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I'd like to see all my favorite Harry Hausen films with the animation upgraded with blur motion.
I'm going to assume you mean Ray Harryhausen, and hope nobody ever does anything of the sort.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:11 AM
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I'm going to assume you mean Ray Harryhausen, and hope nobody ever does anything of the sort.
I woke up in the middle of the night last night and said "did I really do that?"
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Dracula has appeared in my head. Guess that means there's not any Dracula fiction in the real world, just what's in my head, right?
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:59 AM
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We watched a season 1 episode of The Simpsons the other night: Homer's Night Out. The one where Bart takes a picture of Homer dancing with Princess Jasmine.

Egad. How antiquated. First, Bart orders a "spy" camera. One with film. He takes pictures of various things including the infamous Homer and Jasmine one.

He temporarily joins the school photography club so he can get it developed. The picture gets copied and handed around. (Most using a photocopier, which doesn't work for this, btw.) It ends up being posted on bulletin boards and such.

Wow, just wow.

Today: Bart would use his smartphone, post it online, people would email/tweet/etc. it to friends. It'd be on the Internet not a bulletin board. Etc.

(Plus it would be considered too tame and actually be of little interest. Image what kind of photos Bart would be sharing with his friends today.)

This is how long The Simpsons have been on the air. A complete changeover of technology.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:20 PM
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We watched a season 1 episode of The Simpsons the other night: Homer's Night Out. The one where Bart takes a picture of Homer dancing with Princess Jasmine.

Egad. How antiquated. First, Bart orders a "spy" camera. One with film. He takes pictures of various things including the infamous Homer and Jasmine one.

He temporarily joins the school photography club so he can get it developed. The picture gets copied and handed around. (Most using a photocopier, which doesn't work for this, btw.) It ends up being posted on bulletin boards and such.

Wow, just wow.

Today: Bart would use his smartphone, post it online, people would email/tweet/etc. it to friends. It'd be on the Internet not a bulletin board. Etc.

(Plus it would be considered too tame and actually be of little interest. Image what kind of photos Bart would be sharing with his friends today.)

This is how long The Simpsons have been on the air. A complete changeover of technology.
Hmmm is Simpsons actually in that kid's head? I can't remember if Simpsons is tied to St. Elsewhere.
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:39 PM
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This is a kids show, but Nickelodeons The Rugrats has some pretty dated stuff in it. The computer the parents have, the game system Angelica has in one episode, the size of Charlottes cell phone.
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Old 12-24-2016, 09:48 AM
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I remember an episode of Room 222 that I only saw twice. The students were ragging on an effeminate boy they thought was "queer." The teachers and principal got together and had this dialog:

Principal: Are we dealing with one or two problems here?
Teacher: What do you mean?
Principal: Is the boy a homosexual?

When I saw this episode years later in syndication, that scene was cut.
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Old 12-28-2016, 04:27 PM
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Another thread reminded me of Chasing Amy recently. And the scene at the train station where Banky and Holden are going to go to a Con.

Banky has a bag full of porn mags. Now it would be just a cell phone full of it. Maybe a couple extra microSD cards. Not nearly as good for the visuals.

Holden is paged on a beeper by Alyssa. That's right, paged. He then goes over to a pay phone to call her. Again, it'd be all cell phones now.

Most of that scene would be quite different if done today.

Lesbians were so edgy back in 1997!
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Old 12-28-2016, 04:42 PM
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Hmmm is Simpsons actually in that kid's head? I can't remember if Simpsons is tied to St. Elsewhere.
According to this chart, pretty much everything is in that damn kid's head:
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According to this chart, pretty much everything is in that damn kid's head:
I know! Maybe even the entire real world.
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Early episodes of recent hit shows; first season episodes of "Friends", "Seinfeld" and others showcasing early 90s hairstyles and clothes (a little too close to the 80s for my tastes).

The 80s were fucking awesome. I wish all the girls fashions of the 80s would come back. The hair, the clothes, the makeup...nothing hotter than an 80s chick and if you don't think so, you're a dope.
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:04 AM
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The 90s gave us both a Senfeld episode and a Simpsons episode where the characters get an illegal cable hook up.

Its quite interesting just how worried and guilty the characters feel about stealing tv. I mean, watching tv without paying for it? The nerve! I'm sure glad that never took off...
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The 80s were such an awesome time, the 90s just cant compare. Every decade since then has sucked hard.

