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I had an idea for a mask and was checking redbubble to see if it was already done.

Searching "constitution" on redbubble is depressing. Including the mask that said "this is what tyranny looks like"
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Saw some guys today riding motorcycles. They were wearing their Covid masks... but no helmets.

We humans are really, really bad at this risk assessment thing.
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My wife has been doing telemedicine as well, and she had one guy with no shirt (note, his complaint was not a rash or anything dermatologic and even if it were you don't do the entire visit half naked), and she had one guy just crack open a beer in the middle of the visit. I think a good rule of thumb is that if you wouldn't do it at the doctor's office, please don't think it's okay via telemedicine.
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Old 05-07-2020, 10:36 PM
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Risked being dismissed from one of my part time jobs by complaining about the latest antivaxxer tool that also launches harebrained accusations against Dr Fauci.

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It’s the latest coronavirus-related topic that has sent the Internet into a divided rage.

The film features Dr. Judy Mikovits, and in it, she is identified as a molecular biologist and medical researcher. Multiple media reports have also described her as an anti-vaccination advocate, but she says in the film that she is not one,
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According to Snopes, Mikovits claims that Fauci, who currently is part of the White House Coronavirus Task Force and continues to be the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, once threatened her with arrest if she visited the National Institutes of Health to participate in a study to validate her chronic fatigue research. Fauci denies ever saying such a thing, as he told Snopes:

“I have no idea what she is talking about. I can categorically state that I have never sent such an e-mail to Dr. Ruscetti. I had my IT people here at NIH search all my e-mails and no such e-mail exists. Having said that, I would never make such a statement in an e-mail that anyone “would be immediately arrested” if they stepped foot on NIH property.”
That propaganda piece was so bad even YouTube removed it, not before catching many unawares in the wild and in my workplace. Why it is that they do not think about upsetting a captive audience in an open office with their cellphones at full audio, and they end up complaining to the person that knows already about the poison being served and just wants to continue doing his job?

Anyhow, the "friends" of management that came wanted to discredit Dr Fauci so as to help President Trump "see the light"
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Wasn’t sure what thread this should be in. I was watching a news show about opening up the beaches and they were making the point that while distancing can work on the beach, the real problem is the restrooms. Now this is a good point in that social distancing is more difficult in public restrooms. However, we are talking about the beach here. I can’t be the only one who thinks “just pee in the ocean”? Don’t worry, I am not a beach person so your oceans are safe. You will only be dealing with fish pee.
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Take a look at reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/ for some covidiot experience.
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Old 05-20-2020, 05:24 AM
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What's the deal with people driving, alone and masked?
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:52 AM
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What's the deal with people driving, alone and masked?
They're driving from one store to another, and they don't want to take off their mask in between? It's probably not that bad an idea
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They're driving from one store to another, and they don't want to take off their mask in between? It's probably not that bad an idea
Once you put your mask on, you really shouldn't be taking it off until you are back home and have a chance to sterilize/wash it. If you do have covid, then it will quickly accumulate the virus on the outside of the mask. (This is why the advice for so long was not to bother with them as when they sampled the outside of the mask, they were able to grow the virus in petri dishes.) Every doff and don after you've been breathing through it increases the likelihood that you will get the virus on your hands and spread it to anything you touch.
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I’m on the board of my HOA and we need to meet to decide what to do about the pools. I’m going to recommend closing them for this season. I think it’s actually a little bit of a silver lining, as we need major repairs and wouldn’t be able to open for the full summer anyway. Now we have a good excuse.

I’m also going to recommend that we give each homeowner a small rebate against their HOA fees since we won’t have the pool. Especially since I found out that our HOA is really good with budgeting and has a reserve fund of several years worth of dues.

We were supposed to have a phone or video meeting today, the details weren’t ironed out. Because one member says that phone meetings aren’t “convenient“ for him and he wants to know why we can’t just meet at the clubhouse.

WTF? It is a small group but still.........how in the f can a phone meeting be LESS convenient than an in person meeting? I’m tempted to tell the guy to go to the clubhouse and we’ll all call him while he’s there.

