tweets all the time about people saying that this campaign has lifted them out of depression because they feel hope for the first time. There was a woman at an early rally who gave her story about how the campaign took away her depression. Several people with autism have written about how they feel acceptance for the first time with Yang talking about his son with autism. It's heartwarming to read these stories about how the campaign has changed people's lives.

Last night, Andrew Yang showed up at the Rich Brian of 88Rising opening of the Sailor tour. Yang introduced Rich Brian. When Yang appeared on the stage, the crowd went wild, chanting "Andrew Yang".

Yang just made the November debate which will take place on November 20 in Atlanta. So far, 8 candidates have made it to that debate in November. Yang is already scheduled for the debate in October on October 15.
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