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Old 03-04-2020, 08:10 AM
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Why are the news nets playing up American Samoa's primary votes but not other territories?


Don't Puerto Rico, Guam, the Northern Marianas, and US Virgins have presidential primaries? Is this part of a push to make Samoa a state? Note that I am of an imperialistic bend and think that would be wicked cool. Can we make the others states, too?

[Aside] My brother used to be the Attorney General of the Northern Marianas (a big $25k/year) and thinks they want a split statehood with the U.S. and Japan. And that manufacturers don't like statehood because they can put on a made in the USA label while avoiding paying minimum wage. [/Aside]

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Old 03-04-2020, 08:23 AM
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American Samoa was talked about because American Samoa was the only territory to hold a primary on Tuesday.
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Northern Marianas March 14, 6 delegates
Puerto Rico March 29, 51 delegates
Guam May 2, 7 delegates
Virgin Islands, June 6, 7 delegates
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Possibly because the guy who spent hundreds of millions on ads, helping to prop up those news networks financially won that primary.
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As an aside - why do territories get to vote in Presidential primaries when they do not vote in the Presidential election itself?
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Old 03-04-2020, 08:58 AM
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A) It was the only territory to vote yesterday.
B) The result was really weird.

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Political party rules are much easier to change than the US constitution.

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As an aside - why do territories get to vote in Presidential primaries when they do not vote in the Presidential election itself?
Because the parties have members living in those territories.
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As an aside - why do territories get to vote in Presidential primaries when they do not vote in the Presidential election itself?
I think it's because the territories are impacted by presidential decisions (see Hurricane Maria) so it's only right they have a voice, minor as it may be, in the nomination process.
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American Samoa was talked about because American Samoa was the only territory to hold a primary on Tuesday.
Um, besides that.

Okay, smarty pantses, how about my statehood idea? How does that fail?
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Um, besides that.

Okay, smarty pantses, how about my statehood idea? How does that fail?
Nonstarter. The flag would need to be redesigned and that would mean changing a pattern that has stood since Jesus won his first dinosaur rodeo. Adding a state = hating America.
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Okay, smarty pantses, how about my statehood idea? How does that fail?
Reporting on current news stories pretty much isn't a major push for anything, let alone statehood. Who would be making this push for statehood and how would reporting on the Super Tuesday voting be a part of that?

Residents of American Samoa are nationals but not actually citizens of the United States, although this is in the courts currently. Statehood is a long way off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...oa#Nationality
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Um, besides that.

Okay, smarty pantses, how about my statehood idea? How does that fail?
Wyoming, the least populous state, has about 579,000 people. American Samoa has a population of fewer than 56,000 (less than one tenth of Wyoming), but as a state would still get a member of the U.S. House of Representatives and two Senators.
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Reporting on current news stories pretty much isn't a major push for anything, let alone statehood. Who would be making this push for statehood...
Besides me? Maybe others, but I'm most concerned with what I think. But maybe not selective enough about reporting whatever idiotic idea I come up with at 3am.
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Um, besides that.

Okay, smarty pantses, how about my statehood idea? How does that fail?
On deaf ears. Except for PR, the territories lack the population to justify having two Senators.
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