It also makes me think that the 2020 pool closure, which was a no-brained to me, may meet with some opposition.

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Take a look at reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/ for some covidiot experience.

Yowee! Damn near every one of the moron anti-vaxxers posting in that thing started out denying they're anti-vaxxers. That display of an incredible lack of familiarity with even the most basic bit of science taught in elementary school made me shudder.

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Yowee! Damn near every one of the moron anti-vaxxers posting in that thing started out denying they're anti-vaxxers. That display of an incredible lack of familiarity with even the most basic bit of science taught in elementary school made me shudder.
If you say anything along those lines, they will call you a coronadoomer and your comment will get downvoted to -60 points.
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That's a badge of honor, according to that crowd, isn't it?
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We were supposed to have a phone or video meeting today, the details weren’t ironed out. Because one member says that phone meetings aren’t “convenient“ for him and he wants to know why we can’t just meet at the clubhouse.
Ignore him. All you need is a quorum. We've been meeting via WebEx since March. Tuesday will be our third Webex meeting.

How to conduct our required, annual meeting is tricky, though. It looks like we're going to miss it.
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WTF? It is a small group but still.........how in the f can a phone meeting be LESS convenient than an in person meeting? I’m tempted to tell the guy to go to the clubhouse and we’ll all call him while he’s there.
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I don't think anyone mentioned in this thread the story of this unnamed guy, who refused to wear a mask in Costco, "because [he] woke up in a free country". The Costco employee who confronted him took the customer's cart away and told him that he was not welcome in the store.
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I got this email from a distant relative of my late mother's yesterday. He is a card-carrying trumpanista and was a Hillary hater from the get-go ("You libruls believe the sun shines out of her ass!" ) We're not in touch much and when we are, the conversation can't go anywhere near politics. However, the content of this email was completely over the top and blew my mind. Those of you who have friends/relatives in this camp will no doubt recognize the themes. (All misspellings and formatting are his.)

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I'm getting (more) depressed over this lockdown by the day!

I think it has just become a political tool, and our rights and our country are being destroyed.

I don't see how the economy can recover.
So many businesses will never be able to reopen.

The favorite family-run restaurant that I used to go to, can't afford to reopen, after having been there for 49 years.

I feel like there is no incentive to get up and get dressed for the day.

Criminals are being set free from prisons! ..and continue criminal activity !?

This insanity knows no bounds...
It makes no sense!

https://www.10news.com/news/coronavi...ro-bail-policy

I tried to go grocery shopping Sunday and there were around 40 people lined up with carts outside waiting to be 'allowed' in one entrance, as someone else came out the other exit.

Monday I drove over to Home Depot, and it looked like a hundred people standing in line, down the length of the building, waiting to be 'allowed' in!

Tried to take a walk at the park with a friend and his two dogs, but found that we were only "allowed" to walk outside the park, along the Sixth Avenue side!

The beautiful Prado Bridge entrance to Balboa Park was barricaded and taped off, with a large flashing sign, and security guards as well!

What is the difference of walking on the 6th Avenue side, vs walking on the road through the park?

All the museums are closed, so you can still 'wear your mask' and just as easily keep your 'required' distance.

I can't comprehend the reasoning behind some of the arbitrary inequatable rules being imposed, other than for political manipulation of society.

Some politicians go scott-free after proven corruptions, while others have themselves and their families persecuted unjustly to shut them up from exposing the real corrupt politicians.

Illegals are being given housing and subsidies. Unemployed are being given more money and handouts than when they were working!

When did the word "illegal" loose its meaning???

Where will be the incentive to go back to work as this continues and gets extended over and over again for months?

A dependant population is a controlled population, ...bought and paid for!

The media is controlled today by only six conglomerates that are dictating their Scripted Socialist Agenda.

I hope there is a backlash to all of this. If not, we need a new revolution, or we will loose our freedom and country forever, to a One World Socialist Government.

I don't understand how many people don't see, or want to believe, what is happening around them.
"I don't understand how many people don't see, or want to believe, what is happening around them." Right.

