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Old 06-16-2006, 02:14 PM
Biffy the Elephant Shrew Biffy the Elephant Shrew is offline
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Russian speaking Dopers: na zdorovye?

If I were having a drink with a person from Russia, and wished to say the equivalent of "cheers" in Russian, I was under the impression that the correct expression was na zdorovye. There are lots of websites out there that give toasts in assorted languages, and most of them list this one (albeit in a wide variety of English transliterations). But one site I came upon claims that this is "an incredibly widespread myth," and that no one in Russia actually uses na zdorovye this way. Furthermore, it states that there is no generally used Russian toast, although "sometimes" budem zdorovye is used (which seems very close to na zdorovye anyway). So--any Russian speakers out there, is this correct? If so, what do you say?
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:33 PM
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na zdorovye = "to health"

budem zdorovye = "let us be healthy"

NFI how common each is.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:46 PM
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That's the line used in Fiddler On The Roof, when the Russian soldiers join in on the song "To Life". Whether or not it's accurate, that may be the reason it's widespread.
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:10 PM
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I can tell you that in Poland "na zdrowie" is often used as "bless you"-type phrase.
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Old 06-16-2006, 06:03 PM
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I can tell you that in Poland "na zdrowie" is often used as "bless you"-type phrase.
Belvedere Vodka had a pretty heavy ad campaign based on this saying a year or so ago.
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Old 06-16-2006, 07:43 PM
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I've never heard "na zdorovye" used as a toast. To me, it's always been what my grandmother said when I thanked her for dinner.
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:35 PM
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My native-speaking friends say a more common toast would be za vashe zdorovye (meaning literally the same thing).
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:38 PM
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If I were having a drink with a person from Russia, and wished to say the equivalent of "cheers" in Russian, I was under the impression that the correct expression was na zdorovye. There are lots of websites out there that give toasts in assorted languages, and most of them list this one (albeit in a wide variety of English transliterations). But one site I came upon claims that this is "an incredibly widespread myth," and that no one in Russia actually uses na zdorovye this way. Furthermore, it states that there is no generally used Russian toast, although "sometimes" budem zdorovye is used (which seems very close to na zdorovye anyway). So--any Russian speakers out there, is this correct? If so, what do you say?
Vashe zdorovye - to your health
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Old 06-17-2006, 02:21 AM
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za zdorve (sic) - to your health (consumables - drinks, etc)
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Old 06-17-2006, 02:42 AM
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Perhaps one of the Russian speaking SMDBers here that's played Jagged Alliance can tell me what Ivan's saying, too?
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Old 06-17-2006, 02:55 AM
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I lived in Russia and I have heard this as a toast although it is not as universal as cheers. More often, I would hear "to the future."
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Old 06-17-2006, 03:15 AM
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za zdorve (sic) - to your health (consumables - drinks, etc)
za zdorove..
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:21 AM
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In my experience, na zdorovye is used as Crescend's grandmother used it - as a sort of alternative form of "you're welcome", with a sense of "may it do you good". (I've even heard this when bumming cigarettes!)
(Za) vashe zdorovye - the "Za" is often elided - is indeed the default toast. In anything but the most casual, drinking-to-get-drunk situations, though, a more elaborate toast is necessary.
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:03 PM
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So the consensus seems to be that I'd be on safer ground saying za vashe zdorovye. Thanks, folks.
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