As I get older and older I keep waiting for an awesome decade like the 80s to come along. Maybe it will before I run out of decades I'm alive for, but I'm starting to doubt it. Oh well, only 2 more years before the next decade starts. Maybe...!

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This thread reminded me of an episode of Dragnet ("The Kidnapping", Season 1, Episode 3) where a cosmetics entrepreneur named Adele Vincent had been kidnapped. A woman who worked for Vincent had come to the police to report the crime. In setting up the rescue operation, Friday and Gannon were getting descriptions of Miss Vincent and the man who'd kidnapped her.

I (correctly) remembered the woman describing Miss Vincent as "lovely, ...." I had thought this was a sign of the sexism of the times.

But when I went back to view the episode, I learned that the woman also included in her detailed description of the kidnapper's looks and clothing that he was "not bad looking".

Maybe it's not just sexism that people's hotness was included in their descriptions. Maybe it was also a reflection of the fact that TV in that era was a mostly white world? And that with a more uniform standard of beauty in place, it made practical sense for police to note how attractive someone was in describing them?

Either way, it seems very dated.

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Old 08-24-2018, 06:20 AM
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You got a lot of Moxie to be jumping on this guy like he's a Trampoline. Did someone put Vaseline in your Cornflakes or Heroin in your Granola?
Heroin isn't a brand name...(neither is granola).

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Old 08-24-2018, 09:50 AM
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Heroin isn't a brand name...(neither is granola).
It was


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Heroin (diacetylmorphine), now illegal as an addictive drug, was trademarked and marketed by Bayer as a cough suppressant and non-addictive substitute for morphine from 1898 to 1910.[19] Bayer scientists were not the first to make heroin, but their scientists discovered ways to make it, and Bayer led commercialization of heroin.[20] Heroin was a Bayer trademark until after World War I.[21]
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:28 PM
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:58 AM
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We are currently watching an episode a night of Mad About You. The one last night was based on Jaimie and Paul using some non-refundable tickets Paul's father bought. So they had to pretend to be Burt and Sylvania Buchman. The starting point was at the airport.

The airport. They were using someone else's tickets to get on a plane. How does that work? Doesn't the TSA check these things?

Really takes you out of the show for a bit.

Also, the resort they went to had no phones or TV. But I bet they had WiFi or no one would go there.
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We are currently watching an episode a night of Mad About You. The one last night was based on Jaimie and Paul using some non-refundable tickets Paul's father bought. So they had to pretend to be Burt and Sylvania Buchman. The starting point was at the airport.

The airport. They were using someone else's tickets to get on a plane. How does that work? Doesn't the TSA check these things?

Really takes you out of the show for a bit.

Also, the resort they went to had no phones or TV. But I bet they had WiFi or no one would go there.
People watch Mad About You? By choice??

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I envision a world a hundred years from now, civilization has collapsed--the sporadic survivors are mostly Thunderdoming each other, but a few wisps of the old Web remain, almost entirely forgotten. Then, one day, Alfishius makes his next reply to this thread (probably a "lol".)
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Alfishius, do you ever make any post without waiting at least three weeks, first?
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In 2011, audiences will rent old DVDs
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Even this thread is dated!
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My Dad was a doctor and a fairly senior staff member (basically someone like Dr. Westphall or Dr. Auschlander from "Elsewhere") and even during the original run of the series, he would be gnashing his teeth, grimacing, and sometimes even groaning and guffawing out loud at the mispronounced medical jargon, the ridiculous "life or death" drama over what were routine medical procedures, and just what he viewed as the contrived and inept portrayal of what actual hospitals are like.
I think it was the first episode of St Elsewhere where in the first five minutes someone was performing CPR incorrectly. Wife was medical and was incensed they would show it because viewers might try it and people would die. Medical dramas were off the menu until House.

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Not surprising. I've worked with abacuses too (until recently, they were ubiquitous in Russia), and I know they're really fast!

I don't think that was quite what Chin's line was intended to convey, though.
I thought Chin meant, "I'll show you my fucking abacus, Roundeyes."
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Honestly, I think anything that wouldn't appear "dated" if you were doing it as a modern period piece shouldn't count. Not having cell phones is not "dated", it would an anachronism.
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I hope to god this whole thread is one big whoosh. Seriously, all those movies set in the Roman empire are stupid. Why use those chariots when they could use a hemi-engined SUV? Get places much faster. And those dumb doctors in the 1880's, sitting around watching people die of tuberculosis. Give the poor schmucks some antibiotics already....