No mention of the disease, the need for safety, the fact that people in his age group (late 60s with multiple health issues) are especially at risk. This rage directed at attempting to keep people safe is waaaay beyond my comprehension. The leap from "I'm depressed over this lockdown" to an accurate description of uneven (and sometimes illogical) application of lockdown rules to Scripted Socialist Agenda and "It's a political tool and our rights are being destroyed" is as wide as the Grand Canyon in my world view. Do people like him believe that the 1.5 million people who have CV are mistaken, lying? What about the 328,000 who have died? Are they not really dead?

"One World Socialist Government"??? Holy fuck.

I'm not going to reply, although I've been dying to ask him one question up until yesterday when I got this rant. Now there's no need to, because I can surmise the answer. The question: "Do you REALLY think Hillary would have been worse?
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Ignore him. All you need is a quorum. We've been meeting via WebEx since March. Tuesday will be our third Webex meeting.

How to conduct our required, annual meeting is tricky, though. It looks like we're going to miss it.
Oh, this HOA thing is such a clusterfuck. One guy reluctantly agreed to a in-person meeting as long as everyone wore masks, because he’s high risk. Then Mr. Phone Meetings Are Too Inconvenient announced rather aggressively that he didn’t have a mask. I offered to bring extras, we’ll see how this goes down.

There’s no way we can open the pools. Frankly, I’m not particularly concerned about the COVID risk - I’m more concerned about homeowners getting into confrontations over social distancing and other rules ( new rules setting time limits and limiting guests and children).

If 7 people can’t work out the rules without confrontation there’s no way to make the rules work for an HOA as large as ours, which covers about 350 single family homes and 500 rental apartments.

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I was doing curbside pick-up at a liquor store the other day and a mom, dad, and three school-age boys walked in, holding but not wearing masks.
Our president just did pretty much the same thing during his visit to that Ford plant. Kept his mask in a pocket.
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This is from a Reddit thread. This happened in Canada.
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This is from a Reddit thread. This happened in Canada...
I'm not at all surprised. This is why the idea of "immunity passports" (prior to a vaccine) is absolutely unworkable. If they introduce immunity passports, what this "crazy person" did starts to look perfectly sensible. If an immunity passport allows you to get back to a much more normal life when everyone else can't, and your chance of dying yourself is small, many people would think it worth the risk to deliberately infect themselves. And, of course, any efforts to then self quarantine while they are infectious would not work perfectly, and there would be a spike in unintended infections too.

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The school I teach at had a "drive through graduation parade" A bunch of teachers stood around with signs so kids and parents could drive through real slow and everyone could wave and see each other. A super-safe way to honor the gradates and give them at least a little bit of a ceremony.

After they drove through the "parade route" they apparently all parked and jumped out of the car to hug each other and take pictures. Which I understand in a lot of ways---months ago they were abruptly cut off from each other--but lord, it sort of undid the whole point of everything we've given up.
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I'm not at all surprised. This is why the idea of "immunity passports" (prior to a vaccine) is absolutely unworkable. If they introduce immunity passports, what this "crazy person" did starts to look perfectly sensible. If an immunity passport allows you to get back to a much more normal life when everyone else can't, and your chance of dying yourself is small, many people would think it worth the risk to deliberately infect themselves. And, of course, any efforts to then self quarantine while they are infectious would not work perfectly, and there would be a spike in unintended infections too.
If you read that Reddit thread, it's mentioned that the neighbor woman has a small child, so she's risking exposing her child to it.
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After they drove through the "parade route" they apparently all parked and jumped out of the car to hug each other and take pictures. Which I understand in a lot of ways---months ago they were abruptly cut off from each other--but lord, it sort of undid the whole point of everything we've given up.
That's hilarious.
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If 7 people can’t work out the rules without confrontation there’s no way to make the rules work for an HOA as large as ours, which covers about 350 single family homes and 500 rental apartments.
That's hilarious. There are nine of us, and the reason we use Webex is because we're almost completely affiliated with the same employer, who uses it as our remote meeting platform of choice. Working for the same employer also means that we're highly engineering-oriented (we're problem solvers), and share a lot of ideology (don't be a crappy HOA). The downside is we all work full time, so progress can kind of be slow. Given that Commons maintenance and snow plowing eats about half of our $95 per year dues for 376 homes, financial constraints make things kind of slow, too. But at least we all get along!
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If you read that Reddit thread, it's mentioned that the neighbor woman has a small child, so she's risking exposing her child to it.
Yes, this is unquestionably dangerous and selfish even if you live alone and try to isolate yourself, because you can't know exactly how long you're infectious for, you can't possibly be certain you're only risking your own health - you might need to be hospitalized. But immunity passports (without vaccination) would create a much stronger rationale for deliberate self-infection, would encourage reckless behavior on a widespread scale.

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The question was posed bluntly to the nearly 100,000 members of a Facebook group devoted to ending Pennsylvania’s stay-at-home orders, with a user writing, “if there was a vaccine for coronavirus would you be likely to take it.”

“Absolutely not.”

“No.”

“Never.”

The resoundingly negative answers streamed forth, generating 1,700 comments and providing a window into brewing resistance to a potential coronavirus vaccine that experts say offers the surest path back to normal life.

Some of the same online activists who have clamored to resume economic activity, echoing President Trump’s call to “liberate” their states from sweeping restrictions, are now aligning themselves with a cause on the political fringe — preemptively forswearing a vaccine. To further their baseless claims about the dangers of vaccines and to portray the scientific process as reckless, they have seized on the brisk pace promised for the project, which the Trump administration has branded “Operation Warp Speed.”
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The views, though they reflect an extreme position, are a sign of looming obstacles to public trust for the Trump administration and governments around the world rushing to complete a process in a matter of months that typically takes years. In a Yahoo News-YouGov poll this month, nearly 1 in 5 Americans said they would not take a coronavirus vaccine.

The online activity illustrates how anti-vaccine stalwarts have found common cause with those protesting stay-at-home measures, flocking to their demonstrations and staging their own. The two movements are also drawing on a common online organizing infrastructure, increasingly merging in the fluid corners of Facebook.
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More covidiocy...
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Well, this is a case of a wrong movement gaining a sheer/veneer of rightness to it. If the Covid vaccine is rushed, then indeed it could be more hazardous than a normal, well-vetted vaccine such as the season flu shot.

The benefits of the Covid vaccine still outweigh the risks, of course, but now they suddenly have something scientifically legit they can tout.
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I used to be contrarian, before it became so mainstream. Now I'm one of the few conformists.
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I'm involved in a niche sport with a couple of different subfields (amateur strongman generally and grip sport specifically). The problem with grip guys is that there are literally dozens of us, so the few who are able to make money at it are still working the struggle. Strongman in general also breeds people who (sort of like homebrewers dream of opening a brewpub) start their own gyms and operate on razor-thin margins.

It seems to me that a lot of these guys - guys in New Jersey and Pennsylvania whose gyms and coaching revenues have been shut off by stay-at-home orders - form their scientific opinions based entirely on their pocketbooks. One guy who is exceedingly strong and a very nice guy has been sharing Plandemic nonsense, complaining about the "reversal" on whether masks are helpful, and promoting an alkaline diet to kill off the virus. He's a really nice guy and runs a great competition but he isn't a scientist or doctor, just a talented personal trainer.

Another friend of mine runs a strongman-focused gym in New Jersey and has been doing stuff like mailing his bills to the governor. He, too, believes the virus is no big deal (in fact, he was tested for antibodies because he felt run down for a few days and was pretty sure the cold he had was COVID-19) and is screaming that closing the gyms was unconstitutional. Again, nice guy but his opinions are based entirely on his revenue stream.

My wife had the virus in March and we had a couple of very scary weeks. She was never hospitalized, thank goodness, but she probably should have been. She's mostly recovered but her heart and lungs are still showing some effects.
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Ace309's post reminded of a Facebook video I saw of a woman who tried opening up her restaurant/bar and was complaining the police shut her down. She was denying that the virus was not that serious and she wouldn't make her staff wear masks.