It seems like nearly everyone in this thread can't bear to watch anything set in the past because duh we have better technology and different social views.
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I think you've missed the point. It's just a look at films and TV shows that were ostensibly modern when they were made but now are amusingly relics of their time.
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I've posted this one elsewhere, but why not: the "let's all learn how to use a fax machine" scene in Die Hard 2. Pretty silly by today's standards. Plus, a fax machine isn't the greatest way to send an image of a fingerprint, and a 1990s fax machine would probably just turn it into a smudge. If you have a really clear print, it'll work, but it'll have scan lines; even an amateur can spot a faxed print.
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Alfishius, do you ever make any post without waiting at least three weeks, first?
I don't think so...
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Almost any early CGI, especially on TV. Babylon 5 is a great example. Wonderful stories, but oh-so-terrible graphics by today's standards. While watching, you feel like you're playing a late 90's video game.
Yeah, I doubt there's any financial incentive to re-CGI it. The CGI at the beginning and end of "Labyrinth" likewise looks terrible (not to mention Bowie's tights).

Funnily enough, B5 deliberately put a dated reference into the show. The bar had a prominent "ZIMA" sign, which IIRC JMS stuck in as a joke, knowing full well that Zima was in no way going to be the drink of the future.

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The 80s were fucking awesome. I wish all the girls fashions of the 80s would come back. The hair, the clothes, the makeup...nothing hotter than an 80s chick and if you don't think so, you're a dope.
I remember the 80's, and if you think shoulder pads and puffball skirts are "hot", well...it's debatable which one of us is a "dope".

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I'd like to see all my favorite Harry Hausen films with the animation upgraded with blur motion.
Harryhausen was well aware of the "strobing" effect his animation had, and thought it was an acceptable part of the experience. I wouldn't like to see it blurred out, either.

For what it's worth, people have been blurring away the animation strobing well before there was "full" CGI. In the 1920s animator Ladisls Starevich moved his model during film exposure. Animator Jim Danforth used a movement mechanism to move wings and such on his animation models so that they would photograph as a blur*. In the 1980s Phil Tippett at Industrial Light and Magic came up with his own version -- "Go Motion" -- that was used in several films, like Dragonslayer. Since the early 1990s it's been easier to simply use CGI to cause blurring.





*The Wikipedia article on Go-Motion claims that Danforth used a petroleum-jelly method to create the blur, but contemporary sources said that he actually moved the winds during exposure.
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There have been cases of people updating the effects in some old movies. Long before George Lucas released his "special edition" of the original Star Wars movies, people were re-shooting the special effects scenes for the 1950 movie Rocketsjip X-M ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocketship_X-M )

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with them re-doing the effects from the Hunt for Red October, which I thought looked hopelessly cartoony when the film was first released, and which look terrible now. I similarly wouldn't mind if they redid the CGI for The Last Starfighter, an excellent film overall. but whose CGI wasn't quite up to the task set for it.
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There have been cases of people updating the effects in some old movies. Long before George Lucas released his "special edition" of the original Star Wars movies, people were re-shooting the special effects scenes for the 1950 movie Rocketsjip X-M ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocketship_X-M )

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with them re-doing the effects from the Hunt for Red October, which I thought looked hopelessly cartoony when the film was first released, and which look terrible now. I similarly wouldn't mind if they redid the CGI for The Last Starfighter, an excellent film overall. but whose CGI wasn't quite up to the task set for it.

I forget--did ny of the SW special editions update the original "hologram" of the Death Star that had the gunhole* centered on the equator?





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Fashion is different. In 2011, audiences will rent old DVDs from the turn of the century and laugh their heads off to see guys wearing shorts and cutoff jeans and swim trunks where the legs go nearly down to their knees. No one would be caught dead in anything so old-fashioned in 2011, except maybe Grandpa. And don't even get me started on those baggy-ass jeans!
And in 2019 grown men will be wearing "shorts" that go below their knees. And not be embarrassed.

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It was a punchline back then because the idea that a young woman would have a tattoo seemed crazy back in 1975.
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