The whole time I am thinking I would never eat at a restaurant this woman runs. If she doesn't take Covid seriously how can I trust her that she take Salmonella, E. Coli, etc. safely? Why the hell would I want her cooking food for me? It's a red flag to me that she doesn't take food safety seriously. I am wrong in thinking this?
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Ace309's post reminded of a Facebook video I saw of a woman who tried opening up her restaurant/bar and was complaining the police shut her down. She was denying that the virus was not that serious and she wouldn't make her staff wear masks.

The whole time I am thinking I would never eat at a restaurant this woman runs. If she doesn't take Covid seriously how can I trust her that she take Salmonella, E. Coli, etc. safely? Why the hell would I want her cooking food for me? It's a red flag to me that she doesn't take food safety seriously. I am wrong in thinking this?
I'd tend to agree.
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NC went to "Phase 2" yesterday, which means easing up on some of the restrictions; restaurants are allowed to have dining in with limited seating, hair salons are allowed to open with employees wearing masks and all equipment thoroughly cleaned between customers, etc. However, social distancing and wearing of masks are still required in stores. So of course when I was shopping this morning there were two guys shopping together while not wearing masks, making no effort to keep from blocking aisles and paying no attention to the glares from other customers.
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So of course when I was shopping this morning there were two guys shopping together while not wearing masks, making no effort to keep from blocking aisles and paying no attention to the glares from other customers.
I like how things work around here. Stores have someone watching specifically for masks as people enter. No mask, no entry. Argue and the police are called.
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Two hair stylists at a Great Clips in Missouri worked while symptomatic and both tested positive for coronavirus. They potentially infected up to 140 people.

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Un fuckin believable. This is why I will not be getting a haircut any time this year. If you feel sick, stay home, people.
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Two hair stylists at a Great Clips in Missouri worked while symptomatic and both tested positive for coronavirus. They potentially infected up to 140 people.

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Un fuckin believable. This is why I will not be getting a haircut any time this year. If you feel sick, stay home, people.
They "worked while symptomatic" means they were coughing, right? If I were in a building right now, masked, and someone cleared their throat I'd likely head for the door.

Someone sat there while their hair stylist repeatedly coughed?
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My brother-in-law. Just at the start of the pandemic, my sister was diagnosed with cancer. Needed immediate chemotherapy, and is looking at the possibility of amputation for her leg. My sister is confined to home, no visitors. She doesn't drive and has been falling recently (weakness from chemo, maybe). Her husband keeps talking about inviting people to come live there, going for a couple weeks to visit a friend, going for the better part of a week to visit multiple relatives, etc. Planning to leave her home alone (no way to get out if she had to), then bringing back God knows what germs. He's sure COVID is some big conspiracy, and things really aren't that bad. And just because she has NO FREAKIN' IMMUNE SYSTEM doesn't mean he shouldn't be getting out and about. For the record, he's a lung cancer survivor with half a lung removed. One of my other sisters is inviting that sister to come stay with her and seek treatment from Mayo in AZ, since her cancer is very rare in adults. (Rhabdomyosarcoma)

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They "worked while symptomatic" means they were coughing, right? If I were in a building right now, masked, and someone cleared their throat I'd likely head for the door.

Someone sat there while their hair stylist repeatedly coughed?
While coughing is a very common symptom, not everyone with symptoms of COVID-19 has that particular one. Fever, chills, muscle pain and weakness, headache, and even diarrhea may be the only or primary symptoms, and they are far less obvious then coughing.
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They "worked while symptomatic" means they were coughing, right? If I were in a building right now, masked, and someone cleared their throat I'd likely head for the door.

Someone sat there while their hair stylist repeatedly coughed?
I tend to agree that seems odd. Perhaps they had enough symptoms to know they could be positive, but pretty mild - not actively coughing. If you're getting close enough to people to cut their hair and you're shedding virus, I doubt that you need to be coughing to infect them.
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While coughing is a very common symptom, not everyone with symptoms of COVID-19 has that particular one. Fever, chills, muscle pain and weakness, headache, and even diarrhea may be the only or primary symptoms, and they are far less obvious then coughing.
And this is why "stay home if you are sick" is not realistic advice. Headache? Mild runs? Being tired? Touch of a sore throat? I'd miss so much work. My students would miss so much school. Should people with hayfever just stay in for weeks? And those sorts of symptoms are so easily psychosomatic. If everyone is hyper paranoid about being sick, more of us will have those symptoms.

You just can't keep everyone home if they are even slightly sick with basically any symptom of anything. I mean, maybe you can, but it will be about as disruptive as our current system.
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My brother-in-law. ...<snip>...One of my other sisters is inviting that sister to come stay with her and seek treatment from Mayo in AZ, since her cancer is very rare in adults. (Rhabdomyosarcoma)

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Oh dear, what a terrible situation. I hope your sis can go to the Mayo Clinic. Fingers crossed.
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Oh dear, what a terrible situation. I hope your sis can go to the Mayo Clinic. Fingers crossed.
Right now she's being treated by Vanderbilt, which is a top cancer treatment center, but it's so very rare a cancer, I'd like her at least to consult with mayo to see how many of these they've treated.

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Right now she's being treated by Vanderbilt, which is a top cancer treatment center, but it's so very rare a cancer, I'd like her at least to consult with mayo to see how many of these they've treated.

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Sounds like getting away from your BIL might be good for her health, too... Just sayin'
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Sounds like getting away from your BIL might be good for her health, too... Just sayin'
Totally agree. Then he can gallivant as much as he wants.

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My friend in Oklahoma was in a store there yesterday, and the only one in the whole place wearing a mask. A man came up to her, grabbed her arm, and demanded to know why she was wearing a mask because "You don't need one." She was too shocked and taken aback to answer. Apparently wearing a mask makes you suspect as a liberal there--ironic, because she's conservative (but hates Trump).

About 90% of the people at the grocery store today were wearing masks, as is usual here now. I was putting mine on in the parking lot when a (maskless) woman walking shook her head and scoffed. I called out, "Just being a good American, protecting my fellow Americans!" I doubt it changed her views.
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I just had someone walk into my business with a mask around their neck. She tried to argue that the state requires you to wear a mask but doesn't specify how you wear it. I told her to GTFO. She said she was claustrophobic and couldn't wear a mask. I told her I would call the police if she didn't put her mask on or leave. She left.

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My friend in Oklahoma was in a store there yesterday, and the only one in the whole place wearing a mask. A man came up to her, grabbed her arm, and demanded to know why she was wearing a mask because "You don't need one." She was too shocked and taken aback to answer. Apparently wearing a mask makes you suspect as a liberal there--ironic, because she's conservative (but hates Trump).

I wonder how an arrest would have changed that guy's views on the matter.
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I wonder how an arrest would have changed that guy's views on the matter.
I was thinking the same. That's assault.
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My friend in Oklahoma was in a store there yesterday, and the only one in the whole place wearing a mask. A man came up to her, grabbed her arm, and demanded to know why she was wearing a mask because "You don't need one." She was too shocked and taken aback to answer. Apparently wearing a mask makes you suspect as a liberal there--ironic, because she's conservative (but hates Trump).

About 90% of the people at the grocery store today were wearing masks, as is usual here now. I was putting mine on in the parking lot when a (maskless) woman walking shook her head and scoffed. I called out, "Just being a good American, protecting my fellow Americans!" I doubt it changed her views.
Polarization. Some guy on the street the other day growled at me to get a mask, outdoors, plenty of room (and he could have made it more room by stepping off the curb if worried, I was at the inside edge of the sidewalk). NJ not OK. He was being a dick IMO (who I ignored which is my standard). At least a large minority of people here don't wear them *outside*, they might not be good for you exercising hard unless pretty loose, and there's no real evidence it helps anyone else, *outside*, if keeping your distance. I carry one with me in case I go in a store, where are 3 important, related, differences IMO:
a) it's required by state order here indoors, it's only 'recommended' locally outside.
b) because there's some more reason to think it makes any difference indoors and therefore for both reasons
b) other customers and store staff would be more justified to feel uncomfortable if I didn't than outside where they can just walk further away from me if they think there's any real risk.

But it is a matter of degree, differences in risk which could be quite small in some cases so comes down to judgement calls, then people's socio-political biases take over ('you look like you're one of those libruls, Fox News watchers etc.')

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